There is NO such thing as Clean Coal!

[earth mom]

Obama & Congress better not buy into the lie! :argh:


Coen Brothers Direct New "Clean Coal" Ad (VIDEO)

February 26, 2009 11:08 AM

The Reality Campaign has released a new ad. They're the folks behind the widely-played ad that featured a foreman in a hard hat taking viewers on a tour of a non-existent clean coal facility.

In this new ad, a pitchman gives us the hard sell on a "Clean Coal Clean"-scented air freshener that works just as well as "clean coal."

The ad is directed by the Coen brothers, the team that wrote and directed "The Big Lebowski," "Fargo," "The Hudsucker Proxy" and other great films.

Here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/26/coen-brothers-direct-new_n_170196.html

or Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJVbdiMgfM

[Radical Activist]

1. And we need to stop wasting "clean energy" money on coal scams.

I like Dick Durbin but the FutureScam he keeps pushing is nothing but a wasted subsidy to the coal industry.

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2. You shut down coal fired plants our utility rates will

explode and millions of people will lose their jobs. Real smart move in the middle of the worst recession in the last 70 years. Isn't it bad enough that Obama just submitted a budget that will saddle your grand children with debt beyond belief?

[Occam Bandage]

3. Nobody is suggesting shutting down current coal plants. Nobody. nt

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4. Oh is that right (nobody) I have seen many posts

on DU suggesting that very thing. It looks like the Op thinks so. I see them all the time just like this one the OP doesn't even state where he or she lives, for all we know he or she has never even seen a lump of coal let alone a coal fired electric plan.

[Occam Bandage]

5. Why would you suggest the OP thinks so?

All I see is an argument against investment in "clean coal" technology.

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6. Gee, the OP is against clean coal technology

saying there is no such thing as clean coal and it's a waste of money doesn't it kind give you an idea just maybe the OP is against coal period? Am I supposed to think she or he is just fine with the existing coal plants that they don't need cleaned up just leave them be?

[Occam Bandage]

7. There is no such thing as clean coal, and new "clean coal" plants are a waste of money.

That does not mean that existing coal plants should be torn down with nothing to replace them, nor does it mean that existing coal plants should not have to conform to environmental standards. Your argument doesn't really make any sense to me.

It's like if the OP were something like, "SUVs are not environmentally sound; the government shouldn't buy them as basic transport vehicles," and you were to say, "What, so you think the government should CONFISCATE EVERYONE'S SUV? I mean, it's obvious you hate SUVs."

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10. We have a company that is building a coal liquefaction

plant nearby in the next couple years. It will cost several billion to build and they plan on producing something like 60,000 barrels of diesel a day and they plan to inject CO2 into old gas wells in the area. The technology don't exist? Someone seems to think so and is putting a lot of money into it. It will also produce several hundred good paying permanent jobs and lots of coal mining jobs and all the other jobs in supporting industries. We had another company with plans to do the same but they pulled out because energy prices have dropped, they are still building a plant in China though.

[Mojorabbit]

12. Jobs are very important

right now but not as important ans the climate. There has to be a way to transition as painlessly as possible.I hope some whizkid invents a doohickey that will give us this transition.

[groundloop]

8. Doc

Sorry, but EVERY time in the last 40 or so years there has been any hint of new environmental regulations the big business response has been "It's going to cost jobs." That argument is getting old.

President Obama is right on the money with plans for developing new technology to exploit renewable resources.

And I might add - there is no such thing as clean coal.

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9. I have no problem with developing solar,

wind, gas or clean coal, anything to get us off of Middle East oil. I don't see how anyone could be against investing in clean coal technology but still be supporting the use of coal. I have seen countless posts on DU with people wanting to shut down all the coal plants yesterday and for anyone to say (nobody) suggest that is just dishonest. I don't see any comments from the original OP on how they actually stand on the subject, just a hit and run post. Come on the original OP is against any clean coal research (it's a waste of money) yet thinks existing plants are too dirty and does not want to shut down coal plants, give me a break. To top it off a picture of Al Gore, he doesn't believe in any use of fossil fuels period.

[HughMoran]

11. I worked on separating sulphur from coal back in the mid 80's

Does anybody remember acid rain?

[RB TexLa]

13. The president believes coal from Illinois is clean enough.

[Lost in CT]

14. So clean Nuclear it is.... cause this computer ain't going to electrify itself. nt