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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:21 AM
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Do You Like Motivational Speakers?
Most motivational speakers remind me of Greg Kinnear's character in "Little Miss Sunshine". They always have the same ready made answer that if you don't benefit from their motivation it is because you have a negative attitude.

I was at a trade meeting/luncheon the other day ( I hate the faux bon homie but that's another story) and they had this motivational speaker. She even quoted Rush Limbaugh without attribution- "If there's a recession I'm not participating."


I am not saying speech can't inspire but I do have my doubt about canned motivational speeched done by rote.


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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:24 AM
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1. I've found they're good for a few hours, at least until you've finished taking orders.
But better get those orders before the enthusiasm wears off. The next day is definitely too late.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:28 AM
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3. Some Motivational Speakerss Are Well Intentioned. Some Are Just Hucksters.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:26 AM
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2. NO, and I went to great lengths to avoid them when I could.
I'm retired now and no one cares to motivate me anymore.

mark
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:28 AM
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4. They make me feel motivated
to kick someone's ass.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:30 AM
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5. Depends On Who They Motivate For...
I've seen my share of these speakers whose real motivation is their bottom line or that of the person who hired them to speak. For some, I've seen these tapes and speakers to have some kind of effect...either to educate or get them a pat on the back.

The bottom line is that if you need motivation to do a job, then you picked the wrong job.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:31 AM
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6. No.
and many of them just make shit up too. I have no respect for them.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:34 AM
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7. "Secular 'preachers'."
Edited on Sat Feb-28-09 07:41 AM by Cerridwen
Not so much.

Some speakers are motivational. Others are motivated to make money a la "Elmer Gantry."

I prefer the first. The second have contributed far too much to the spin machine.

edit: stuck "preachers" in quotes.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:36 AM
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9. I Can Listen To A Good Preacher
As long as he or she has a positive message i.e, not attacking other religions or groups of people.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:40 AM
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10. I knew I shoulda put preacher in quotes.
:D

As far as I'm concerned, some of those motivational speakers exploit some "trained response" some people have in accepting "authority figures" as the definers of reality. I was thinking more "Elmer Gantry" as "preacher" than honest to God, men and women who inspire and share their inspiration based on their beliefs.

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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:34 AM
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8. Yes. If their motive is to get people to think ...
before they open their mouths and prove otherwise.

Bon homie, seriously.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:48 AM
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11. A new technique for brainwahsing.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:55 AM
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12. I usually want a shower after sitting thru a session
it all kinda makes me feel dirty; like my time has been abused and my employer was taken for a ride. I hate it when common sense is packaged in a new wrapping and sold as revolutionary.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 08:03 AM
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13. I lack the motivation to attend
Perhaps if one were to visit my home..
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 08:37 AM
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14. The best one isn't around anymore
He's livin' in a van, down by the river.



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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:32 AM
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18. I knew someone would mention Matt Foley
Three times divorced and lives in a van down by the river. Yup.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:29 AM
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15. They make great targets

Choice of weapons.
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:19 AM
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16. I think I've heard them all. Most are hucksters selling tapes and
books.
But there really are a few who tell what they had to do to become successful.And all it really is about is attitude. And that really boils down to is how you react to a negative situation. Not how you appear to react but how you really react. It took me a long while to process that.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:22 AM
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17. Our HR person actually found a right-wing one for a holiday luncheon
I was thinking "whaaaa?" when his right-wing tilt started to emerge during the lecture.

No Thanks!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:41 AM
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19. Not as much as I like root canals or fingernails on a chalkboard.
Hell, visits from the Jehovah's Witnesses are more entertaining.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:47 AM
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20. I've been both a speaker and a listener .......
.... I haven't done either in years.

I sleep better.



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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:50 AM
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21. I would be reluctant to lump them all into one group and pass judgment.
The OP has a touch of that black-and-white, all-or-none thinking that we get from the wingnuts. Some motivational speakers are good, some are bad, some are charlatans. One of the best is Dr. Wayne Dyer, whose books and presentations have had a major positive effect on my life.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 11:47 AM
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23. "The OP has a touch of that black-and-white, all-or-none thinking that we get from the wingnuts."
Are you referring to the the gentleman who wrote " I am not saying speech can't inspire but I do have my doubt about canned motivational speeched done by rote." ?
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:12 PM
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27. I said "a touch".
Asking "Do you like motivational speakers?" seems to call for a yes or no answer.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 11:01 AM
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22. Are you trying to kill another manufacturing job?
even if what most of them manufacture is bullshit.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:24 PM
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24. I get my motivational-speakering from people who don't identify as such
Talk by some random suit with a foo-step plan for Creating A Better Life If You Just Follow These Vaguely Wooey Things That About To Declaring Yourself An Indigo Child? Yeeahno.

On the other hand, I went to a talk by War Child Canada's founder a couple of weeks ago that was largely oriented around taking personal causes and trying to do something more than stew or shout slogans about them. That put thoughts in my head, got me to evaluate parts of my worldview in a useful way.

So yeah, I suppose I like motivational speakers, but I consider the best ones to be the ones who do it incidentally instead of explicitly.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:25 PM
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25. I have no particular bias towards motivational speakers one way or the other
I am biased towards and enjoy good motivational speakers, or any kind of good speaker for that matter.
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seejanespottdick Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:40 PM
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26. I like them, but sometimes the inspiration is like Chinese food...
it fills me up very temporarily.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:14 PM
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28. Pay attention to them, or you'll end up living in a van down by the river.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:16 PM
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29. Only if they live in a van, down by the river eom
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seejanespottdick Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:16 PM
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30. Don't you like Dr. Wayne Dyer?
He's very inspirationish!
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