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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:21 PM
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Electronic cigars and cigarettes-nicotine spray directly into lungs
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A worker assembles electronic cigars at the Ruyan factory in Tianjin, China, Thursday, Feb. 19, 2009. The battery-powered products, which resemble real cigarettes and cigars but produce a fine nicotine spray absorbed quickly and directly by the lungs, are gaining ground in America and Europe, and have even made a dent in China, home to 350 million smokers - the world's biggest tobacco market.
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A worker tests the amber LED lights on electronic cigarettes at the Ruyan factory in Tianjin, China, Thursday, Feb. 19, 2009. The battery-powered products, which resemble real cigarettes but produce a fine nicotine spray absorbed quickly and directly by the lungs

Chinese e-cigs gain ground amid safety concerns
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The Ruyan V8, which produces a nicotine-infused mist absorbed directly into the lungs, is just one of a rapidly growing array of electronic cigarettes attracting attention in China, the U.S. and elsewhere — and the scrutiny of world health officials.

Marketed as a healthier alternative to smoking and a potential way to kick the habit, the smokeless smokes have been distributed in swag bags at the British film awards and hawked at an international trade show.

Because no burning is involved, makers say there's no hazardous cocktail of cancer-causing chemicals and gases like those produced by a regular cigarette. There's no secondhand smoke, so they can be used in places where cigarettes are banned, the makers say.

Health authorities are questioning those claims.

"There is not sufficient evidence that (they) are safe products for human consumption," Timothy O'Leary, a communications officer at the WHO's Tobacco Free Initiative in Geneva, said this week.

Prices range from about $60 to $240. Kits include battery chargers and cartridges that range in flavors (from fruit to menthol) and nicotine levels (from zero — basically a flavored mist — to 16 milligrams, higher than a regular cigarette.) The National Institutes of Health says regular cigarettes contain about 10 milligrams of nicotine.

Smoking Everywhere, a Florida-based company, proclaims it "a much better way to smoke!" while a clip on YouTube features an employee of the NJoy brand promoting its e-cigarettes at CES, the international consumer technology trade show.

Online sales make it even more difficult to regulate the industry, which still falls in a gray area in many countries.

In the U.S., the Food and Drug Administration has "detained and refused" several brands of electronic cigarettes because they were considered unapproved new drugs and could not be legally marketed in the country, said press officer Christopher Kelly.

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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:31 PM
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1. plastic cigarettes
Edited on Sat Feb-28-09 12:55 PM by carlyhippy
looks like they are smoking a flashlight, but if it works, then that is great. No second hand smoke.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:32 PM
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2. The question is... what , exactly, are the hazards of nicotine. .
when it has been divorced from the hazards of burning tobacco (& all the chemicals therein)?

DH has one of these devices and he has gone from 2 packs to 1/2 pack per day.. a change it took one day to accomplish.

There is now no second hand smoke in the house, no stink to the fabrics, no new little burn marks in the linoleum. .
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:34 PM
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4. Sweet....where did he get it?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:37 PM
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5. online
http://www.puresmoker.com/
He has the pocket mini... looks kind of like a Tiparillo.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:37 PM
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6. It cases vasospasm
meaning it causes your arteries to narrow. It's why smokers have cold hands when they're smoking, why their skin ages so much faster than non smoker's skin.

I've taken care of people who have had heart attacks and heart damage from the vasospasm, alone. Their coronary arteries were clean. A blast of nicotine just caused them to clamp shut long enough to cut off blood supply to the heart and damage it.

It's rare, but it happens.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:34 PM
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3. Wow, anything to keep you hooked on nicotine, I guess
The last thing the cigarette companies want to do is lose customers.

Still, anything is better than smoking unless you have cardiovascular disease already. In that case, nicotine in any form can be deadly.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:42 PM
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7. Some studies indicate nicotine may be effective in preventing the onset
of Parkinson's or Alzheimer's. It enhances the release of neurotransmitters which helps with ADD.

I'm sure it has it's downsides too.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:45 PM
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8. The nicotine mist comes in different flavors....
DH seems to like the coconut. (regular grade artificial flavors apparently)
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:01 PM
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11. Sweet!!! Coconut - I might actually be able to transfer my habit to something else!!
Thanks for the links too!!
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:54 PM
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9. Don't think it'll catch on. There's a psychological aspect to smoking: smoke.
Ask a smoker who has smoked in the darkness. It just doesn't satisfy if you don't SEE the smoke from the cig, and that which you exhale.

This from an ex-smoker who quit cold turkey.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:03 PM
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12. There is vapor when you exhale.... looks just like smoke..
You also "drag" on them the same way as on cigs...
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:05 PM
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14. That might change things I guess. I posted without reading. Sorry. n/t
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:57 PM
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10. Considering China's wretched safety problems in the past, you'd be NUTS to buy this
Some manager wanting to squeak a bit more profit from the thing will just dump some other chemicals into the process.

Yeah, trust the Chinese on consumer safety. :rofl:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:04 PM
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13. I looked it up.. There have been some studies in Holland
and somewhere in Scandanavia
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:51 PM
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18. self delete wrong place
Edited on Sat Feb-28-09 01:51 PM by annabanana
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:26 PM
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15. Why not just supply syringes and let the addicts shoot up?
Or would that kill them too quickly?
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 02:00 PM
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21. an injection of nicotine would kill you.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:31 PM
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16. Nah, it's just not the same
without all the people around me crying about second hand smoke. :hi:
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:33 PM
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17. LOL....yup....takes all the fun out of it. eom
:fistbump:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 01:52 PM
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19. Here's an AP article about it:
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 02:00 PM
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20. i'm glad to be free of that demon.
or at least 8 months free. each day puts it a little further in the rearview. good.
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