I Am Getting Real F*cking Tired of Arguing with Conservatives

[Yavin4]

So, the Ted Kennedy video fired me up, and I posted it on a msg board. Of course, the skid-mark stained underwear conservatives jump all over with their typical Sean Hannity talking points: (1) inflation (2) loss of jobs, etc.


And I lost it. I asked them to compare the prices of gas, health care, food, etc from 1997 to now. In my own experience, NYC subway fare went from $1.00 in 1997 to $2.00 today, a 100% increase. Yet the fed min wage has remained the same.

Yet, these idiots start with the poor business man that has to pay their workers more money. I just don't understand that mindset.

[cynatnite]

1. Did you mention that there is a small business tax break in that bill?

I don't blame you. It does get tiring because it's like talking to a brick wall with those people. They can't see beyond the talking points to the people that would benefit.

If all they see is $$$$$$ why can't they admit the economy would be better off and society would be a better place if the quality of life was raised?

I don't get it either, sometimes.

[stonecoldsober]

3. They aren't smart enough to think for themselves

Critical thinking, research, aand independent opinion is unknown to them. Magical thinking is all they have.

[mrcheerful]

2. Well here are some of the posts I get to respond to

Check out MyTriCityjobs.com----lots of jobs if you want to educate yourself instead of living in a rut all the rest of your life !--------The only business that are leaving are the ones that have been forced to by workers who want more and do nothing to earn it !

While one size might not fit all, it's also very true that there are more than enough opportunities out there for people who truly want to advance themselves. You build a convincing straw man. Again, motivation is lacking. Do this... Call Delta College and ask about what opportunities lie in becomming educated. Explain the situation. Talk to a guidance councelor. It's their job to find a path that will work for you. It's not one size fits all... That's why people are paid to find a way for people to advance themselves. Make the call. If they say, "We can do nothing and we can recommend nothing." I will give you the argument. The only thing left for people to do is to actually get off of their fannies and do something about their lives.

It IS their choice to work there and remain in poverty. There are too many opportunities to claim that you are a victim of the system. Time to stop complaining and do something about it. All I see are excuses NOT to do something. Finger pointers tend to point the finger everywhere except where it should be pointed. It should be pointed AT YOURSELF. That's right, YOU are the one who can do something about your life. Enough complaining. Do something about it.

I get nuts trying to figure out where the hell these people live because it sure isn't anywhere on the planet.

[stonecoldsober]

5. That's some sick shit

They have their heads so far up their asses, ... whatever!

[mrcheerful]

7. Tell me about it, one of these posters was put in charge of the blog

and within a month I got a life time ban from the blog. Even though he banned others, they were allowed back but I'm still banned for life. I switched my IPS and got around his ban. I just get tired of this blame the poor blame parents blame welfare posts, then I'm the one finger pointing lol.

[Yavin4]

6. I Have An Undergrad Degree, An MBA, IT Certifications

and I am still taking classes at night, and I have absolutely NO JOB SECURITY AT ALL. I can be let go at any time, and I would have to fight and scratch to live. I really do not know what more or else these idiots want me to do.

Now, I'm not complaining nor bragging, but if I feel completely insecure. I just can't imagine how someone with kids and no advanced education must be feeling.

[mrcheerful]

8. Yeah don't you love how education has changed your life and given you untold opportunities at having

a safe secure life where any job you want is yours for the taking? Yes, sarcasm, it keeps me going at times. Being disabled since age 5 and growing up in the 60's and 70's when it was ok for teachers to tell disabled kids that it was a waste of their time trying to teach handi capped kids anything because they were going to be a burden to society no matter if they were taught or not. Then after turning 18 trying to find work that lasted longer then 6 months and paid min wage, they kept puting me into handi cap programs that only paid 75% of min wage. Then finilly getting on SS-Di after Reagan messed it up. tthen having a monthly check coming in late because of Reagans war against the Democratic congress. Yep, I know what feeling insecure is all about. Smile it could be worse, you could have married a republican, lol.

[LSK]

4. that massive recession in 1997 and 1998 was a real killer, wasnt it!!!

[imax2268]

9. check out some of these idiots...?

http://www.azfamily.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=16

[mrcheerful]

10. Been there done that lol. Check this out

Bush is a Doer-

With everyone speculating on George W. Bush legacy, i thought I would note some of President Bush's positive achievements.

President Bush brought this nation through the worst terrorist attack in American history on Sept 11,2001.

President Bush brought this nation through the worst natural disaster in America Hurricane Katrina.

President Bush has an unemployment rate nationally of 4.5 percent.

The U.S stock market is at an all time high of 12,500 plus.

President Bush signed into law a ban on partial-birth abortions, something his predeccessor vetoed twice.

President Bush signed into law prescription drug coverage for the eldery.

I believe President Bush's greatest legacy, will be the war on terrorism and the war in Iraq.

President Bush is trying to bring the light of liberty and freedom to a country that was ruled be a brutal dictator for more than 35 years.

Saddam was a bully, he gassed his own people and started the first Gulf war in 1991. There were 17 U.N. resolutions against the iraqi dictator, and he refused to comply. President Bush was the only leader in the free world with the guts to make him comply.

Many Democrats say they were mislead or that Bush lied about weapons of mass distruction in Iraq, but they had the same information the president had when they voted to fund the war. President Clinton also believed Saddam had weapons of mass distruction.

Liberals and Democrats are good at talking about freedom President Bush is not only a talker, he's a doer.

How will it all turn out ?

Only time will tell-

(This article was in the peoples forumn in the Saginaw news- I found it very truthful and just wanted to pass it on. )

The funny thing is the forum he is talking about is the opinion page of said news paper. lol.

Edited to add, this area this was written in was a GMC city and is fast becoming a dead city. Unemployment is so high that welfare is paying poor people to move out of the city. Yet this numb nut writes this.