so much Edwards...I had to throw this out...

[stillcool]

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Edwards Veers Hard Right

by Michael Carmichael

Global Research, January 24, 2007
n a shocking development, John Edwards cast aside his progressive veneer and veered to the hard right to support the escalation of Bush’s wars in the Middle East to engulf Iran.

During a lamentable speech he made in Tel Aviv, Edwards sanctioned a US war against Iran; denied the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group (ISG) and bashed the Palestinian people.

According to a report on the website, TotallyJewish.com, John Edwards proclaimed his support for the neoconservative agenda of the Israel Lobby, and he even echoed the bellicose rhetoric of George Bush vis a vis Iran - “Hinting to possible military action.”

In his speech before the Herzilya Conference in Tel Aviv, John Edwards echoed the neoconservative ideology of George W. Bush who is threatening to bomb Iran. In Israel, Edwards is now regarded as a strong supporter for American military intervention in Iran and the de facto expansion of the war in Iraq that would then engulf Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan in a flaming arc of war, terrorism and ultra-violence.

Edwards’ position on Iran places him to the right of Bush’s newly installed Secretary of Defense, William Gates, who warned the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that any such expansion of the war into Iran would have, “devastating consequences.”

Additionally, Edwards criticized Syria for not doing enough to prove it was serious about negotiating the return of the Golan Heights in exchange for its help in fostering peace between Israel and the Palestinians and stabilizing the increasingly turbulent situation inside Iraq.

His position on Syria places Edwards to the right of the bipartisan ISG that recommended negotiations with Syria for the resolution of both the war in Iraq and a peace settlement with Israel.

To top those blunders, Edwards then criticized the Palestinians for democratically electing the Hamas government.

In the same disastrous speech, Edwards refrained from criticizing Israel for withholding hundreds of millions of dollars of the Palestinians’ funds and creating chaos among the already deeply repressed population. Israel’s deliberate withholding of the Palestinians’ funds exacerbated the already dreadful conditions in the Occupied Territories and the Gaza Strip where the United Nations describes Israel’s harsh repression of the Palestinian people as one of the most egregious violations of human rights in the world today.

At no time in his entire career has John Edwards ever publicly expressed any concern for Israel’s refusal to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Neither has Edwards criticized Israel’s refusal to acknowledge the existence of her powerful nuclear arsenal that is known to contain over 200 nuclear warheads making her either the third or fourth most powerful nation on earth.

In a statement that tacitly condoned Israel’s repressive policies: targeted assassinations; house demolitions; military attacks on civilian targets; detentions of thousands of Palestinian political prisoners and the persistent violation of the human rights of the Palestinians - Edwards proclaimed his allegiance to the agenda designed by the American Israel Political Action Committee, (AIPAC). In their now well-known paper, two highly distinguished American academics, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, exposed AIPAC as the political core of the Israel Lobby.

While John Edwards has capably expressed his support for the deconstruction of the premiere project of the Israel Lobby - the US war in Iraq - he leaves the impression that he is now ready, willing and able to launch their next foolish project - a US attack against Iran.

The fact that Edwards condones the humiliating violations of the human rights of the Palestinian people places him far to the right of former President Jimmy Carter whose latest book: Palestine: Peace not Apartheid is now soaring at the top of the bestseller lists in America.

All of this inconsistency with Edwards’ pledge to uphold human rights is deeply disappointing. Edwards’s neoconservative attitudes will be disappointing to the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.

Edwards promised to be a progressive candidate, but he now appears to be a devotee of the Democratic Leadership Council masquerading as a progressive who is obviously under the heady ether of the Israel Lobby
The CRG grants permission to cross-post original Global Research articles on community internet sites as long as the text & title are not modified. The source and the author's copyright must be displayed.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CAR20070124&articleId=4577

© Copyright Michael Carmichael, Planetary movement and GlobalResearch.ca, 2007

The url address of this article is: www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CAR20070124&articleId=4577

[JohnLocke]

1. "Secretary of Defense, William Gates"? This article is bullcrap.

It's Robert Gates. Just one of the obvious reasons why this article is bullshit.

[BuyingThyme]

3. Woops.

:rofl:

[stillcool]

5. about the author..

http://thepoliticaljunkies.net/
Since 1968, Michael Carmichael has been a professional political consultant. Beginning as a Student Coordinator for Robert F. Kennedy, he has worked in five US presidential campaigns as well as over 100 major American political campaigns for federal and state offices. In 1985, he founded The Oxford Centre for Public Affairs in the United Kingdom. In 2003, he founded The Planetary Movement Limited, a global public affairs organization based in the United Kingdom. He has appeared as a public affairs expert on the BBC, European Business News, NPR and many European television broadcasts examining American politics and culture. In addition to his column for The Political Junkies, he is a regular contributor to the Moving Planet weblog.

Articles by Michael Carmichael on Global Research
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=listByAuthor&authorFirst=Michael&authorName=Carmichael

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[BuyingThyme]

2. Woops, forgot the quotes.

It's hard to come up with quotes when you're writing about a speech.

:rofl:

[stillcool]

6. I have no idea...

what you're referring to?...

[BuyingThyme]

7. I'm referring to the article you posted.

It's about a speech.

[stillcool]

9. well yes it is ..

Edwards: Iran Threat Serious
By Ronen Bodoni - Tuesday 23rd of January 2007
"Iran is serious about its threats," former US Senator John Edwards has told an audience in Israel.
"The challenges in your own backyard – represent an unprecedented threat to the world and Israel," the candidate for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination told the Herzliya Conference, referring mainly to the Iranian threat.
In his speech, Edwards criticised the United States' previous indifference to the Iranian issue, saying they have not done enough to deal with the threat.
Hinting to possible military action, Edwards stressed that "in order to ensure Iran never gets nuclear weapons, all options must remain on table."
On the recent UN Security Council's resolution against Iran, Edwards said more serious political and economic steps should be taken. "Iran must know that the world won’t back down," he said.
Addressing the second Lebanon war , Edwards accused the Islamic Republic of having a significant role, saying Hizbullah was an instrument of Iran, and Iranian rockets were what made the organization's attack on Israel possible.
Edwards also discussed Syria's recent calls for peace with Israel, saying that "talk is cheap," and that Syria was not doing enough to prove it was serious.
The former senator also said that Syria has been a great source of destabilization in the area, from its support of Hizbullah and Hamas, to its relationship with Iran, and for this it should be held accountable.
After opening his speech with great praise for Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, Edward's continued to express great appreciation for the Israeli people and the special bond between the two countries, saying it was "a bond that will never be broken."
On the three Israel Defense Force soldiers who are being held captive by Hizbullah in Lebanon and Palestinian terrorists in Gaza, Edwards said, "It is well past time for their return home."
He continued to say that Israel has made many concessions in order to advance peace, including the Disengagement plan, adding that despite Israel's willingness to return to negotiations, little has been seen on the Palestinian side.
Edwards also spoke against the Palestinian Authority, saying the Hamas government was no partner, and that Israel should make efforts to strengthen Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas against Hamas.
He also said the Palestinian government must know that foreign aid should not be take for granted, and that the US and Europe must do everything possible to make sure the money does not go to terrorists.
Until Israel has a real partner, according to Edwards, Israel has the right, and indeed the obligation to defend itself, and should be strengthened militarily, politically, and economically.
In a further display of support for Israel, Edwards went so far as to suggest that Israel should even be made a member of NATO, saying it was only natural that the organization would seen to include Israel next.
http://www.totallyjewish.com/news/world/?content_id=5400

[Hieronymus]

4. Yes, I was willing to support Edwards before he made that move.

I think Gore has the qualifications and he will be elected again if he runs.:applause:

[BuyingThyme]

8. Here's what John Edwards really said:

After reading it, read again what Michael Carmichael said.

Senator John Edwards:

It’s a great privilege for me to be able to participate in this conference which has played an important role in bringing people together from all walks of life. The Herzliya Conference is a great forum for what is happening in Israel.

I am aware that it was at this conference that PM Ariel Sharon gave his courageous speech outlining his disengagement. He helped Israel face some of its major challenges.

Throughout his career and public service Sharon has shown courage, including his historic decision to evacuate Gaza. More than anyone else, Sharon has, in my judgment, believed that a strong Israel is a safe Israel and that Israel needs to defend itself against security threats.

We also need to remember the three soldiers and their families for whom it is well past time for their return home. They are a symbol of the extraordinary challenges facing Israel and Middle East. One source of strength is the bond between Israel and the United States, which is a bond that will never be broken. For more than half a century both countries have benefited from this alliance. We share common values such as freedom and democracy. I was in Israel in 2001 and I’ll never forget just as I was ending my visit, a Hamas suicide bomber wearing an explosive belt blew up the Sbarro pizzeria. It made an impact on me to see the extraordinary sacrifice made by the Israeli people everyday. They continue to make sacrifices to ensure your security and achieve peace. I saw firsthand the threats you face every day. I feel that I understand on a very personal level those threats. The challenges in your own backyard – rise of Islamic radicalism, use of terrorism, and the spread of nuclear technology and weapons of mass destruction – represent an unprecedented threat to the world and Israel.

At the top of these threats is Iran. Iran threatens the security of Israel and the entire world. Let me be clear: Under no circumstances can Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons. For years, the US hasn’t done enough to deal with what I have seen as a threat from Iran. As my country stayed on the sidelines, these problems got worse. To a large extent, the US abdicated its responsibility to the Europeans. This was a mistake. The Iranian president’s statements such as his description of the Holocaust as a myth and his goals to wipe Israel off the map indicate that Iran is serious about its threats.

Once Iran goes nuclear, other countries in the Middle East will go nuclear, making Israel’s neighborhood much more volatile.

Iran must know that the world won’t back down. The recent UN resolution ordering Iran to halt the enrichment of uranium was not enough. We need meaningful political and economic sanctions. We have muddled along for far too long. To ensure that Iran never gets nuclear weapons, we need to keep ALL options on the table, Let me reiterate – ALL options must remain on the table.

The war in Lebanon had Iranian fingerprints all over it. I was in Israel in June, and I took a helicopter trip over the Lebanese border. I saw the Hezbollah rockets, and the havoc wreaked by the extremism on Israel’s border. Hezbollah is an instrument of the Iranian government, and Iranian rockets allowed Hezbollah to attack and wage war against Israel.

I cannot talk about the war last summer without referring to the Syrian role in destabilizing area. Syria needs to be held accountable. Syria has recently called for peace talks with Israel. Talk is cheap. Syria needs to go long way to prove it is ready for peace. It can start by not harboring terrorists and ending its nefarious relationship with Iran.

While Iran is the greatest threat now, but just as alarming is the one on your doorstep. Hamas, with Iranian support, doesn’t make any mistake of its intentions to wipe out Israel, and repeatedly makes calls to raise the banner of Allah over all of Israel. Israel made many concessions. Many settlers gave up there land in order to advance peace.

Israel can take more steps to advance peace like bolstering Abbas against Hamas. While Israel is willing to go back to negotiating table, little has been seen on the Palestinian side. We instead have seen chaos and violence on the street, and no revocation of violence against Israel.

Outside assistance to Palestinian governance is not an entitlement. The US and Europe need to ensure that money going to the Palestinians does not go to lining the pockets of terrorists. For peace, Israel needs a partner.

Absent this partnership, Israel not only has the right to defend itself, it has an obligation to defend itself. This means continuing to ensure Israel’s military strength, diplomatically and economically. The hurdles are clear.

For too long, the current US administration’s commitment to this issue has been halfhearted. Now, on the backdrop of Iraq, they have tried to bring the two sides together. This is especially significant since they have squandered America’s moral authority in the Middle East and around the world.

We should be finding ways to upgrade Israel’s relationship with NATO. This could even some day mean membership. NATO’s mission now goes far beyond just Europe. Therefore, it is only natural that NATO seeks to include Israel.

Your challenges are our challenges. Your future is our future. The US will continue to stand by you. God bless you.

[stillcool]

10. I guess we each see...

what we want to see.

[BuyingThyme]

11. Read the first three paragraphs of Michael Carmichael's article,

and tell me he's not a total liar.

[stillcool]

12. there is no need

for any further discussion. It looks like I'm in the wrong place.

At the top of these threats is Iran. Iran threatens the security of Israel and the entire world. Let me be clear: Under no circumstances can Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons. For years, the US hasn’t done enough to deal with what I have seen as a threat from Iran. As my country stayed on the sidelines, these problems got worse. To a large extent, the US abdicated its responsibility to the Europeans. This was a mistake. The Iranian president’s statements such as his description of the Holocaust as a myth and his goals to wipe Israel off the map indicate that Iran is serious about its threats.

Once Iran goes nuclear, other countries in the Middle East will go nuclear, making Israel’s neighborhood much more volatile.
(1)
Iran must know that the world won’t back down. The recent UN resolution ordering Iran to halt the enrichment of uranium was not enough. We need meaningful political and economic sanctions. We have muddled along for far too long. To ensure that Iran never gets nuclear weapons, we need to keep ALL options on the table, Let me reiterate – ALL options must remain on the table.

The war in Lebanon had Iranian fingerprints all over it. I was in Israel in June, and I took a helicopter trip over the Lebanese border. I saw the Hezbollah rockets, and the havoc wreaked by the extremism on Israel’s border. Hezbollah is an instrument of the Iranian government, and Iranian rockets allowed Hezbollah to attack and wage war against Israel.
(2)
I cannot talk about the war last summer without referring to the Syrian role in destabilizing area. Syria needs to be held accountable. Syria has recently called for peace talks with Israel. Talk is cheap. Syria needs to go long way to prove it is ready for peace. It can start by not harboring terrorists and ending its nefarious relationship with Iran.

While Iran is the greatest threat now, but just as alarming is the one on your doorstep. Hamas, with Iranian support, doesn’t make any mistake of its intentions to wipe out Israel, and repeatedly makes calls to raise the banner of Allah over all of Israel. Israel made many concessions. Many settlers gave up there land in order to advance peace.
(3.)
Israel can take more steps to advance peace like bolstering Abbas against Hamas. While Israel is willing to go back to negotiating table, little has been seen on the Palestinian side. We instead have seen chaos and violence on the street, and no revocation of violence against Israel.

Outside assistance to Palestinian governance is not an entitlement. The US and Europe need to ensure that money going to the Palestinians does not go to lining the pockets of terrorists. For peace, Israel needs a partner.

Absent this partnership, Israel not only has the right to defend itself, it has an obligation to defend itself. This means continuing to ensure Israel’s military strength, diplomatically and economically. The hurdles are clear.

1.John Edwards proclaimed his support for the neoconservative agenda of the Israel Lobby, and he even echoed the bellicose rhetoric of George Bush vis a vis Iran - “Hinting to possible military action.”
In his speech before the Herzilya Conference in Tel Aviv, John Edwards echoed the neoconservative ideology of George W. Bush who is threatening to bomb Iran. In Israel, Edwards is now regarded as a strong supporter for American military intervention in Iran and the de facto expansion of the war in Iraq that would then engulf Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan in a flaming arc of war, terrorism and ultra-violence....true!
2.Additionally, Edwards criticized Syria for not doing enough to prove it was serious about negotiating the return of the Golan Heights in exchange for its help in fostering peace between Israel and the Palestinians and stabilizing the increasingly turbulent situation inside Iraq. True!
3.To top those blunders, Edwards then criticized the Palestinians for democratically electing the Hamas government. True!

[burythehatchet]

15. It took Edwards one speech to flush years of work

down the political toilet. I wouldn't vote him for dog catcher.

[stillcool]

17. sad...it'll probably help him.

playing politics is so ugly.

[BuyingThyme]

18. Umm, those aren't the first three paragraphs.

To correct the record, here's what liar Michael Carmichael said in the first three paragraphs:

In a shocking development, John Edwards cast aside his progressive veneer and veered to the hard right to support the escalation of Bush’s wars in the Middle East to engulf Iran.

(lie)

During a lamentable speech he made in Tel Aviv, Edwards sanctioned a US war against Iran; denied the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group (ISG) and bashed the Palestinian people.

(lie, lie, arguably true)

According to a report on the website, TotallyJewish.com, John Edwards proclaimed his support for the neoconservative agenda of the Israel Lobby, and he even echoed the bellicose rhetoric of George Bush vis a vis Iran - “Hinting to possible military action.”

(true, these lies appear on TotallyJewish.com, only making it easier for Carmichael to lie)

[stillcool]

21. Ummmmm....No need for further discussion n/t

[BuyingThyme]

22. Umm... I didn't know you were in charge of discussion.

Are you the decider?

[stillcool]

25. Of my discussion?...

Yes. Pointless inane discussion is not my thing. You just have to find someone else to play with.

[BuyingThyme]

26. Facts do that to some people.

[burythehatchet]

14. What a sorry assed speech

The courage of Ariel Sharon. Read a little history lil Johnny

[thethinker]

13. Well,

I hope Edwards picked up lots of votes in Israel, because he sure lost a bunch of votes here.

I have long thought Edwards was our strongest candidate. I have changed my mind. An honest man does not say one thing in Israel and another thing in America.

The American people, both Democrats and Republicans, are sick to death of tough talk about the middle east. We can all see where tough talk has gotten us. The public is ready for a strong leader that wants peace, and an end to wars. Everyone I know is waiting for someone like Webb to enter the race. I think anyone that speaks out against this war, and means it, will win. Most of the people running, like Obama and Clinton, are trying to have it both ways. They want the anti-war vote, but they want to talk tough also. That is so phony. I really think a republican that comes out strongly against this war might win.

I am very disappointed in Edwards.

[stillcool]

16. I'm happy to see that someone..

recognizes the schism. I'm not sure that anyone could be elected without playing nice with Israel. It's offensive, but perhaps necessary? I don't know. But discussions about 'choosing' candidates based on image, or some other picayune criteria, especially at this place and time leaves me stunned. I was trying to highlight this...but I guess I failed.

[Duppers]

19. How I wanted to support him!

But I can no longer support Edwards. Thanks, stillcool, for opening a few eyes here. I saw these stories the other day but didn't have time to organize a post.

Those irrelevant, stupid posts about the size of a frikin' house should just bite the dust.

Edwards' "all options on the table" comment/attitude is a real and extremely serious issue.

[NoodleyAppendage]

20. Hillary's Opposition Mudslingers are at it...or, alternatively this could be Repuke fulmented.

PEOPLE wake up. We're going to see this sort of anti-candidate bullshit from now till 2008...most I suspect being cooked up by the Repukes to fulment disorder among the Dem frontrunners.

J

[FrenchieCat]

23. How? These are Edwards' words.....

I know that the Clenis was blamed for a lot of things, but now it's Hillary's fault?

I think that Edwards is just not "Good" in Foreign policy; doesn't do nuance.

He also said that Israel should be invited to join NATO. Now that plays well in Israel...but I don't think Europe or the rest of the ME will appreciate that bit of advice from John Edwards.

And yes, the house is a silly matter, IMO. In fact it detracts and obscures the facts of this serous issue here.

Let Edwards have his house...cause if I can help it, he ain't going to the White House.

We need some heavyweights willing to do what's right, not someone pandering to AIPAC for some campaign dollars saying some Bushshit.

[fla nocount]

24. Just another DLC Democrat..

Bootlicking asshat. When these candidates run their pie holes you have to wonder who they're speaking to; you? me? or a presence behind the curtain with their hand on a switch that controls the lights.

I believe L stands for leadership and that explains it all. There's no place for leaders/cronies under the Big Tent.........just folks.......us folks with a common purpose. John E. isn't folks in my opinion; he is a person with a big investment in the status quo.

This isn't about his house as I want one just like it, it's about change. John E. is Hillary in a business suit.....and a big new house which he worked hard to earn and I hope he enjoys.