Yeah some are nit picking nannies, sadly some anarchists are stupid that way.I blow them off. I stick my tongue out at them and say,so you wanna be the lord of the universe now? That shuts them up at least when they go nanny on me..controlling people playing as if they are not controlling really don't like their true motives exposed and ridiculed in front of others.
< At least in the US, the movement is stifled by people scolding one another over eating meat and not recycling, which makes it more like "hard-core liberalism" particularly in its inability to attack capitalism as system.>
Agree with you there,but the central principle behind anarchy gets lost in the muck,I agree,But it IS about the rejection of authoritarians,domination and psychopathy.That idea is very valuable even if some anarchists STILL do not GET IT yet.
<When it does attack, it is pretty impressive on one hand--breaking windows and scaring the bejeebus out of cops--which I really respect,>
I respect that too. I have done a few annoyingly hilarious things,in my day too.lulz..I don't bust shit up,I just annoy the living shit out of TPTB.
<but on the other hand, their ability to obtain critical mass seems unlikely, since they are heavily monitored by the FBI, handed insane sentences for trivial offenses or sometimes no offense at all, which makes their legal bills astounding.>
True but..doesn't the insane reaction against Anarchists show you which group of resistance the capitalists fear the most?
<Their lack of structure also leads them to being open to agent provocateurs. At the RNC, a solid 10% of the anarchist affinity groups were actually agents. The other problem is that, ironically, they act like a tiny, countercultural vanguard--despite the fact that they hate the concept.>
I know,and I agree with all your points,but at the same time,if more people knew the enemies against humanity are AUTHORITY ,PSYCHOPATHY,ABUSERS and PREDATION then they might more see clearly what they really want out of their lives and if they kept focused on this personality type a predator in humanity that causes so much strife they wouldn't be prone to being so manipulatable or blaming a race politic or religion or listening to authority and be more effective in limiting abusers of power rather than get caught up in theories or minor rebellions??
<I really like anarchists in Greece and Italy. I actually do have a lot of respect for the dedication of anarchists and I do agree that once we get rid of capitalism, we'll need to focus on insuring that bureaucratization doesn't ensue. But right now I think the answer lies in an organized socialist party. Socialists, because they have a structure and don't commit petty "crimes", have a line of defense against infiltration. Also, socialists aren't anti-structure and have little interest in "boycotts" which really only the wealthy can manage. For that reason, the socialists have made a lot of inroads into the military and returning vets--people who could "stand down" in the event of a true authoritarian assault against the people. And they also are successful in reaching out to regular working class people who aren't counter cultural. If you're going to build a mass resistance in the U.S., it by definition can't be a small, hip counter-cultural group.>
Well,you'd be surprised who gravitates to which sorts of groups Anarchists can relate to.
Socialists are vulnerable because of their structures as well,remember what Lyndon LaRouche did? He really fucked over part of the the socialist party and has made his own fiefdom of paranoids and of course there is the demonization of the word socialist,and the failed socialist states and the spectre of stalin, and Mao that many are conditioned to fear that socialists have to overcome..So few know the truth.Let alone dare find it themselves.
< is a micro-version of a "state's rights" argument. It's also dependent on the total destruction of global corporations apriori. It doesn't really have a way to bring the system down, just a proscription for how to rebuild after.>
Agreed that is the LIBERTARIAN bullshit some anarchists have swallowed,and at that point it ain't anarchy anymore.
<That's my two cents. :shrug: But, at heart, I like anarchists believe it or not.>
I think the Anarcho-syndicalist and socialist-anarchist movements can be a blend of the best of both.With the socialists and anarchists working together,and sharing ideas strategies etc.They potentially could be very effective if they both got their shit together.
Ever hear of anonymous? They are fighting scientology..
Interesting to say the least..
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