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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:35 PM
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Breaking: New DOJ Document Dump!!!
The documents are here:

http://judiciary.house.gov/Printshop.aspx?Section=464

And here's a little background on the late document dump from TPM muckraker:

The Justice Department turned over yet more documents to Congress today -- documents which seem to show that Alberto Gonzales' chief of staff Kyle Sampson was responsible for misleading Congress about Karl Rove's role in replacing a U.S. attorney.


http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002898.php

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:37 PM
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1. Did Congress ask for these, or did the DOJ just decide to send them?.....
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:38 PM
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2. These "documents" just keep getting better everyday ;)
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:42 PM
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5. no, this looks like a "kill the messenger strategy' since Sampson has agreed to talk.
In addition, I find that sending documents now, menas that documents were withheld from congress, doesn't it? Selectively sending the documents they want to has to be illegal. Congress asked for ALL documents. Unless, this was a reply to a new congressional request, it seems very suspicious to me...
Sampson will be testifying tomorrow. They send out documents incriminating him today/ Why not last week or the week before then? This looks to me like Gonzalez trying to bury Sampson, and with it Sampson's testimony...
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:11 PM
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12. Maybe. Hmmmm. ....n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:41 PM
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3. SNAP!
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:41 PM
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4. How did Sampson mislead congress--
he didn't even testify yet.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:45 PM
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6. Apparently there was a list of questions that the DOJ answered
in writing and supposedly the material provided was false. Looks like they want Sampson to take the hit on this one.
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:46 PM
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7. I think
the emails show that he told the people who WERE testifying things that weren't true, which caused those people to testify falsely.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:51 PM
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9. Which in and of itself is illegal
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:15 PM
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14. Well they lit the fuse to
their own dynamite now. They would have only one purpose to do this, to try to blunt what they know is coming.

That's a smooth move Gonzalez, make him angry. Psstt, he's your chief of staff.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:49 PM
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8. New Slogan: either sampson takes the fall, or he screws them to the wall
(with apologies to the late Johnnie Cochrane).

Seriously, since (I believe) there is evidence that Sampson knew about Rove's involvement, either Sampson admits that he directed that the letter deny Rove's involvement on his own initiative (he takes the fall) or he testifies that someone (big question...who) told him to make the change.

Gonna be interesting...
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:18 PM
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15. He'll Take The Fall For His Heroes
These VERMIN actually enjoy covering up for their superiors, a la Libby, and although he'll likely fight and do what he can to escape, in the end, he'll fall on the sword for KKKarl, etc.

And then in 20 months, he'll have that last minute pardon to look forward to.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:26 PM
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16. I don't think he'll cut his hair off for the delilahs
He's going before congress tomorrow - WILLINGLY...
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:32 PM
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19. And that's the operative word.
If I were in the Justice Department right now I would be :hurts: my knickers.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:01 PM
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10. MISSING. Where are the e-mail addresses. Full headers are needed.
The Committees need to request full headers for all documents, and the e-mail addreses used in all the emails. Copies without full headers are incomplete.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:07 PM
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11. Having worked for the DOJ in document handling
I can tell you this is typical behavior. Delay, delay, delay, then bury them under a flood of paper.

I should offer my services to congress.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:41 PM
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20. It's not only the DOJ that does this. I think it's SOP in most cases.
At least those that are big enough to matter. The burry them under mountains of paper is an old lawyer trick. You actually DO give the opposition everything they asked for, but there's SO much material,the damning evidence will most likely be missed.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:24 PM
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21. I would. Leahy posts his e-mail. n/t
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:13 PM
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13. Hertling writes in bold: "This message has been archived."
DOJ Document Set 4 Released on 3-28-2007
Page 5 of 43

Hertling writes in bold: "This message has been archived."

Now on Lou Dobbs saying it seems apparent "there were contradictions if not outright lies."

See this thread too:
Email-Gate FACTS: Felons, georgewbush.com, gwb43.com , et. al.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x523978

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:30 PM
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17. Slightly early release. Think they're sitting on something bigger for Friday?
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:31 PM
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18. More documents? WOW!
I have a thread concerning the Ohio GOP, gwb43.com, georgewbush.com

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x469875
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