Does Goodling NEED her law license to keep her job?

[napi21]

I was listening to John Dean on Olberman tonight, and at the end of their conversation, Dean said her refusing to testify and claiming her 5th ammendment right could trigger the Bar association to review her law license.

I never thought of that, and have been curious ever since hearing him about the requirements to have her job at the DOJ. Does everyone in that Dept. have to be a LICENSED Attorney?

Of course, the other thought that won't leave my mind is, if the DIJ is full of lawyers, how the hell did they get themselves in this mess to begin with????

[kiahzero]

1. No.

And it's the Fifth Amendment.

[napi21]

2. Oops! I knew it was the 5th. It's my really bad typing again! Sorry!

[SeaBob]

3. Goodling

I watched the same segment. I think you mean her 5th amendment rights. and no everyone at DOJ who works at DOJ does not have to have a law license. I suspect that those people who are in investigative or enforcement positions within DOJ probably are required to be a member of the bar in the state in which they work.

[napi21]

6. The reason I was asking is because I wondered just how much of a threat

losing her license would be? I remember hearing the Pubsyelling about Bill Clinton having his law license suspended, and at the time I really believed he really wouldn't care! I don't think he EVER intended to practice law again!

Monica Goodling however might be in a different position. If her job depended on it, that would certainly matter, and because this is a "political position" she knows shewon't have it forever. Lots of Reps. and Sens. join law firms after they leave office, and I would think Monica would look to do that too.

[Horse with no Name]

12. It might not matter now

But she is young, sometime in the future she may regret her decision to let this cabal screw her out of it.

[Raven]

4. First of all, she's taking the 5th, second, she has a

constitutional right to take the 5th, third, John Dean is smoking something if he said she could be disbarred because she chose to take the 5th, fourth, lawyers get themselves into deep shit all the time. If she is found to have lied or committed some other criminal or unethical act, the Bar Association can have at her, but, remember, there ARE innocent people who take the 5th. She may or may not be one of them but it is entirely too early to tell and frying this woman just because she is going to exercise her 5th amendment right under the Constitution of the United States is not where we should be going with this!

[napi21]

8. I agree she has the Constitutional right to exercise her 5th ammendment rights.

I think there has to be a reason no one at the DOJ has ever done so in the past, and that's what seems to be causing the stir. I must admit, since no Congressman has accused Monica of anything, it does seem a bit odd that she is unwilling to testify to what she and others in her Dept.have done, UNLESS shealready assumes something wrong WAS DONE. It may be legal,but it looks suspicions.

[Raven]

9. She obviously knows something or she wouldn't be

doing this. May only point here is that she should not be condemned because she took the 5th.

[kiahzero]

13. I think he was calling her stupid.

He was making the point that her stated reasons for taking the Fifth aren't legally sound.

[John Q. Citizen]

14. She may or may not have a right to invoke the 5th. That is her argument, but that's open

to debate.

I agree that approaching the whole situation in an unemotional and rational frame of mind is best to prevailing in the end.

Demonizing various underlings of the fascist regime isn't the fastest most effective method to root out the rot, often times. Of course, sometimes it is.

There's a public perception aspect to this case as well as a legal presumption of innocents, though. So while legally she is innocent unless she is charged and convicted of something, out in the world people wonder what she might incriminate herself for, were she to testify.

This second aspect is crucial in a political and well watched case like this.

Inquiring minds want to know, and all.

[Warpy]

5. Bible colleges are unaccredited

and they put Leviticus on an equal footing with torts, contracts, and every other aspect of law practice. It's easy to understand how they got themselves in this mess: they spent too little time on the body of law and too much time on the bible. The DOJ has been stacked with such people, the ones who think being "saved" allows them to break all the laws of god and man with impunity.

Anyone in the DOJ who takes the Fifth in front of Congress needs to be dismissed the same day. The last place a self admitted crook needs to be is in the Department of Justice.

If she is allowed to remain by this hopelessly corrupt misadministration, what sort of justice can honest people to expect from the corrupt?

[Raven]

7. Why would these protections be in the 5th Amendment if

they were only available to criminals?? I don't understand the logic here. I'm not defending this woman, I'm simply defending people's right not to be railroaded. What do you possibly know about the woman's conduct that makes you judge her a crminal? As someone has already said on this site, maybe she will be the only person telling the truth. If she has committed a crime, they will probably get her but it won't be by her own words, that all there is to this.

[napi21]

11. If something I said made you think I was accusing Monica of

being a criminal, I MUST have mis-stated something! Personally, I don't think SHE did anything wrong. I think she's trying to protect her boss or her fellow employees. If there is a crime in anything shedoes, it's a crime of PROTECTING a criminal.

[Warpy]

15. We're talking about the DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

Just as 30 year old teachers are held to a higher moral standard and are not supposed to go out with their 18 year old students, people in that particular branch of the Executive are held to a higher legal standard.

Back in the good old days when Justice was interested in delivering what its name promised, even the appearance of any impropriety, whether or not it actually existed, would be reason for forced resignation or outright dismissal.

Pleading the fifth is a tacit admission of guilt as well as a way to dodge a perjury charge.

She needs to GO.

[Venus Dog]

10. Perhaps John Dean knows more than he's saying

for him to make that statement. There's a lot of shite that's going to be hitting the fans of D.C. in the weeks to come.