Rove, Ralston and Blackberrys. Can Blackberry records be subpoenaed?

[WiseButAngrySara]

Or are there traceable records of Blackberrys?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=507947&mesg_id=512150
This recent post on Ralston had me questing for a photo I had remembered of Ralston, Rove and Co. during the evening of the Presidential election. A response to my query was posted by Judi Lynn, and the DU thread and the photo were the ones I recalled reading. I scanned the thread, and found a question posted by formercia, who asked if they were using Blackberrys; if so, they couldn't be traced or subpoenaed, like phones or e-mails. Is this the case? If so, you can guarantee that even the e-mails posted by these thugs on the RNC server will represent only the tip of the iceberg.

Here's the archived thread, titled "What's Rove doing with this bank of computers?" See post #27 and the resulting subthread discussion.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x423695

[napi21]

1. Apparently the answer is YES! Check this link.

http://privacyspot.com/?q=node/view/515

(snip)
messages that appear to be sent directly from one device to another (including SMS, instant messages, and PIN messages) aren't, and the introduction of the PIN messages in litigation is a good example of how such messages can be traced and reproduced because they are sent through servers.

People have been learning that e-mail messages aren't completely private; now they need to recognize that these other forms of text messaging leave similar footprints.

[WiseButAngrySara]

5. Thank you. I've tried to google this and it was not all

that fruitful (no pun intended! ...blackberry fruit)

[grasswire]

2. and what about a log of cel phone calls?

Phone calls into and out of the WH are logged, aren't they? How can that be possible with cel phones?

[napi21]

8. As far as i know, where the call was to/from is recorded, but not

any conversations.

[WiseButAngrySara]

9. What about Blackberry text? n/t

[napi21]

12. The way I readthe info I found and posted is that the data is also

retained. With cell phones, we're talking about voice transmission and I believe that's different than data transferring across various servers.

[WiseButAngrySara]

14. I wonder if any Blackberry data will be subpoenaed... guess

we'll see!

[Patsy Stone]

3. If the government owns the Blackberrys and cel phones

why not?

bleever's gonna be so happy to see that thread appear again.

K&R

[WiseButAngrySara]

6. LOL! It was memorable wasn't it? ....n/t

[Patsy Stone]

21. I still haven't received a response from the BBC reporter either

It's only been three years. :)

[soulcore]

4. Yes, a blackberry still needs a mailserver. n/t

[WiseButAngrySara]

7. I hope you're right. ....n/t

[Sydnie]

10. Here's another interesting pic I came across of Ralston and the players

last night. I had never seen this pic before, so it really stuck out when I searched for her last night. Wonder what those records could tell us about this crew too.

[grasswire]

11. link?

That's Ralph Reed with his arm around Ralston. Is that Mrs. Reed, looking slightly pissed?

[Sydnie]

13. Link here - I had to go find it again

http://www.dccc.org/stakeholder/archives/004981.html

[grasswire]

16. thanks (eom)

[Sydnie]

15. I don't think that is Reed's wife - here is her pic

But don't miss that the guy on the right (in the first pic I posted) is Abramoff either!

[WiseButAngrySara]

17. Lindsey Graham? ....n/t

[Sydnie]

18. Nope, Ralph Reed, Susan Ralston, and Abramoff

Interesting, isn't it?

[WiseButAngrySara]

20. Very interesting. I hadn't realized that was Abramoff.

All ruined...

[KoKo]

22. Are you sure that's Abramoff? The face looks too long , hair is

different and glasses don't seem dude enough (going by other pics of him). :shrug:

[Sydnie]

23. This is from the DCCC - they said it was Abramoff and I agree with them

http://www.dccc.org/stakeholder/archives/004981.html

They have a link there that leads to this -

http://www.campaignmoney.org/blog/2006/07/07/reed-abramoff-emails-hit-the-fan







It's him.

[WiseButAngrySara]

19. Maybe it is Ralph Reed. They both look so alike. ...n/t