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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 07:08 AM
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Texas - House Bill 28 will make 2nd class citizineship...
House bill 28 in Texas would make a new class of citizen in the U.S.. House Bill 28, would nullify the right of citizenship automatically given to children born to illegal immigrants in the United States. Can you believe this sh*t?? While I agree that we need some kind of immigration reform, any person born in the US is a citizen, period.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 07:11 AM
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1. This IS the same Lege that once repealed the law of gravity
and also commended Ted Bundy for his work in population studies, and which routinely turns back the clock in their chambers to keep the session from running out.


There's awfully good reasons we only let them meet every other year and only for 140 days. That's all the damage this state can take...
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Na Gael Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:57 AM
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12. Perry's hair is proof of no gravity.
Look-up "vapid" in Webster's, and you'll find a picture of that man...Seriously.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 07:13 AM
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2. I Love Texas
It reminds me, almost daily, to thank the Creator for locating me in Massachusetts.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 07:15 AM
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3. I have the greatest respect for Texas Democrats
the crap you have to deal with is appalling.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 09:01 AM
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Austin is a really cool city.
They are the TX version of San Francisco. Most of the Texas Dem's hail from there, and as a result they tend to get looked down on with disdain from the rest of the state.

And you are correct the crap TX Dem's have to deal with there is appalling.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 07:31 AM
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4. Empty grandstanding for the constituents...
Since when does a State regulate US Citizenship?

March 28, 2007, 4:34PM
Most immigration bills before Legislature likely unconstitutional

AUSTIN — Two-thirds of the 30-plus immigration bills before the Legislature probably will not come up for a vote this session because they violate federal and state constitutional standards, lawmakers said Wednesday.

The chairmen of the House committees overseeing immigration proposals said they don't want to bring up bills before the full House "for no purpose," which would divide the chamber and could ultimately get struck down in court.

"It's inappropriate and a waste of the state's money," said Rep. David Swinford, chairman of the House Committee on State Affairs, which held a joint meeting Wednesday with the Border and International Affairs Committee on immigration-related legislation.

Swinford, R-Amarillo, said he asked the Texas Attorney General's Office to determine whether the immigration and border bills abide by the state and federal constitutions, federal law and federal court cases.


www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/4669477.html





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DemKR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 07:36 AM
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5. Unconstitutional
The constitution says if you're born in the US, you're a citizen.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:31 AM
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7. Does it say that?
I always thought it was a tradition (with the weight of law, of course). It would be great if it's actually part of the Constitution. Do you know which article and section?
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:47 AM
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8. Amendment XIV, Section 1
Edited on Thu Mar-29-07 08:47 AM by subliminable
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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Na Gael Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:54 AM
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11. The AG likes that one
Tries to imply "person" as "citizen" in that amendment. Was written that way for a reason damnit.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 09:01 AM
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13. thanks!
:blush:

I really should have known that!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:13 AM
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6. It's against the US Constitution and state's can't over-rule that.
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Na Gael Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:51 AM
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9. Sigh...
Why does this state waste my money egregiously?

Unconstitutional, pure and simple.

Hell, I can go one further...This was, and still is valid as far as I know:
Immigrant children under the age of 18, become citizens of the United States upon their guardians receipt of citizenship.

Citizenship by marriage has been amended within the last 5 or so years, so I'm not sure of its current policy.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:54 AM
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10. They'll have to change the constitution first
Morons :eyes:
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