*******OFFICIAL THREAD NO 7 SAMPSON TESTIMONY**********

[Ediacara]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

Thread 6: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x532657

LATEST: The GOP has forced the committee into recess, C-SPAN is replaying Sampson's opening comments.

[Solly Mack]

1. kickie-poos

[rodeodance]

26. poo

[Solly Mack]

34. hehe

[ProfessorPlum]

2. Sampson was talking about meetings at the WH

He kept saying he would meet with Miers and someone else - not Rove - on an ad hoc basis, after a certain recurring scheduled weekly meeting at the WH, and they would discuss which attorneys to shit can - oh, sorry - which attorneys would resign. Maybe he wasn't supposed to talk about that?

right after that, the GOP shut it down.

[DURHAM D]

22. I think Sampson's remark about the "schedule of Principals"

would cause meeting times to shift is going to be a problem when a Dem Senator gets the floor again. Who are the Principals?

[ProfessorPlum]

35. I think it was the principals at the meeting BEFORE the ad hoc "who should we fire" mtgs

What did he say they were? Attorney policy meetings or something that sounded fairly innocuous .

[DURHAM D]

50. The question is "Who are the principals?" that Sampson

was referring to. They closed down the hearing and got Sampson out of the room before that question could be put to him because the Dems did not have the floor - Grassley had the floor. They are consulting with Rove right now on how Sampson should answer the question.

[quiet.american]

3. Thanks, DinoBoy. n/t

[orleans]

i'll re ask since the last thread got locked...

how long is the senate going to be in session?

and when are we getting back to this hearing?)

and what is the senate doing now anyway?


anyone know?

[veness]

4. k & r. n/t

[flyarm]

5. ...but they never stopped this hearing when there was vote on the Iraq funding bill

Leahy had to excuse himself for that vote..this is bullshit..they do not want this to go freely forward..or they have to tell sampson what to say and how to answer!!

the dems need to repeat the question ..has anyone advised you on your testoimony today???

have you talked to anyone tied to Karl Rove..have any senators or congress people talked to you today about your testimony??

have any lawyers advised you during your testimony!!

has the WH had anyone advise you or talked to you today or yesterday!!

has attorney generals office contacted you today ..when you are no longer employed by them...or since you removed yourself from their service??


just my 2 cents!! and re-posting here... since other post locked when i was replying to a post..

fly

[helderheid]

12. You nailed it. They're telling him what to say right now

[Hepburn]

56. Absolutely agree.

When this went down to stop the hearing ~~ that was my first thought: Someone is gonna pull Kyle aside and "edumacate" him on what he should and should not be talking about. IMO, that weekly meeting stuff is a place for the Dems to dig in and dig in hard. Seems like Kyle might have exposed the Pubbie under-belly on all of this. Just like the guy in the Watergate hearing who inadvertently mentioned a taping system in the Oval Office. Man, my ears perked up on this info from Kyle.

[yankeeinlouisiana]

13. Good 2 cents!

Yes, they should ask those questions. Who objected? Anyone know yet?

[rodeodance]

43. 'selective' shutdowns!

[Solly Mack]

17. Yep...they need to ask him that again

this is damage control by the guilty and the complicit

[eleny]

18. As was borught out in the previous thread and here, too....

Sampson was talking too much about those Wednesday meetings, too.

I think you're right. Someone has to coach Sampson about how to talk about his testimony in general and those meetings.

[Duer 157099]

28. Agree -- he needs to be asked, again, about influence during recess

Betcha he comes back with an impaired memory, relative to just prior to recess.

[flyarm]

41. what was more important to the rethugs than the vote on Iraq funding>???

they didn't pull this shit during that vote...i smell a dead rat in the ally!!

lets all email the senators on this committee and demand they ask Sampson if he has been in touch with anyone with this admin or republucan congress or legal people in regards to his testimony today!!

they need to keep asking it with each question!! or senator!!

fly

[Ediacara]

6. Right now, C-SPAN-3 is replaying the WH press briefing from today

[IChing]

7. Anyone have a tivo on Kennedy''s new memo from justice?

He just got it today he said..........it was the bombshell that shut down the meeting.

[Spazito]

53. I think Kennedy is reading from this letter received yesterday

in a document dump:

http://judiciary.house.gov/media/PDFS/Conyers-Sanchez070328.pdf

[DURHAM D]

8. I think Hatch shut it down because Sampson was walking himself

into some trouble - rather he was walking the WH into trouble land. They are getting Sampson out of the room and will try to regulate his blood sugar - he is volunteering way to much info.

[Raven]

29. Hatch would know...Sampson worked for him. n/t

[Hepburn]

64. Yeah,

I smell Hatch's filthy little hands in this.

[Cameron27]

Thanks

K&R

[bdamomma]

9. what's going on was there a problem with the continuation with

the hearings?

[quiet.american]

15. The Republicants invoked a senate rule that no hearings can be held while Senate is in session.

Leahy said they will recess and will be back.

[rodeodance]

38. well, if that is a rule there are many hearings that will have to be

cancelled delayed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is all politics that is for sure.

[bobthedrummer]

33. The Republicans put it into recess until after Senate day is over-

kind of reminds me of the maneuvers of the Nazi Party in the Weimar.

Well-it's resuming, Leahy has never seen anything like it in his 33 years in DC.

[Up2Late]

10. They made a RULE that Senate Committees can't meet while the Senate is in session? WTF?

They actually LEGISLATED GRIDLOCK! :shrug::argh: :banghead:

[rodeodance]

19. Ed Schultz just said about Repugs using a rare rule. Politics??

[ProfessorPlum]

11. CSPAN3 back to watching pretty lady lie to me

lie to me, pretty lady.

[helderheid]

16. LOL

[quiet.american]

20. Good way to put it. n/t

[rodeodance]

14. Think Progress:Conservatives shut down Sampson hearing?

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject LEAHY: "The Republicans Have Objected To This Meeting Continuing"
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x532941#532941
532941, LEAHY: "The Republicans Have Objected To This Meeting Continuing"
Posted by Hissyspit on Thu Mar-29-07 01:26 PM

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/29/conservatives-shut-down-sampson-hearing

Conservatives shut down Sampson hearing?

Moments ago, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) interrupted Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA):

LEAHY: If the senator would yield, and I apologize. I apologize to Mr. Sampson. We’ve just received word that the Republicans have objected, under the Senate rules, to this meeting continuing. I think that’s unfortunate, but I will follow the rules of the Senate –

GRASSLEY: Does it apply to a Republican too?

LEAHY: Uh, the Republicans are the ones who don’t want to have the hearing, so the Republicans have the right under the rules to do that. We will stand — we will not adjourn, we will stay in recess until the Senate recesses. We will come back, and Sen. Grassley, if he wishes to be heard further, will be the first one to be heard.

[helderheid]

21. thanks for the transcript!

:hi:

[Cameron27]

Gawd, Think Progess got that out fast!

They're great.

[rodeodance]

32. yes, REAL fast

[SaveAmerica]

23. Now time for the Church Lady...

[AndyA]

24. This makes the Republics look very bad.

Childish. Covering something up. Needing time to get their shit together.

"Hey, let's get tickets for the maiden voyage of this new ship called the Titanic. It's unsinkable!"

[quiet.american]

25. I knew something had to be up when after lunch all the seats behind Sampson were empty. n/t

[Blackhatjack]

27. The Hearing was not adjourned(ended) but rather recessed(suspended)....

And as soon as the Senate adjourns the hearing will crank up again.

I find it interesting that Sen. Grassley and Sen. Specter are asking legitimate questions, and the Repubs file a procedural objection to the Hearing which shuts it down.

So who would you expect to have ended this hearing? My guess is Hatch.

And it was a critical time, as Sampson was giving information on meetings that implicated the White House. Someone did not want him elaborating on who was present at those meetings and what was discussed.

IMHO this will backfire on the Repubs. It will just draw more public attention. So why do it? It had to be the content of what Sampson was about to reveal.

[debbierlus]

48. I agree - they are simply buying time

You can only tell 2 maybe 3 gazillion lies before the story falls apart. These people are in VERY serious trouble. They are going to work to put off the inevitable as long as possible. Pathetic.

[durtee librul]

Too bad Ronnie Raygun purged all of Orrin's

past 'bad habits' from the public. It would serve him right if stuff from his past came out and played BOO with him right about now.....and no, I won't go into any detail, but anybody from Utah from about 20 years ago should be able to dig it up. Pretty sad, but then again, I guess it's true what momma always said, birds of a feather flock together.

Orrin's 'karma' is about to catch up with him as well.

[WiseButAngrySara]

161. Oh, Please Tell! ...n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

89. It would only be a bad sign it Republican Senators brought their sleeping bags

. . . and tried to make this the first committee hearing ever to be filibustered.

[Justice Is Comin]

Hearings and Senate and House

conducting parallel business goes on constantly in the congress. Otherwise there could never be any hearings. That's why the damn committees are there.

This is a deliberate "side bar" by the republics to regroup.

Leahy left the paranoia of guilt on their scheme right where it should be.

[rodeodance]

30. anyone hear anything interesting from the talk shows?

[bdamomma]

they are talking about it on AAR

someone in the Senate apparently objected to this hearing. Coming from the Senate, the Committee did not ask the Congress for consent. Oh, oh,

A republican senator objected because the committee did not ask for unanimous consent.

[rodeodance]

36. consent for what?

[bdamomma]

65. not to be rude, I think it was mentioned why with the postings

above, but the Repigs stopped the hearings because the Senate was in session, that does not sound right to me. or they didn't ask for unanimous consent. if I understood that right, I don't know but something stinks.

[robinlynne]

155. It was something about going on longer than planned. That's all. Obviously they

used the rule to stop the hearing.

[Robbien]

52. The committee needs unanimous consent to have a hearing?

Committees have hearings all the time when congress is in session.

This is nonsense

[bdamomma]

84. I think Sampson step in something that the Repigs wanted to

cover up which probably or does point the finger at the WH. Suspended hearing at the moment is what I heard.

[bdamomma]

31. they are talking about it on AAR

someone in the Senate apparently objected to this hearing. Coming from the Senate, the Committee did not ask the Congress for consent. Oh, oh,

A republican senator objected because the committee did not ask for unanimous consent.

[Chimichurri]

self-delete. wrong placement

[bdamomma]

37. Leahy is talking now, Thom Hartman got a report from someone

who was at the hearings.

[originalpckelly]

129. Damn Specter!

WOW!

:wow:

[helderheid]

39. BACK!!

[Ediacara]

40. HEARING RESUMES

Durbin asking questions.

What happened to Grassley?

[rateyes]

44. Great minds,

ask the same question!!

[rodeodance]

47. Grasley went to chew on some grass on the pasture.

[Ediacara]

51. LOL

[orleans]

80. did it resume or is cspan rerunning the first part? (i was on the phone) n/t

[Ediacara]

90. During the recess, C-Span replaying his opening statements, then...

the WH press briefing, but then broke into that with the resumed meeting starting with Durbin's questions.

[rateyes]

42. Back up..

Durbin asking questions. What happened to Grassley?

[flyarm]

49. Fitzgerald questions!!

[flyarm]

54. performance questions about Fitzgerald..sampson did not rate him!!

[flyarm]

68. Sampsons doesn;t remember rating Fitzgerald..he didn't touch it..

Durbin asks if he was worried about giving a good rating of Fitzgerald...to the White House...

asking did he not want to go out on a limb about Fitz...Durbin asks was anyone considering removing Fitz..and Sampson said he raised Fitz with Harriot Meirs..and then realized it was inapropriate

Meirs just looked at him and worried about it after he said it..and Sampson says he realized it was innapropriate..

Fitz never appeared on the list..sampson said..

fly

[Eurobabe]

45. Durbin talking about Fitz?

[Ediacara]

46. Sounds like it!

[Ediacara]

55. He says that because Fitz was involved in a controversial case, he rated him "neutral"

ON EDIT: Durbin's not buying it, asks why the Dep AG thought he was fantastic and why Sampson rated him "neutral"

Sampson doesn't remember even rating him, but knew he was in a controversial case, says he thinks he's a good USA.

[steve2470]

57. GOP Senator who stopped hearings, anyone know ? nt

[rodeodance]

60. no i have not heard WHO

[GreenPartyVoter]

99. I thought it was Hatch??

[rodeodance]

58. Republicans Stop Sampson Hearing... And Then It Starts Again

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject Republicans Stop Sampson Hearing... And Then It Starts Again
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3187704#3187704
3187704, Republicans Stop Sampson Hearing... And Then It Starts Again
Posted by babylonsister on Thu Mar-29-07 01:43 PM

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002913.php

Republicans Stop Sampson Hearing... And Then It Starts Again
By Paul Kiel - March 29, 2007, 2:40 PM

While Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) was talking, Senate Judiciary Chairman suddenly interrupted him to say,

"we've just recevied word that the Republicans have objected under the Senate rules to this meeting continuing. I think that's unfortunate, but I will follow the rules of the Senate... The Republicans are the ones who don't want to have the hearings, the Republicans have the right under the rules to do that.... we will stand in recess until the Senate recesses."

Whatever the disruption, apparently it was immediately reversed. Republicans are saying that it was based on a misunderstanding. Now we're back on.
Permalink | TOPICS: U.S. Attorneys
ADVERTISEMENT:

[Mist]

85. MORE "misunderstandings"? What bullshit. nt

[Solly Mack]

59. back to his "I don't remember"

[Lint Head]

61. Sampsonjustfucked himself.

If he looked over Fitzgerald because he was involved in a sensitive case that means they were considering politics and it involved people in the White House.:dem:

[helderheid]

He just fucked himself BIG TIME and he knows it.

[quiet.american]

82. To almost every "yes" or "no" question, Sampson replies "I don't remember." n/t

[bdamomma]

97. oh geez, this is the code of silence issued by the bush crime family

do not say anything shit.

[Ediacara]

87. good catch!

[Cameron27]

62. Were you concerned about giving him a postive rating

Ohhh this guy's slippery.

[Blackhatjack]

63. All it took was a few minutes in the hallway to remind Sampson he does not remember.... n/t

[IChing]

73. Interesting there was a consultation for sure.

I hope reporters were following him

[helderheid]

66. He is LYING

[rodeodance]

71. twitch twich

[shanti]

77. yes, his body language gives him away

the highpitched voice and the pursed lips...

[Solly Mack]

67. He regrets....and he has made mistakes...and he's sorry

hehehehehehehehe

[shanti]

83. don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness

seems to work for them, doesn't it? :eyes:

[Solly Mack]

86. Yes, it does

[rodeodance]

69. I think this is the applicable Senate rule:

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject I think this is the applicable Senate rule:
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x533203#533203
533203,


I think this is the applicable Senate rule:
Posted by BuyingThyme on Thu Mar-29-07 01:44 PM

5. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of the rules, when the Senate is in session, no committee of the Senate or any subcommittee thereof may meet, without special leave, after the conclusion of the first two hours after the meeting of the Senate commenced and in no case after two o'clock postmeridian unless consent therefor has been obtained from the majority leader and the minority leader (or in the event of the absence of either of such leaders, from his designee). The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall not apply to the Committee on Appropriations or the Committee on the Budget. The majority leader or his designee shall announce to the Senate whenever consent has been given under this subparagraph and shall state the time and place of such meeting. The right to make such announcement of consent shall have the same priority as the filing of a cloture motion.

(b) Each meeting of a committee, or any subcommittee thereof, including meetings to conduct hearings, shall be open to the public, except that a meeting or series of meetings by a committee or a subcommittee thereof on the same subject for a period of no more than fourteen calendar days may be closed to the public on a motion made and seconded to go into closed session to discuss only whether the matters enumerated in clauses (1) through (6) would require the meeting to be closed, followed immediately by a record vote in open session by a majority of the members of the committee or subcommittee when it is determined that the matters to be discussed or the testimony to be taken at such meeting or meetings

http://rules.senate.gov/senaterules/rule26.php



If it's already been posted, let me know.

[slipslidingaway]

109. thanks! n/t

[quiet.american]

70. Sampson's answers make absolutely no sense in regard to his rating of Fitzgerald.

Didn't want to rate Fitzgerald because he was prosecuting Libby? Even though he knew he was a strong prosecutor? But still rated him as undistinguished?

[Raven]

75. This guy is bureaucratic pond scum. n/t

[Solly Mack]

76. He's attempting to fashion a lie around the evidence

and his constantly changing story after each "I don't recall"

[Cameron27]

72. I said Patrick Fitzgerald could be added to this list.

And there was no response?

No

[helderheid]

74. They looked at me like I'd said something inappropriate, and I had

[WinkyDink]

81. "Ssshhh!! You KNOW we mention Fitz only in off-WH e-mails, you NIT-WIT!"

[rodeodance]

78. Sampson Admits He Made Call To Silence FBI Complaints Over Lam's Firing

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Sampson Admits He Made Call To Silence FBI Complaints Over Lam's Firing
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x532912#532912
532912, Sampson Admits He Made Call To Silence FBI Complaints Over Lam's Firing
Posted by Hissyspit on Thu Mar-29-07 01:23 PM

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/29/sampson-feinstein

Sampson Admits He Made Call To Silence FBI Complaints Over Lam’s Firing

During today’s hearing, Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) questioned Kyle Sampson about the head of the FBI office in San Diego, Dan Dzwilewski, who told reporters in January that Carol Lam’s firing was a blow to efforts to prosecute ongoing cases.

At a hearing with FBI Director Robert Mueller this week, Feinstein said that Dzwilewski’s office had told her it had subsequently been contacted and “warned to say no more.” Under questioning today, Sampson acknowledged he had made the call to complain about Dzwilewski’s statement. But Sampson said he had merely “asked…why an FBI employee was commenting on that issue.” Watch it:

Also today, Sampson claimed that the “real problem” with Carol Lam that Sampson referred to in an email “was her office’s prosecution of immigration cases.”

Feinstein told Sampson, “It is a real surprise to me that you would say here that the reason for her dismissal was immigration cases.” She then revealed a letter of commendation to Carol Lam dated Feb. 15, 2007, signed by the director of field operations of the United States Customs and Border Protection Agency. She read some excerpts to Sampson:

- snip -

The letter (see a full copy HERE) concludes, “I speak for my entire staff when I say that we are honored to have had the privilege of working with you and your staff for the past four years. … Again, thank you for your support; you will be missed.”

MORE

[Chimichurri]

79. "Patrick Fitzgerald could be added to this list"

why did you put him on this list

a. "I don't know, I think I wanted to get a reaction from them"

:wow:

[rodeodance]

88. Breaking: Leahy breaks for recess at Sampson hearing due to rules re: Repulicans object?

Forum Name Latest Breaking News
Topic subject Breaking: Leahy breaks for recess at Sampson hearing due to rules re: Repulicans object?
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2786435#2786435
2786435, Breaking: Leahy breaks for recess at Sampson hearing due to rules re: Repulicans object?
Posted by maddezmom on Thu Mar-29-07 01:18 PM

Source: NBC

will try to find a link ASAP.

Edited with a link thanks to sabra.

GOP senator halts hearing on attorney firings
WASHINGTON - A Republican lawmaker used a rarely invoked Senate procedure to halt the testimony of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ former chief of staff Thursday, NBC’s Mike Viquiera reported.

The move came just as members of the Senate Judiciary Committee reconvened a hearing in which Kyle Sampson told the panel that Gonzales, his former boss, wrongly stated he was not involved in discussions about the firings of federal prosecutors.

"I don't think the attorney general's statement that he was not involved in any discussions of U.S. attorney removals was accurate," testified Kyle Sampson, who quit this month as Gonzales' top aide. "I remember discussing with him this process of asking certain U.S. attorneys to resign."



Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17852146

[IChing]

93. Hopefully he is gonna melt watch it Leahy is going over the memos

and lists.

[Mist]

91. I think the silver lining to this Rethug cloud of obscuration is they CAN'T have coached

Sampson very thoroughly during that "break."

[rodeodance]

92. Senate Hearings Continue: Gonzales Signed Off On Attorney Firings

Forum Name Latest Breaking News
Topic subject Senate Hearings Continue: Gonzales Signed Off On Attorney Firings
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2786503#2786503
2786503, Senate Hearings Continue: Gonzales Signed Off On Attorney Firings
Posted by Hissyspit on Thu Mar-29-07 01:49 PM

Source: MSNBC

Ex-aide: Gonzales signed off on attorney firings
Democratic panel chair Leahy says Justice Dept. motivation was improper

BREAKING NEWS
NBC News and news services
Updated: 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales falsely denied he was deeply involved in the firing of eight federal prosecutors, his former top aide said Thursday, adding that the final decision on who was to be dismissed was made by Gonzales and President Bush’s former counsel.

- snip -

"I shared information with anyone who wanted it," Sampson said. Asked by Schumer if Gonzales' statement was false, Sampson replied, "I don't think it's accurate if the statement implies that I intended to mislead the Congress."

The hearing was briefly halted by Republicans using a rarely invoked Senate procedure, but reconvened shortly afterward.



Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17852146

[BuyingThyme]

96. I wish they had used the first sentence as the headline.

[Cameron27]

94. Iglasias not on any list before

Nov. 7th - Leahy

[flyarm]

95. where do they find all these people with amnesia?? so few ever have real amnesia..but

the * appointees all have it..so much amnesia..that i feel like i am the sad one, since i don't have that..i remember this stuff all too well...and shit i didn't get paid to know this stuff..in fact..i am just a flight attendant..not a lawyer who spent a life memorizing cases ..verbatum!!

wow..i guess i need to practice my ..memory lapses..the ..i forgotism!!

fly

[sinkingfeeling]

106. If I had a $ for every 'I don't remember' or 'I don't recall' that a Bushie has said in

hearings this week, I could retire a year earlier!!

[spooky3]

111. fortunately, Fitz has shown exactly how to deal with selective amnesia

I hope that the committee will do the same.

[flyarm]

116. pathetic isn't it??..these sob's memorize law cases ..its required to get their law degree

yet..the fuckers remember nothing about destroying others livelyhoods!!

disgraceful...and it only goes to show the political bullshit this administration has done to our government and nation..these assholes don't have to be qualified they only have to give great republican/neo con nazi blow jobs!!

fly

[IChing]

98. Leahy is nailing him on the documents and memos

going over the NM memos on Inglessia.

[steve2470]

100. LINK TO OFFICIAL SENATE RULES, for your research needs

http://www.senate.gov/reference/reference_index_subjects/Rules_and_Procedure_vrd.htm

[quiet.american]

101. I knew "I don't remember" would be the first words out of his mouth re: complaints about Iglesias.nt

[quiet.american]

104. I'm getting vertigo from the repeated use of the phrase "I don't remember." n/t

[Cameron27]

102. Where did those complaints come from?

The AG

and where did the AG get them?

from Karl Rove.

and where did Karl Rove get them?

I don't know

[WinkyDink]

103. From Rove to Gonzo to Sampson. Now, from whom to Rove??

"Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?!"

[Javaman]

105. Is it just me or does it seems like these tools are all trying throw each under the bus?

(to "another bites the dust")

And another ones gone
And another ones gone

another one under the bus...

[debbierlus]

112. Rove, huh?

But, he wasn't involved, so why would his name come up?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Oh, silly me. They are a bunch of lying scum. My bad.

[bdamomma]

128. just a wicked cover up, are cards falling down,

but there is that nasty situation in the Persian Gulf, will this distract us from these investigation hearings. The drum beat is picking up.

[rumpel]

107. btw, the senate judiciary server is up to max streaming capacity

"Server has reached its capacity and can serve no more streams. Please try again later.

rtsp://avs2.senate.gov/judiciary"


:)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=389&topic_id=532975&mesg_id=532975

[Javaman]

110. No soup for you!! nt

[rumpel]

113. got Cspan

hehe ;)

[Ediacara]

108. Specter up, asking about the Patriot Act provision

[bdamomma]

114. I hope Leahy gets him good

[orleans]

115. specter asking him about using the provision in patriot act to

circumvent the senate

i thought specter was the asswipe who slipped that piece of crap into the patriot act in the dark of night...didn't he?

[rateyes]

117. Yep. You remember correctly!! nt

[orleans]

123. the irony--so specter is pissed because this little freak wanted to use

the dirty tactic specter gave him basic permission to use.

kill me! (on edit: "kill me" is merely an expression)

[spooky3]

134. agree--see my post below

[rateyes]

163. Nah, Specter's pissed because

he got caught!

[Breeze54]

122. Spector puts me to sleep...

He's very hard to pay attention to!

[bobthedrummer]

118. Request for starting thread 8

[IChing]

133. ditto

[Cameron27]

119. Weren't you suggesting use of the Patriot Act to run out the clock

and never have these replacement attorney's confirmed by the Senate?

[IChing]

120. Specter is going over the clause of the Patriotic he wrote

[The Witch]

121. Stop it Specter, this is how you give me false hope about you

:cry: he always lets me down, like a bad boyfriend :cry:

[helderheid]

125. LOL!!!

[spooky3]

126. I think Spector is also CYA for his own provision of PAct

AS wants to be able to say that the Senate never intended for it to be used in this way, etc., so don't blame AS for it.

[WinkyDink]

127. I know. Big talker, Arlen is.

[quiet.american]

131. Oh, so, so right! - lol -- "like a bad boyfriend." n/t

[quiet.american]

145. Dupe. n/t

[The Witch]

132. OMG Specter is tightening the noose here

If you pursued this for 3 months, that means higher-ups may have been considering it!

:wow:

[fooj]

135. Just so you don't fall in the trap again...LOL!

robinlynne posted this...

interesting email on page 21 of part 4:

january 25, 2007
from: Rebecca Seidel to: 10 DOJ people

re: SJC hearing on USA firings
(the first hearing, february 2007)

"just got off the phone with Matt miner on Specter's staff who called to discuss the hearing. He said we will be getting an invite shortly. Has there been further thought on the DOJ witness?
He asked for a few things......

He is organizing a republican amendment strategy so the dems don't divide and conquer. he asked if we have any amendments to please draft and get them to him. I resent him the talking points (as he had given his copy away) he realized we had a lot of info in there.

so specter wants the DOJ to actually write the amendments, and uses their talking points directly. This says to me that he should be relieved of his position in this particular investigation! He is supposed to represent the senate, which is supposed to represent the people. If he gets his words from the people he is supposed to be investigating...
<snip>

He's a f*cking slimebag. Kick him to the curb, Witch! LOL!!!

[The Witch]

144. :singing I Will Survive:

go on now goooo
walk out the doooor
just turn around now
you ain't welcome anymore...

...

:cry:

oh arlen arlen why do you forsake meeee

[fooj]

152. LOL!

you think I'd crumble
you think I'd lay down and die
Oh no, not I
I will survive

:rofl:

[WiseButAngrySara]

162. LINKS? Is this a joke? ....n/t

[Tatiana]

139. LMAO! I know what you mean! n/t

[Cameron27]

124. Doesn't sound like a matter that's a staffer's idea

and the white house rejected it.

Specter stops him in his tracks.

[Vinca]

130. Time for Arlin to break out the waterboard. nt

[Javaman]

136. The new waterboard-O-matic!!!

twice the confessions in HALF the time!!!

[bdamomma]

137. I just started No 8 Thread on this subject

[orleans]

140. got a link? (smile!) n/t

[helderheid]

149. yes here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=533419&mesg_id=533419

[Javaman]

141. linkie? nt

[helderheid]

150. here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=533419&mesg_id=533419

[Pab Sungenis]

143. Link to it?

[helderheid]

151. here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=533419&mesg_id=533419

[bdamomma]

138. number 8 thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x533419

[DURHAM D]

142. Specter better stop being hard on boy child. He is going

to make the Orinator very angry. Hatch made a big deal out of the Dems not being rough on his boy - I guess he forgot to give the memo to his own side.

[flyarm]

146. Using the patriot act process..did you abuse the principle Spector asks..

you are working on it for 3 months..you are using the new statutory provision..and you come back in December, in bad faith ,circumventing senate approval....

do you think the WHiTE HOUSE would not use that provision for one district the one in Arkansas ...


sorry typing fast..

Mr Sampson this is a pretty big point..this is something that was very much on your mind..


Spector..you were aware of it after it passed ...

You never discussed using the Patriot act with the attorney general.. ??

and you planned to use it for one DA ...in Dec ..and it was rejected in Jan by the attorney general.....not rejected by the attorney general until after the emails...

ok thats the best i could do...

fly

[Beelzebud]

147. Too much bullshit even for Magic Bullet Specter! :)

[helderheid]

148. can we shut this thread down?

[BuyingThyme]

153. You guys are old hat.

[The empressof all]

154. locking

# 8 is here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=533419&mesg_id=533419

[BuyingThyme]

157. This is the first locked thread I've ever posted on.

:hi:

[helderheid]

158. me too!

:hi:!

[Jack Rabbit]

156. "I thinks that was accurate, but I'm not 100% sure."

Precious.

When does he just admit he's a liar.

[rodeodance]

159. Hatch is a con man!

[LaurenG]

160. A new thread has been started here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=534477&mesg_id=534477