James Dobson: Thompson must express faith

[rebel with a cause]

From Mary Snow
CNN


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- As senator turned actor Fred Thompson considers a presidential run, his Christian credentials are being questioned by Dr. James Dobson, a major voice among Christian conservative voters.

Republican strategist Rich Galen saw this as a positive thing.

"If I'm advising Fred Thompson, which I'm not, I'd say 'Good news! We're big enough that someone like Dobson has to pay attention to us,' " he said.

<snip>

Dobson has not endorsed any candidates. He told "U.S. News & World Report" that he thinks Gingrich is the "brightest guy out there" and "the most articulate politician on the scene today."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/29/dobson.thompson/index.html

Dobson likes Gingrich because newt admitted to him that he had an affair at the same time he was persecuting B. Clinton for doing the same. It seems that being a hypocrite is okay as long as you admit to it seven years later and when you are afraid it will be found out anyway.

[saltpoint]

1. I hope Thompson tells Dobson to cram it.

[Lint Head]

2. First he has to give up...

straight Jack Daniels and extremely young women. This is not a rumor. When country star Keith Whitley died of an alcoholic overdose Freddy was all over Lorie Morgan, Keith's widow, like a fly on a cow turd.:dem:

[BlooInBloo]

3. He'd be better off expressing intelligence, rationality, compasssion, and humanity...

... all things that preclude faith.

[provis99]

4. dobson is a degenerate

funny how he always expects Republican candidates to yap about religion in public, even if they are engaged in the most immoral, degenerate personal behavior at the same time. Haven't read the Bible for years, but didn't Jesus warn against those who parade religious belief in public, but are perverts? Something about true Christians are the ones who pray in their closet, I think.

[Lint Head]

5. When Christians pray...

they are talking personally to God. Why would you want to include strangers around you in your most intimate conversation with the supreme being? Maybe because some Christains are so insecure that want to let others around them know how pious they are.:dem:

[rebel with a cause]

7. You got it right.

In modern terms, It is better to lead by example than to brag about the good you do. If you live a life that is beneficial to others, it will be noted and others will want to be like you. But if you brag about what you do, you have undone all your good because you bring shame on those you help and resentment on you. Also if you stand on the street corner and scream at each passerby, they will probably hurry to get away from you, but if you speak good about others people will be draw to you.

Also, if you pray to god, he will listen, if you pray to god so that others will hear and be impressed, no one listens.

How a country preacher might explain it. ;-)

[Lint Head]

14. Jesus led by example an prayed to God privately.

He was overheard praying privately in the garden of Gethsemane. Of course he prayed for the sick and poor and he did it in their presence but not to prove anything to the groupies around him. He wanted results.:dem:

[LostInAnomie]

6. I would love it if he would say...

... "I am secure enough in my faith as a Christian that I do not feel the need to bow down and kiss James Dobson's ring. I only answer to God."

That's all it would take. If he and another candidate like Rudy would say that in public King Dobson's strangle hold would be broken.

Of course, that would mean Republicans would have to actually grow a pair, and bravery is not something Repukes are known for.

[Sherman A1]

8. Well Said!

[MN ChimpH8R]

9. This fuckwit has no authority to demand that anyone

"must" do anything whether it's Fred Thompson or the guy who restocks the sodas at 7-11. Asshat. :grr:

[gkhouston]

10. what would Dobson know about faith? n/t

[AlCzervik]

11. Dobson should follow his own advice.

[Vox Acerbus]

12. If there is any God

Dobson's hypocritical soul will be littering hell where it belongs. The man's a total hypocrite. I grew up in a Christian environment and while I don't buy a lick of it, the god they believe in, and certainly Jesus Christ, would be repulsed by Dobson.

[Cha]

13. It's a good thing I'm not running

for Prez..I'd tell that meglomaniacal hypocrite to shove it up his lyin' ass.

[rebel with a cause]

15. Probably why it wouldn't do us any good to run.

I'm not a good enough liar, or care enough what the next guy thinks of me, to be good at politics. I suspect you might be the same.

[juno jones]

16. From the sermon on the mount

I am not a christian, but in choosing my path, I have paid attention. I have been reading the sermon on the mount a lot lately. This is who Jesus is for me. I don't know where the people who identify with the Christian brand get their version:


"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites
are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the
corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say
unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and
when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;
and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.:

on edit I add:

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his
brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:

[rebel with a cause]

17. Yes that is who he is for me also.

I was awkwardly trying to paraphrase his words somewhat in my one earlier post. The way I thought the country preachers I grew up with, one being my father, would have explained it. Some of the so called Christians of today have no idea of who Jesus was and why the religion they are involved in is supposedly based on his teachings.

[juno jones]

19. thank you

for bringing it to mind, I guess the goings on of late have put me in mind of it, and the threads here made me go and look it up.

[Mz Pip]

18. Any Christian

should not need the approval of James Twit Dobson to reinforce or validate their belief system. Who died and made Dobson standard bearer of the faithful?

McCain was right the first time around when he called these bigots out. Now he can't pander or backtrack fast enough. I would love to see one Repug candidate refuse to grovel to the likes of Dobson. Fat chance. Am waiting to see how Thompson handles this.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Colobo]

20. Who the heck Dobson thinks he is?

[Breeze54]

21. I wish Thompson & Dobson

would take a long walk off a short pier.

Go pound sand. Aggitate the gravel.

Make like a tree and leave.

idiots.

[SeattleGirl]

22. I'm so sick of faux Christians in their tighty whiteys, telling everyone

else what the MUST do. Hey James, why don't you tend to your own business, and let Fred Thompson, and the rest of us, tend to ours, ya pig.

[Mandate My Ass]

23. I'll bet ole Fred sings the Lord's praises daily. Have you seen his wife?

:evilgrin:

[rebel with a cause]

24. Yes, and I will hold my comments

because I can't say anything that positive except that she is young. ;-)

[BlooInBloo]

25. Got a pic?

[Mandate My Ass]

26. Sorry, I'm unable to post photos at this time

IIRC, I think her name is Jeri Kehn and she looks like his very busty, blonde granddaughter.

[BlooInBloo]

31. Holy crap! She looks like a porn star!

&img=0&search=Jeri%20Kehn&cat=all&tt=&bool=phrase

[Mandate My Ass]

34. Yup, that's the little missus

I wonder if his grown kids call her "mom." :rofl:

[BlooInBloo]

37. Yowsas! I'd call her sumthin! lol!

[rebel with a cause]

35. Why I chose to say nothing. (ha)

Here is their wedding picture and she looks younger and less porn starish. Cannot post pictures but here are links.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54893

Thompson, 59, has known Kehn, 35, since they met on the Fourth of July in 1996. The couple is departing this weekend for France for a honeymoon. (this was in 2002)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2002/06/29/thompson.htm

Republican Family Values: Fred Thompson's Trophy Wife (another photo)

http://wonkette.com/politics/divorce/republican-family-values-fred-thompsons-trophy-wife-247154.php

[Canuckistanian]

32. I have one

She's a bit camera shy. This is the one and only shot of her I could find.

[rebel with a cause]

36. I just posted the link to this one.

I found their wedding photo also, but cannot post photos. :shrug:

[ToeBot]

27. Kiss that Ring!!

or as Bob Dylan said: "Ya gotta serve somebody"

[Initech]

28. Bow to your sensei!!!

[Critters2]

29. If I had a dime for everytime the "real" Christians have told me I'm not one

I'd be rich as a televangelist.

I'm no fan of Thompson, but he should tell Dobson to go to hell.

[Colobo]

30. Dobson is like the American version of the Pope, isn't he?

[FyurFly]

33. Jesus would NOT like Dobson n/t

[ComerPerro]

38. and DUers are defending Thompson, why?

[rebel with a cause]

40. I don't think anyone is defending Thompson,

just attacking dobson. B-)

[FyurFly]

41. Thompson is a conservative...

Dobson is PURE EVIL!

[ComerPerro]

43. there are a lot of people who would say Thompson's views make him not a "true" christian

mainly his selfish and antiquated conservative views.

I find it interesting that a community that often accuses RWers of not being "true Christians" is now saying that anyone who professes to believe in Christ as savior is by definition a Christian. I've said that exact same thing about Pat Robertson, James Dobson, and even Fred fucking Phelps and have been flamed for it.

I think that a lot of people pronouncing Thompson's piety now will be dismissing him as "not a true Christian" in the near future, if he is the nominee...

[AndreaCG]

42. We wouldn't like Dobson demanding to know the piety level

Of a Democratic candidate. In fairness, the Republicans should be treated the same.

If they turn out to be hypocrites as so many of them are then they're fair game.

[ComerPerro]

44. fuck em, they can eat their own, I couldn't give a shit. Dobson is a terrible person

but lets not forget, Thompson's social views ALSO make him just as horrible of a person

[Left Is Write]

46. But...but...he's a MOVIE STAR!

:rofl:

[Colobo]

48. We need to think beyond the scope of political tribalism

James Dobson's actions are a symbol of how dangerous the social conservative movement in the country is. They have basically hijacked the Republican Party, gradually converting what used to be in the 1950s and maybe 1960s a viable opposition, center-right party into the shithole it is today.

The problem is that as long as they manage to silence the true conservative, rational voices and promote the religious neo-cons they have been getting into the WH since 1980, we will always be in risk of having a president that will take us down the road we are going today.

[ComerPerro]

49. One: I have no interst in a so-called "true conservative". Two:

such "true conservatives" would take us down a very similar road to the evangelicals.


You have to understand, there is no such thing as a "true conservative", and even if there was, you wouldn't want them in power. Handouts to the rich and corporations, national sales tax to replace income tax, end of social programs, privitization of everything...

[Colobo]

50. I disagree with your views, but I surely respect them.

Still, we do agree that James Dobson is a dangerous guy.

[sakabatou]

39. And as we all know

Dobson is THE representitive of Christianty... :puke:

[Left Is Write]

45. James Dobson is one of those people who makes me physically ill.

I don't know if CBS still runs his little family advice minute at the end of The Early Show, but it almost always makes me angry.

Dobson first came to my attention on a parenting message board in the 90s. I've built up a lot of vitriol aimed at him in the meantime. He and his batshit-crazy compatriot Don Wildmon.

[ComerPerro]

47. well, just so long as you remember to beat your kids until they cry real tears