The US Attorney scandal REQUIRES investigation of Members of Congress ....

[Blackhatjack]

There is no way to get to the bottom of the US Attorney scandal without a full investigation of Members of Congress directly involved in the corrupt activities.

R-Pete Dominici and R-Heather are well known to have attempted to pressure the New Mexico US Attorney to assist with their reelection campaign by indicting Democrats just before the election even though there was no factual basis to do so.

However, there are other members of Congress who were directly involved in the Duke Cunningham scandal, who had a role to play here as well. Anyone think they were sitting quietly while Carol Lamm followed the money and contacts to their door?

It will take a full investigation that will result in Members of Congress having to leave office if we are ever to get to the bottom of this. Will other Members of Congress support that? If not, they are aiding and abetting the coverup of criminal activities, and deserve to be ousted themselves.

[Deep13]

1. Fuckin' ay, Bubba!

"Where the offense lies, let the great axe fall!" (from Hamlet)

[flyarm]

2. don't forget ArlinSpector sneaking the clause into the patriot act2

that the attorney generals could be removed and replaced without congressional confirmation and oversight!!

i swear Arlin has something in his background he is being blackmailed over..by rove and Cheney!!

I have my eyes glued on Arlin Spector..the slimy scum bag!!


fly

[madokie]

6. I agree with you, I'll go further and say I think the bush* crew are using blackmail as a tool

in their everyday doings. I don't think I can be convinced otherwise either. :grr:

[flyarm]

7. i believe that as well..and neither can i be deflected from that thought!!

let me say it in one name..Gannon!!

but i will never ever trust Spector..not since the Kennedy murder...

glad you are on board and not trusting ..we need skeptics..it is imperative to democracy!! ( my opinion, of course!!)

I believe this administration has succeeded by blackmail...and some heavy duty blackmail...


fly

[madokie]

8. You know its how they keep their grasp on power

the grasp on power is supposed to be us the Citizens of these United States not an individual but so many Americans are becoming used to some'one' having the power and that in itself is alarming to me.

[DearAbby]

18. It's like you have crawled into my

head, I feel the same way. That Rubberstamp congress was just too smoothe. What do they have on them.


Blackmail, I thought this for some time now.

[Raksha]

19. You're not the only one.

"Blackmail, I thought this for some time now."

Is that what the illegal warrantless wiretaps are really all about?

[robinlynne]

10. And more, if you read those emails, the second batch... Arlen was asking for

talking points from the DOJ to investigate the DOJ! Nobody mentions that email, but it was quite obvious.

[EVDebs]

15. Specter 'slips it in'

""Specter added that he only looked into how the provision was altered after Feinstein told him about it. As he explained, "I then contacted my very able chief counsel, Michael O'Neill, to find out exactly what had happened. And Mr. O'Neill advised me that the requested change had come from the Department of Justice, that it had been handled by Brett Tolman, who is now the U.S. attorney for Utah, and that the change had been requested by the Department of Justice because there had been difficulty with the replacement of a U.S. attorney in South Dakota.""...

"I did not slip it in and I do not slip things in. That is not my practice. If there is some item which I have any idea is controversial I tell everybody about it."

So, Specter concedes that the item is controversial. He denies knowing about it. That implies it was O'Neill who slipped the new language in, and misled Specter and the Senate. And yet, at least as far as I can tell, nobody in power has said a word about O'Neill's conduct, and not one iota of blame has been laid at his doorstep. Joe Conason noted in Salon last month that 1) O'Neill is a former Clarence Thomas clerk, and 2) he joined Specter's staff at the same time Specter was fighting accusations of being wobbly in his fealty to the White House.""


http://www.slate.com/id/2161260/

Why isn't Brett Tolman in prison yet ?
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/28/why-isnt-brett-tolman-in-prison-yet/

[Kagemusha]

3. So um who's going to investigate them.... the Department of Justice?

No, seriously. There were howls of outrage here and elsewhere when it was Rep. Jefferson's turn (the "cold cash" case). Who's gonna investigate these people? Congress itself? I won't hold my breath. Lam's replacement? I won't hold my breath.. unless they're Democrats under investigation.

It's not an easy situation.

[solara]

4. Yep..Yep.. couldn't agree more

:kick:



INVESTGATE IMPEACH INDICT INCARCERATE :patriot:

[napi21]

5. This is one, and only one thing I agree with Buchanan on.

Several times, on Scarboro's show, he said Congress should bring their OWN Domenici and Wilson before the Committee and point blank ask them "What were you after with those phone calls?"

I agree! I have no idea why they haven't done this already!

[tridim]

9. Because they're hiding crimes?

Occam's Razor.

[robinlynne]

11. Those two already hired Duke Cunningham's lawyer. i'm sure they forgot why they

called.

[EVDebs]

14. Cunningham's attorney, Mark Holscher ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Cunningham

Holscher's bio & pic
http://www.omm.com/webcode/navigate.asp?nodehandle=31&idContent=1375

[robinlynne]

16. looks like it. I only remember reading that they hired Duke Cunningham's attorney.

what a sleaze bag this guy must be.

[Blackhatjack]

12. There is an opportunity here that did not exist before to investigate Congressmen...

You follow the wrongdoing to the Department of Justice and all the way to the White House. However, in that process you obtain evidence that members of Congress were complicit, and follow those leads to other 'non-Congressional' entities. Why?

Because rules of the House and Senate respectively carefully circumscribe how a member of that body may be investigated by the body. But if you are conducting 'oversight' of the Executive Branch and you happen to 'run across' the wrongdoing of the House/Senate member, then you follow the trail 'through that member' to other guilty parties and/or evidence.

For example, you examine every person in the Republican Party and the Bush Administration and White House regarding their conversations and communications with Domenici and Wilson regarding their part in the US Attorney firing scandal. IF you find enough direct evidence of involvement by these members, you call them to testify under oath. They will object as members according to the rules. However the counterargument is that they are mere witnesses to wrongdoing, like witnesses at an automobile accident, and to get to the truth they have to do their duty and tell what they know. Once placed under oath they are in jeopardy, and invoking the 5th Amendment privilege would mean they would have to resign.

Over the last 6 years, the chances of this succeeding was exactly zero. Now that the Democrats have the majority control, the presiding Democrat can approve this.

Will it step on Democrats toes regarding their own members' wrongdoing? Most likely. Is it worth it? Yes.

THere is no other way to get to the bottom of this scandal and hold those who planned and implemented it responsible.

Waiting for the Department of Justice to investigate this will mean waiting until 2008, and after new US Attorneys are appointed by a new Democratic President. Evidence, individual availability, and 'more memories' will be lost if we wait that long.

[EVDebs]

13. The Octopus that Casolaro and Webb were investigating:

"It's all part of a growing ongoing investigation into corruption in defense and intelligence contracts, which already has sent former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham to prison and, legal sources say, may threaten others in Congress and the CIA. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12634250 /

MAY threaten others in Congress and the CIA. Ya think they're going to just sit back and NOT obstruct justice ? No way. They'll try to remove the US Attorneys who might be looking under their rocks. They're going to say 'national security', they're going to say 'performance' instead of obstruction, they're going to lawyer-up and stonewall, they're going to get away with destroying our democracy.

NOT !

[seemslikeadream]

17. and then maybe there will be another war

and no time for investigations of anyone