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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 08:46 PM Original message |
My daughter *was* going to buy a new car.. Until today.. An example of trickle down.. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. No you are being wise. The bank bailouts may well bankrupt the US.An additional worry is |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. That is my gut feeling too |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. I don't think there is any "may" about it.. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. You need that R and R break they used to give soldiers in Vietman before sending them back to fight |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. This kind of thing will be with us for a while |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. They have gone into complete spend-as-little-as-possible mode.. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. That's the safest way to live these days.. as debt free as possible |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
67. "We are battening down the hatches and rigging for heavy financial weather." |
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Salviati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Of course one needs to live within ones means... |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. I hear what you are saying. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. we haven't felt all the multipiers from |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. I made a HUGH discovery some years ago. I'm SIRIUS!!1! |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Wasn't that way when you were young though was it? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. I had to give up my Valiant (convertible) when I was drafted. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Two trannnys and a short block in 100k? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. No, I DON'T call it reliable. It does, however, make me appreciate 'reliable.' |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Gotcha. Sorry, I misunderstood. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
69. Is that John Voit's old car? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. His was a 1989 model. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. The engine and transmission are in pretty decent shape.. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Been there, done that |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. I've been fixing my car for twenty some odd years. |
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kcass1954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. We had the engine in our F150 rebuilt last summer. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. You just brought back memories. There was a time when folks |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I remember that time ... and it was when folks did a lot of their own maintenance. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. So true. I remember that my mother only had one 'new' car |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Same for my mother. It's a 1977 Monte Carlo. She still has it, even though she can't drive anymore. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. You should drive that in the Woodward Dream Cruise! lol. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. We did ... 2 years ago. It's nothing compared to MOST of the cars, though. (Don't tell my mother.) |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Good clean fun and good times had by all. Those were the |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
53. YOUR INCOMPENT! |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. I regret that I had mistaken Lockheed in Georgia as 'non union' ... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Thanks for the good wishes.. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. Shows you how hard it will be to change the military-industrial complex |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Good people will be hurt when we get rid of useless weapons. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Oh I agree, but it shows how hard change will be |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. The trouble is that weapons systems are among the last major things |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. You are right |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. How come trickle-down only works when times are bad? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. because you don't know what you've got.. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
57. I think you're the first person ever to use Cinderella lyrics to explain economic theory. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Because shit rolls downhill.. |
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pnutbutr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 06:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
76. It's a temporary patch |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
24. It's not the tightening of the family's budget but a choice |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Define "foreign".... |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. If you notice |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Sorry, I guess I misunderstood you.. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. $2006 x 3 is pretty cheap for that new car... |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. never roll over the debt |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. DMV fees and insurance are much higher for a new car. |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
33. This is part of why Eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Great point, thanks for posting.. n/t |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
38. I've been wanting to buy a Chevy for the last 4 years, |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
42. We need the new 'space race' - Instead of building Raptors he can build LMs. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. how about we build healthcare for all instead? |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. A good idea, but it won't help many people find/replace jobs in the aerospace industry. nt |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. ultimately that is just too bad |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Is there something militaristic about going to the moon? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. yes google High Frontier |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I agree, the MIC is a piss poor social welfare system.. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. No. But using that money.... |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Or designing and building... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
46. Was she looking to buy a Japanese car, by any chance? nt |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
65. LOL.. She doesn't listen to me.. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 06:17 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Yes, I recall your position on the matter. Which makes me wonder why you'd think people would care |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 06:25 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Actually I do care.. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 06:34 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Just not enough to support them with your purchases. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 07:06 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I've never argued that people should not buy good products made by Americans.. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 07:15 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. OK, then maybe we agree more than disagree. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 07:29 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Theres a good chance that Honda was assembled in the US.. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 07:52 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. You can make that argument about any worker. |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
50. My heart bleeds for her |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Is your heart also going to bleed for all the people who will lose income because of the lost sale? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
51. Hopefully, builders of weapons can be channeled into new productive technologies. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
52. Same thing is happening in Fort Worth as well |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. the Marines aren't flying the f-22 |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
54. Those of us with jobs are spending less because we're fearful our job could be next |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
62. Same with us. My 1999 Civic is still doing fine but before things got really bad |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
64. why would you ever buy a new car? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I wouldn't personally... |
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pnutbutr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
74. That's not trickle down |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
81. good thing they hadn't gotten a car already, i'd say. but |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 07:52 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. . |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
84. Gates said there will be 3x as many jobs created from new F35 production as jobs lost from less F22s |
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