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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:41 PM
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Would those familiar with organic pet food please post information?
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 07:07 PM by DeepModem Mom
Here is a link to an AP article:

Recall expanded to some dry cat food
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070330/ap_on_go_ot/pet_food_recall

"....Meanwhile, Hill's Pet Nutrition recalled its Prescription Diet m/d Feline dry cat food. The food included wheat gluten from the same supplier that Menu Foods used. The recall didn't involve any other Prescription Diet or Science Diet products, said the company, a division of Colgate-Palmolive Co...."

Also, is organic pet food safe?


ON EDIT: Thanks so much to all who are posting in this thread. I just heard anecdotally of a Beverly Hills vet's office that sells Hill's Prescription to patients and is being deluged with calls. I'm sure they were caught off guard, and are reading from a prepared statement that they can't assure that Hill's Prescription is safe.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:43 PM
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1. Is Prestige Dog Food one of them?
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MsFlorida Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:44 PM
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2. Merricks - Organic Dog & Cat Food
http://www.merrickpetcare.com

Dry, Canned, and Treats. Phoebe Pug and Paris the spoiled chihuahua both seem to like.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:47 PM
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4. Thank you!
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MsFlorida Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:48 PM
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6. should mention that all ingredients are human grade
one of the things I was looking for for my fur kid. If I wouldnt want to eat it why would I want to feed it to my little dog.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:50 PM
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9. Agreed!!!
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:46 PM
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3. A very "organic" friend of mine sent me this link...
... during this crisis. I can't vouch for the food, yet. I Can vouch for the friend.

http://www.healthypetnet.com
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:48 PM
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5. Thank you!
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denese Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:44 AM
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62. that's what we feed our animals n/t
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:48 PM
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7. My cat got sick from the dry food
My vet said no dry food; especially no dry food by Friskies/Purina.

I fed her holistic Halo, and the frequent urination stopped, and her drinking tons of water stopped.

She does not like the holistic Halo brand wet cat food, because of to much vegetables. I gave her holistic Merrick wet cat food today, and she loves it. I am going to try holistic Azmira cat food, as well.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:49 PM
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8. Thank you, Philip!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:53 PM
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11. Paul Newman
trying his cat food - cats seem to like it.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:58 PM
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12. Thank you
will try if they make cat food.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:02 PM
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14. Thank you, emily!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:05 PM
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17. Damn. All I feed my cat is Purina Cat Chow Indoor Formula.
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 07:14 PM by BushDespiser12
has this been declared a possible poison? Damn this will kill me if I am poisoning her.
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:30 PM
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19. I don't know
My vet did not imply that it was poison; he just said that Purina/Friskies dry cat food -- is the worst cat food on the market to feed pets.

Then he prescribed a special diet of all wet food.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:12 PM
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22. OK. Thanks. Guess I had better contact my local vet. n/t
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:44 PM
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27. alot of confusion
for years I had heard that Iams and Science Diet were the best of the GROCERY store foods. The implication of course is that grocery foods aren't that great. Which I guess now is true. If your animals seem healthy though since NO PURINA is on the list I wouldn't worry about it. Purina's issues are quality of product and non-nutritional supplements, but if your cats have been on it for awhile with no ill effects I wouldn't worry. I have heard good things about INOVA if you want to go organic. The problem is switching food with cats can be a very delicate issue. Definitely talk to your vet though.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:56 PM
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29. Thanks Sue.
I have spent the last hour digging deeper. Purina has endorsed their product, and it does not contain wheat gluten. My cat has shown no ill effect, and my mind is more at ease. Thanks for your input and I will definitely look at Inova for better nutrition for her in the future.

I wish all of our kids good health, and better care from the purveyors moving forward.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:50 AM
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63. I use Purina One
dry food for my cat, and she's doing just fine. Wet food... I use Merrick or Blue Spa Selects. I also have some Max Cat. They've all been pretty good. She enjoys them, and I don't believe that any of them are a part of the recall, unless I am missing some thing. Oh... And Eagle Pack. (I buy in bulk, and I have foods fro, all of those brands.)

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 12:06 AM
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47. Iams sent me an email
I had subscribed to their website ages ago...They said that their company had tested the dry food after the wet food was found to be poisoned and they assured me it is safe. They say they do not use wheat gluten in any of their dry cat food anyway. But the FDA on TV said it had found melmine or something like that. Then I heard a doctor on TV say that they use this in some of OUR food. So I don't know what to think. I do thing that after Iams sent the email, they do find the food safe, because that would be a heck of a lawsuit if they told you it was safe and it wasn't.

They said they are trying to be sure that their wet foot never is contaminated again.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:16 AM
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60. I'm sorry but I just don't trust Iams anymore
Even if it was a different recipe how can your "premium" cat food be made with the same proceses as off brand labels? I think P+G in its effort to mass market Iams (only in grocery stores since P+G bought them) decided to cut corners. Thats a bigger issue to me than the actual safety of the dry food, which my guys were eating with no health effects.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:18 PM
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23. How about "Inova" which is all natural with no GMO's and Fillers?
I've fed my cats Purina Dry for years and Friskies with a little Fancy Feast for "treats." So far, the Purina, Friskies and Fancy Feast have not been on recall, but I bought a bag of Inova Cat Food because a friend convinced me that ALL Commercial Food is BAD...

They like the Innova but I know nothing about it except that "Naturalistic Pet Health Food" stores sell it. :shrug:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:26 PM
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24. This is so frustrating. No good information from our
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 08:39 PM by BushDespiser12
government resources. I will freak if it turns out that I am feeding tainted food to my baby.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:57 PM
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30. Thanks for the info koko. Much appreciated.
:hi:
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pushycat Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 10:38 PM
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43. My vet said Innova is a good choice. I switched last week.
My cat got Fancy Feast for years. Not sure if it is OK now so I stopped giving it to him. He loves Fancy Feast Sliced Turkey with the gravy...oh well.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:57 PM
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71. So far....Purina has on their website that Fancy Feast is okay....
and so is Friskies... I'm still using the "Fancy Feast" and so far both of my are okay...:shrug:

They've only been on the Inova for four days...so I'm just seeing how they do with that..and they were Purina One cats before..and Purina still says that their Dry Foods are okay. But, seems that every few days there's another new recall.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 06:52 PM
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10. My vet- who practices homeopathy, acupuncture and etc.
rec'd Old Mother Hubbard dog food and it has been just wonderful for all of our dogs.

Our first dog had skin problems for YEARS and the vet took one look at him and said to switch his food to this brand. His problems were COMPLETELY resolved in a couple of days. The vet had NO doubt in her mind that his problems were due to the food.

Every other vet had him on steroids, antibiotics and etc- to no avail.

Hope this helps!

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:02 PM
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15. Thank you, friend!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:15 AM
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67. My Buddy, ditto, but I'd switched her to homemade.
The skin stuff was gone in a few days and her coat got beautiful.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:00 PM
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13. Two brands that are excellent
Their websites have disclaiimers about their products and the current pet food poisoning:


http://www.flintriver.com/



http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/


pet food doesn't have to be totally organic, these two companies use people grade ingredients. Might cost a few bucks more, but in the long run you don't have sick animals from junk pet food.

I've used Flint River for over 10 years and can vouch for it. It's the only cat food that ALL my cats like. And my vets comment on my cats' teeth! I have really old cats so maybe that says something...?

Paul Newman claims to be organic but I read somewhere he was using Menu Foods for production... so you can't always trust "organic" not to be touched by this horrific scandal.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:03 PM
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16. Thank you, Ms. November
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:12 PM
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18. glad to share any info I can. I've had cats all my life and love animals

I am horrified about this pet food tragedy. They should be shut down and anyone who has dealt with the company. THEN we should keep after congress to demand regulations for not only pet food but people food. enough is enough!

:hi:

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:40 PM
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20. Do you have any more info on connection b/w Newman's and Menu?
Thanks ahead of time if you do. :hi:

I've been using Newman's cat food and another brand that COOP sells: Wellness.

A brand that COOP sells was on the Menu list-- Nutro Max. I checked the UPC and date codes (from Menu's web site) and they didn't match the recall. Won't buy that again anyway.

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:47 PM
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21. I just switched to Newman's. Crap.
I got a kind that doesn't have wheat in it, though.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:37 PM
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25. NB on Natural Balance:
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 08:41 PM by musette_sf
it is a GREAT food, no complaints on the quality.

however, the dry cat food DOES contain potatoes which may or may not be a problem for your pet.

a few months ago (NOT MELAMINE RELATED) one of my kids stopped eating, and was puking frequently, and so we took her to the vet. after a long conversation about the foods we fed, we determined that her problem was a sensitivity to some ingredient in her food. we did end up buying a huge bag of some prescription, small molecule, easily digestible, dry food from the vet. none of the ingredients looked too terrible so i was okay with this.

when i got home i went through the ingredients of everything we feed the four kiddos. when i found that Natural Balance dry contained potatoes, it was an intuitive hit -- i checked everything else and nothing else had potatoes as an ingredient. we removed the Natural Balance dry, and Cleo has been fine ever since. well, she did get a shot of cortisone at the vet because her little tummy hurt... but no recurrences since we removed the Natural Balance dry.

we replaced it with Wysong Vitality, and they all love that.

potatoes are in the nightshade family, so something to consider.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 10:51 PM
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44. Towards the end of my girls life,
she ate the Natural Balance for dogs (when we did not feed her real meat leftovers). She loved the NB mixed with the SciDiet dry and never had a problem. Of course she passed last year, before all this mess. My heart goes out to all pet owners who are dealing with this awful situation; I cannot imagine the pain some are experiencing with this. It's heartbreaking.

As for us, we are currently animal-less, in an in-between stage if you will. Between grief at losing a great companion, and hope at adopting another fur baby "one of these days." We should be there soon. I know this, because I'm starting to check out all the adoption sites. So is DH. Good sign. :-)

One thing I will be doing is researching pet foods beforehand, so this thread is a definite keeper. Thanks to all who posted info!
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 11:35 PM
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46. You'll know when you're ready and you'll know when you find the right one!
I lost Sally in September 2005 and was devastated. Just inconsolable. I waited about a month and a half to "look" again and thought it was a little soon, but I am single and live alone and have no kids and she was my only cat - the house was a little too quiet. I looked around on different sites and found a pair of brothers (I was hoping to get two at the same time) who looked wonderful - I took one home and he lasted about 20 minutes because the rescue home had spent no time with him and he was completely feral and mean. I felt bad for him, but it wasn't the right time for me to try to tame him - and I don't know that he could be tamed. So, I wondered into the Humane Society a couple of days later - and there was my Maggie, waiting for me! She'd just been put up for adoption that morning, so she was there for about 45 minutes before I walked in. She put her paw up on the glass to "meet" my hand" and I took her name down off the glass, walked over to the desk and told them I needed to meet this cat. It's been love ever since! :loveya:

(And one of these days soon she's going to get a sister too!)

So, take your time and the right one will come along at the right time for you - and I'll be so happy for you when it does!
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 12:17 AM
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48. AZBlue, thank you so much.
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 12:18 AM by susanna
Your kind words mean a great deal to me, especially since you relate so well to what I'm feeling. Well, I should say what we're feeling - my husband and doggie girl were inseparable, too; family, if you will.

I feel selfish that we haven't gotten a new pet sooner. Our girl died almost a year ago, but she was such a companion that it was exceedingly hard to even think of replacing her for a long while. I have now come to the place where I know no other dog can ever replace her, just a new one will win our hearts. So we keep looking...

One of our problems is we both work all day and dogs are VERY social animals. Our late dog was amenable to alone time - she was very independent - but that is not the case with 90% of dogs, so we worry about that. I have no fear we will find the right one, and I completely agree with you - we will know when we see them. I so look forward to that day, because I miss having a furry critter around to humble me in my self-imposed exalted humanness. ;-)

on edit: smilie overload.
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:01 AM
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50. You'll know when it's time.
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 02:21 AM by Pierogi_Pincher
AZBlue said also. Our boy passed on Mothers' Day 1995 from liver cirrhosis. He did have 20 yrs. of life tho. A lady friend from church kept asking me to take one of the stray kittens that she fed. I had to refuse 'cause it was too soon--my heart was fractured. I know it sounded nutty, but during his short illness, I wanted to switch places w/ him. I never knew I could have such deep love for one of God's little ones. We buried him at some friends' rural property since we were leasing at that time. They had a virtual pet cemetary there--she called it 'Petland'--they had pet dogs, kits, birds, ducks, goats and roosters of their own, living and also buried on the property. Our lady friend died in '98 and shortly after I brought myself to go to the local shelter to make a donation in her name. I had absolutely no intention of another pet. After writing a check, I asked if I could go see the doggies--I thot I could handle volunteering for them at least. Approaching the kitty room, I was strongly and mysteriously drawn in--I was powerless. I just took in all the little ones, enjoying them and actually praying over each one that they be saved. But there was one I couldn't tear away from. I opened her cage and held her. She was a bit shy, but there was somethin' about her. I called the hub to stop there & meet me after work since the shelter would soon close for the day. I showed him the little one that 'spoke' to me, and he loved her. But he knew I still didn't want another pet. Yet. All that night, I kept waking up--'Someone' was repeating her name. The next afternoon, I ran out and stopped the hub on the riding lawnmower, and breathlessly said, "I can't stand it anymore. I have to go & see if she got adopted", and he agreed. She was still there (they had a big adoption day going on). I leaned in the cage w/ her, telling her that my heart was still broken over our boy. Then a 'Presence' led me to look at the date she entered the shelter. My adrenaline rushed--she was there a month already, and my legs got weak when I realized what that meant. I ran to the desk, nearly tripping & falling, and blurted, " I want to adopt #!!" They said okay, we'll get you the paperwork (looking at me in a funny way!). I had to leave her there till the beginning of the week so they could have her spayed and checked at the doc's. I hated to leave her there. Came home & announced that we have a new baby girl! I felt like I had my own child--getting all the acoutrements for her. She had that awful collar so she wouldn't pick her stitches. That was the most trying three weeks I ever spent watching her, but worth doing it all over again! They bring joy untold!

Thank you for bearing w/ me in sharing this.

Love to y'all.
P_P

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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 01:01 PM
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68. That's a wonderful story!!
Thank you for sharing it - it put a smile on my face!
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:54 PM
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74. I smiled AND cried at the same time.
Definitely two thumbs up! :-)
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 12:42 AM
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77. With humility, I thank you.
Love to ya'll. :grouphug:

Reaching the brink of my endurance now w/ this latest recall of Purina. Ours has been getting their canned pate type food, & I just pulled it from the cupboard. Am getting highly steamed.

P_P
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:54 PM
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72. That's a great story.
It's said that the right animals find us, one way or another. Why are we drawn to one individual in a litter over all others? Why does a particular animal show up at our door? Why was only one left to adopt by the time we got there? Some believe that there are reasons. I won't get into all of the possibilities, but it sure sounds like this is what happened to you. Wishing you and your new kitty a lot of good years together!
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:54 PM
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75. You are spot on, IT - we get the ones we are supposed to, and I truly believe that. n/t
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 12:45 AM
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78. This is true. In the grand scheme of things, I believe, providential! n/t
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:52 PM
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73. Oh, P_P, what a lovely story you just told!
I completely understand, and your story just warmed my heart straight through. Thank you very much for sharing that with me. It helps more than you know. :-)

As for knowing when, yep - your heart just lets you know when you see the "one." People who don't have pets probably do not understand, but I certainly do. My girl that I mentioned was an Akita mix, and she was kind of mean. I am not saying this lightly - she was really a problem child, so to speak. I prayed a lot about that, because I felt she might not be trainable (and I had trained quite a few dogs in my day). She had me stumped, though! A real wild child, but goodness I loved her!

I know exactly what you mean about 'someone' telling you what you need to know when it all seems too hard. Mine was: "I picked this one for you. You will learn something you need from her." Funny thing was, I did. She taught me to be much more fearless and much more assertive. She taught me to draw boundaries and stick to them. She taught me to let them down when it was okay. In a nutshell, that beautiful dog changed my life. Which is why I am still waiting a year later! She is a tough act to follow. Don't worry, though, I know I will get another one. I am always humbled by the joy they bring into our lives, and look forward to sharing my heart with another fur baby soon.

Thanks again for such a moving post. It brought tears to my eyes, but in a good way. :-)
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 12:59 AM
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79. I was a bit hesitant in posting for fear of seeming self-indulgent and chatty,
but I was led to follow thru when remembering how others--yea, 'strangers', were gracious to me at our time of loss, I couldn't hold back. I even got 'ministered to' by a male futon sales associate who made me sit down in a nearby chair and relate my grief. I was blown away.

I am blessed by your story--how your baby brought what had to be a divine experience to your life.

Love to you,

P_P
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:43 PM
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83. You are a great person, P_P.
My girl did bring the divine back to me (I'd been lost). So yes, sometimes the best gifts come in furry packaging, and not always the coziest at that, LOL.

For the record, you were not self-indulgent OR chatty. You were a good human being relating a beautiful story. For that I thank you so much. It helped me when I didn't even know I still needed it. Bless you for that. :-)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:38 PM
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26. Here's a link..
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:11 PM
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33. Thank you, SoCalDem!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 01:46 AM
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49. I wish I could afford to feed my babies this food, but I feed EIGHT of the little rascals
and they will have to make do with Purina indoor Formula and Costco.

Thankfully, those are not on the list (I feed them only dry food)

However, i fear that the Mom of most of my babies may have eaten some bad food and died.

We have not seen her for a week now. She was impossible to tame...we trapped & spayed her & kept her inside for a month trying to tame her...no dice...so we had to release her.We fed her (dry as well) and provided her with fresh water and a comfy house with an old comforter & pillow inside. She always spent her day lounging in her house, but for a week now we have not seen her. We did not see any evidence in the neighborhood of her being hit by a car ...she was a pretty savvy cat (she's been around for almost 7 years)..

Since she was a "neighborhood cat", I fear that someone else may have been also feeding her, and lord knows what that might have been..

It's such a shame.. She was a beautiful white cat with black markings, but she was W I L D .. and would run at even eye-contact..

I can only take heart in knowing that I raised all of her babies (kept most of them) and tried to make her own life as comfortable as I could ...but I miss seeing that pretty face :cry:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 08:07 PM
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81. You went "above and beyond," SoCal -- bless you, and your babies! nt
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:55 PM
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28. and for those whose kids are ADDICTED
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 09:09 PM by musette_sf
to the cat food in the little pouches with the gravy...

mine are VERY unhappy because their Nutro Gourmet Max (i.e., MENU FOODS) pouches are gone and have not been replaced...

i was a moderately good parent, i did check the lots and dates on all the pouches we had in the cabinet. nothing matched the recall lots and dates, so i let them eat through what we already had in the cabinet.

but needless to say i will never buy Nutro anything ever again. i was definitely led down the primrose path by Nutro's previous reputation, and had no idea that they dealt with cheap-ass contract manufacturers.

OH HAPPY DAY, i have found another company with little pouches with gravy!!!

http://www.bynaturepetfoods.com/productpages/wetpouches_cat.php

i've just ordered them, and i am sure that as soon as the kids see POUCHES, that they will jump for joy.

meanwhile, they are trudging through the many flavors and varieties of canned natural and organic foods that we have been test-driving as replacements for their beloved Nutro pouches. so far no one really likes any of them :-(



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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:05 PM
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31. For kitty addicts....
My vet always said that the wet/canned is better than the pouches. She said she feels like the pouches are "kitty candy". My guys loooove wet food. I of course dumped out my Iams cuts and gravy and on the recommendation of a friend gave cans of Fancy Feast (I think its the special gourmet or something like that. Vets I have asked say Fancy Feast is okay. It does have wheat gluten but its not under recall and not made by Menu foods and looks nothing like the Iams/Nutro stuff. My guys lOOOOVE it. More than even the Iams. I have been calling it "kitty crack". Once they taste it they don't want ANYTHING else.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:08 PM
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32. thanks ...
but due to health problems of one of our other kids, i don't feed anything that has meat by-products. all FF varieties to the best of my knowledge contain meat by-products. :-(
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:17 PM
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36. so sorry!
Its probably going to ba a rough go for you. I had an older cat with health issues that needed prescription food and it took ALOT of tries to find something acceptable. I finally did but I can't remember the brand name but I do remember it came from Canada so its probably a Menu food product..:(
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:21 PM
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37. i remember a Canadian brand of dry food
that *looked* really, really good based on the label and ingredients list... really high-end ingredients and price...

this was a few years ago...

they LOVED it... and then it was taken off of the market due to a similar situation. not as widespread as the Menu Foods debacle, but there were some pet deaths involved.

i don't think i will be buying Canadian pet food any more... sorry Canada :-(
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:12 AM
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59. heres irony...
that cat food, I had a hard time getting it for awhile after Canada found its first "mad cow" apparantly the FDA's ban on Canada imports covered the food then.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:12 PM
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34. Thank you, musette!
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:19 AM
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57. Am trying 'Natural Balance'.
The chicken/liver pate was eaten, but the subsequent variety of canned was licked & pressed down w/ the little tongue, and not much was eaten! The kibble is being eaten, but barely. I had to introduce water-packed people tuna which she'll eat and then had to revert back to some Fancy Feast canned-- but just chicken, turkey/giblets and liver/chicken. What to do, what to do? They make an Ultima (I think) canned & kibble which is next to try and mb some canned turkey or chicken (people). After that, I dunno.

My heart goes out to all parents and families of these little ones who have experienced loss or are going thru distress with concern for their furbabies.:cry:

P_P
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:15 PM
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35. anyone ever try Purina One Natural Blends?
it has been a VERY long time since i've fed Purina anything to my kids.

but Thom Hartmann has been doing an ad for an offer for a FREE bag of Purina One Natural Blends.

so because i trust Thom :loveya: i called the number in his ad and ordered the "Cat Kit".

of course you can get the same trial offer on their website, but let's support Thom's advertisers!

Purina One Natural Blends Cat Food - 1-866-380-MEOW

a recording of Thom will greet you and pass you through to phone registration.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:28 PM
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38. Tried it but
my babies wouldn't eat it.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 10:29 PM
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40. I just got a bag of that today
so far, so good. The cats seem to like it. The first ingredient is chicken and there is not a lot of fish in it and no wheat gluten to be seen either. It has spinach and some other good ingredients in it.

I think I'll give Tom Hartmann a call! :D

Thanks!

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 10:18 PM
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39. Hi DeepModemMom
What I've done is gone to various sites and ordered samples of the food. Sometimes, if you are lucky, they might send them to you for free, sometimes they cost a nominal amount.

I found a few samples of Flint River Ranch for sale on eBay FYI. You can also order a cat and kitten sample pack from flintriver.com for $3.75 (shipping included - max. of 3). They also sell dog food and samples as well.

I ordered another sample from HealthyPetNet.com of the Cat Sample Pack for $2.95 to cover shipping.

Maybe this is a good way to try the food out on our pets without taking any huge losses on food they won't eat might I suggest?

I have Innova Evo here myself (smallest bag I could find - they don't much care for the type in the larger red/rasberry colored bag that I bought a couple of months ago before this whole thing began). My cats seem to like it (I got it at the health food store). However they do miss that NutraMax Chicken and Senior foods I can tell.

Trail and error is the rule it seems, esp. w/cats. :)

I hope this helps!

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:11 AM
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53. Very helpful, CountAllVotes -- thank you so much!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 10:32 PM
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41. Pet Promise
petpromiseinc.com

I like that they name sources for their ingredients, which are organic and domestically produced.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:12 AM
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54. Sounds good -- thank you!
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 10:33 PM
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42. Here's a site with tons of organic and human grade cat food....
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 11:16 PM
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45. that is a great site
and I found a 10% off coupon to use on it too! I placed an order for a few small bags of different stuff.

Thank you!!! Highly recommend the site! :)

:kick:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:13 AM
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55. Great site -- thank you!
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:02 AM
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51. K&R n/t
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:10 AM
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52. It's not organic, but Canidae is made from human grade food, is reasonably priced (less than $1 lb),
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 02:11 AM by greyhound1966
and most of all it is safe. You can usually get it at smaller pet food stores (they don't make enough to supply the giant chains like PetSmart, PetCo, Wally world, etc.) so you're helping local retailers too.


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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:14 AM
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56. Interesting -- thank you!
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Lobster Martini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 06:21 AM
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58. Newman's Own Organics
I (and my dog) highly recommend Newman's Own Organics. They use good ingredients and the profits go to charities. Newman's Own is not in every pet store or supermarket, but it's not that hard to find. Here's the Web site: http://www.newmansownorganics.com/pet/home/
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:29 AM
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61. Thanks, Lobster!
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Lobster Martini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:00 AM
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64. With respect to responses #13 and #21
Newman's Own Organics claims that none of their pet foods are affected by the recall. If anyone has contradictory information, please post it.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:46 PM
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69. They use Menu Foods as a manufacturer. nt
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:06 AM
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65. Tiki Cat
http://www.petropics.com/catalog.htm

My Kiko loves this food, especially the sardine cutlets
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:10 AM
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66. I just put the kitties on Wellness deboned Chicken dry
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 03:53 PM
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70. Wellness dry isn't being recalled. but their canned foods are made by Menu
which means I won't buy any of their stuff.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 12:09 AM
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76. Here is a helpful list regarding foods
not on the recall list. It gives info on each brand, if it contains wheat gluten, if any is made by Menu Foods, if they use imported foods and more.

http://petsitusa.com/blog/?p=210
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 01:21 AM
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80. Very much appreciated.
This list makes sense--foods and their mfg. info. Now I find Natural balance kibble is mfg.'d by Diamond. Maddening!
P_P
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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 08:39 PM
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82. Petguard
I supplement my cats raw food diet with their products, which includes an organic line.
http://www.petguard.com/
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:46 PM
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84. delete. dupe. nt
Edited on Mon Apr-02-07 10:48 PM by mycritters2
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