Jonathan Alter on Countdown sending chills down my spine

[CatWoman]

he's laying out Rove's "grand scheme" of GOP dominance, using the US Govt. to get them there.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

1. Very scary -- validating what we have all known for some time

[Richard D]

2. Interesting

When I read your post the idea came to me that the GOP has nothing to do with the rovian plan for the world. It's just a tool.

[Cha]

3. Hope he writes about them in

his Newsweek column for all the world to see.

I know part of it is the firings of the USAttorneys and the hirings of the like vermin.

[Hissyspit]

4. "This gives us an idea of how they think and how they work."

[tblue]

5. Yeah, Randi Rhodes was all over it. Everything they do is all about staying in power

like the Third Reich. There is way too much money and power at stake to leave elections to the voters. How many ways does it have to be proven before the majority of Americans figure this out?

[originalpckelly]

6. "They almost turned our justice system into that of a Banana Republic."

:cry:

[eleny]

11. I keep expecting W to order us all to start wearing our underwear on the outside

[originalpckelly]

15. The problem is that now we know they've been trying.

If they're still in power, what's stopping them from going ahead?

We're finding out about this shit, and we will continue to find out about it.

They have no reason to be gentle and covert.

That's what I'm afraid of.

[eleny]

21. And we don't have to be gentle or subtle from now until the '08 election

You and I know just how many wingnuts there are here in CO. I plan on kicking them in the teeth with all this until my toes are black and blue. And then some.

[originalpckelly]

24. It's like Denver and Boulder are the blue oasis in a desert of red!

:rofl:

[TahitiNut]

13. It's more than "almost."

The corruption runs wide and deep.

[originalpckelly]

19. Yes, but I think what they were trying before was covert...

they didn't want people to know and I have a feeling they were planning on taking power slowly and gently. However, that's not going to work now.

We know what they're up to.

It's like a man who's just shot five cops, what's to stop him from shooting more? He's already going to get the death penalty, you can only kill a person so many times.

They are either getting close to having nothing to lose. (If they aren't already there.)

This is a very frightening thought.

[eleny]

7. I'm so glad he's commenting for MSNBC

I give some credit to Al Franken since he introduced me to Alter via his program. Before that I didn't know who he was among others. I wonder if his air time on the radio and ensuing popularity gave MSNBC the idea to hire him.

It's nice to see my faves like Alter on MSNBC and even Conason on Bernie Ward's radio show once in a while.

:hi:

[Cha]

Alter also has a

column in Newsweek.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/9274214/site/newsweek/

[Johnny Appleseed]

25. He's been writing articles for Newsweek for years...

and also released a book on FDR recently I believe. I think his background is in history(phd?). He is a fine writer and I always read what he has to say in his Newsweek column... which isn't weekly but still frequent enough.

[grasswire]

28. Alter has worked for MSNBC before AAR

I'll never forget election night 2000, when Alter was actually not working but came to the station and walked onto the NBC set to provide some balance to Russert and Brian Williams and Tweety, et al. He just walked on and stayed.

[stellanoir]

8. Ughhhh

Let 'em state the obvious.

That performance two nights ago said it all about the media's absolute complicity.

Ughhh again.

Gregory be damned.

[tblue]

10. David Gregory? What did he do that I missed?

[eleny]

14. Clapped and swayed on the stage while Rove rapped at the dinner the other night

[tblue]

27. Oh no he di-in't!

[Old and In the Way]

16. He got up and danced with Rove.

He looked like a marionette up there. Pathetic. How does he seriously think he can do his job after that demeaning performance?

[KoKo]

31. Yep...it was the "Pulling Heads of Animals" skit and Gregory was there

Rapping along with it all. After all he's always on IMUS...what else could one expect from him. :-(

[stellanoir]

I couldn't watch it

but I heard plenty.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x20943

He's not even worth 7 minutes of my time really.

[peacetalksforall]

26. It wasn't so bad because we now have a new name for him - 'the rapper'

As in ... 'the rapper was laying low today'.

Or we could call him Mistah Rappah

And we get to add another qualifier to our vocabulary - Rappian in addition to Rovian.

But, maybe we demean rappers. I wouldn't want to.

But, I didn't ask him to 'rap'.

Maybe we can just invent a new word to define his song and dance.

[stellanoir]

18. dupe delete please

don't know why that happened.

[Swede]

35. Your joking I hope,Gregory was dragged onstage by two comedians.

How soon they forget.

"NBC's David Gregory accused of partisanship for confronting White House with ISG findings"

On the December 7 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly said that Gregory is "a partisan," that he is using "loaded questions" and that "e has come to the conclusion that Iraq is a loser and bases his questioning upon that belief." O'Reilly added: "NBC News, as we mentioned, has turned sharply left. Mr. Gregory epitomizes this."

On the December 7 edition of Fox News Fox & Friends First, co-host Brian Kilmeade claimed that "t's all about David Gregory. It's never about the issue with that guy," adding that Gregory "talks to Tony Snow as if he wants to be famous and he wants John Kerry and Al Gore to be re-elected." Co-host Steve Doocy claimed that Gregory "never lets Tony Snow finish a sentence," called Gregory "Dick Gregory" and "Grouchy Gregory," and asked if "NBC ditch David because he's asking partisan questions."


Doocy and Kilmeade again raised Gregory's confrontation with Snow on the December 7 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends. During the discussion, pictures of both Snow and Gregory appeared onscreen, with Snow's photo containing more color, Kilmeade said: "Who do we like better, Tony or David? One is in color and one is in black and white." Co-host Alisyn Camerota said that Gregory was "monopolizing" all of the reporters' time, while Doocy claimed: "Maybe this guy is auditioning for one of those commentary shows."

On the December 7 edition of MSNBC's Scarborough Country, attorney and author Bob Kohn said, "hen he asks the questions of the Bush administration, time and time again, he does it in this insidious way that gets the kind of denial, and then he goes ahead on the news and says that that Bush administration denied today that they were stupid." Kohn later suggested that Gregory was "trying to put words in people's mouths."

On the December 7 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh, referring to Gregory's admission of not having read the entire ISG report, pretended to respond to Gregory as Tony Snow: "David, David -- when you get yourself informed here -- come back, ask me some questions, and I'll be able to talk to you. But if you're gonna stay ignorant on, on these things -- then please don't, don't bother me and waste my time."

On the December 8 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, Doocy, Kilmeade and co-host Gretchen Carlson followed up on their attacks on Gregory from the previous day. Kilmeade said that their focus on Gregory "ouched a nerve because we think it's just outrageous that David Gregory is trying to become famous and get back on The Tonight Show by using that forum where he knows a lot of people are watching and to take on Tony Snow day in and day out." Carlson said that "the topic of debate ... is whether or not David Gregory is doing this for his own personal gain." Kilmeade responded to Carlson: "There's no question. He's a liberal. His questions sound like he's a liberal, and he has a point of view in his so-called journalistic questions and his approach to Tony Snow every single day he comes up there."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200612090004

[TahitiNut]

9. It's the "K-Street Project" INSIDE the federal government. OUR federal government.

The corruption is beyond obscene.

[Old and In the Way]

12. Interesting insight on his comment that the media needed the Democrats

to do the investigating before they could report on it. Sad. The media obviously was too fearful of exposing the crimes for years and could only do their job once the Democrats took over.

[malaise]

22. Partly true

Congress has power to get documents and uncover what we all suspected. It's that oversight which is presenting proof of the pattern of corruption, cronyism, lies, stealing and politicizing of every fugging institution.

Funny how the Foley scandal followed by Haggart helped us big time.

[senseandsensibility]

17. Me, too.

But what about his assessment that subpoena power was needed by a Dem majority to get these scandals to the public? His statement that the media can't do it is technically true, but a little too CYA. The media can't issue subpoenas but that is not the only way to investigate these jerks. He doesn't want to admit any culpability on the media's part it seems.

[CatWoman]

20. OAITW beat you to it

post right above your's brought up the very same point :)

[Old and In the Way]

29. That's because great minds think alike!

:hi:

[senseandsensibility]

32. I'm flattered!

Love your user name, BTW.:hi:

[Beausoir]

23. Saw it. Very scary. But...they HAVE been exposed.

[LSK]

30. Pretty much what I wrote about last night

And pretty evident from this US Attorneygate scandal.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=538463&mesg_id=538463

[Disturbed]

33. NY Times withheld NSA Spying until after the '04 Election.

Why?

[LSK]

34. they also employed Judith Miller