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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:34 PM
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OMG! No more Keith for me after 4/24! What will I do?
I currently get my TV through Cablevision in the Northern NJ area. I just signed up with Verizon Fios for cable/phone/internet coverage that will save me over $50 per month plus give me incredible speed on the net with fiber optics (20/5 Mbps) and a whole lot more movie channels than I currently have including all the HBO, Starz, TMC, Showtime, etc., channels plus NFL Network, YES, everything I want.

Then, just this afternoon, as I looked over the lineup again of channels, I noticed that MSNBC was not listed. I checked further and found, to my horror, no MSNBC in northern NJ (and parts of NYC)with Fios because, for some inexplicable reason, Cablevision has exclusive rights to carry MSNBC on cable and since Verizon and Cablevision are blood enemies, of course they won't allow it. How long this agreement is for or why MSNBC would do such a stupid thing I have no idea, but for me it means no Keith, my favorite show.

Does anyone know if there is a streaming source for Countdown so I can at least see it on my computer?
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:37 PM
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1. yes, go to his show and you can stream
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:40 PM
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3. haha! May Secaucus mud fill your bathtub
This is not a time for jokes!!
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:40 PM
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4. lol
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:39 PM
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2. Do what those of us who weaned ourselves off of (most) TV a while ago
Wait until it's posted at MSNBC archives and watch it then

or excerpts on Crooks and Liars
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:40 PM
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5. betcha fux noise is on the list of channels you get.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:41 PM
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6. Here's the link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

In case it doesn't work, go to msnbc.com, choose the MSNBC TV link at the top then the link to Countdown on the left.

We watched the animal nominees for the Keithies in study hall today. Cool.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 01:10 PM
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17. Thanks
bookmarked!
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:41 PM
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7. I'm really tired of the lack of consumer choice for television
I'm currently fighting the DirectTV/Cable baseball package thing - WE own the airwaves. Why can't we just sign up with a cable provider of choice, and then choose our own 100 channels or whatever?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:44 PM
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9. Cable isn't the airwaves - that's why.
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 07:45 PM by Clark2008
P.S. But I do wish we could choose cable a la carte. Pick your top favorite 20-25 channels, have some educational channels thrown into the package (like PBS and C-SPAN, because they wouldn't get picked enough to survive on their own) and pay only for what you want.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:59 PM
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12. Well they get their programming off satellites
Even though I get it through a cable, they get it from satellite dishes. If they are exempt from rules affecting the airwaves, that's a loophole.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 11:41 PM
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15. Funny you should mention the Direct TV/Cable baseball package issue.
Keith's just as unhappy about it as you. As a Manhattan apartment resident, he can't subscribe to anything requiring a dish on the outside of the building.
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:43 PM
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8. Catch Keith on the Dan Patrick show on ESPN radio;
More sports orientated than the Countdown, but still a treat!
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:15 PM
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19. Dan and Keith - those were the glory days
of SportsCenter. No team has come within miles of those two.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:57 PM
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10. That sounds hard to believe. Is CNN Headline News there? Regular CNN? Is this new censorship? nt
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 01:12 PM
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18. FIOS carries everything except MSNBC
Over the past few months ICN has been keeping tabs on an odd development regarding cable news delivery in the New York City area. During that time ICN received several queries from befuddled readers and/or MSNBC viewers who wanted or were being forced to switch to Verizon FiOS but only found MSNBC available via Cablevision. Verizon, for example, has rolled out FiOS for every major cable news channel (FNC, CNN, HLN, CNBC, etc..) with one notable exception, MSNBC, in New Jersey and Long Island.

ICN has heard from several individuals in and out of the “industry” that Cablevision holds an exclusive carriage agreement with MSNBC. All other potential MSNBC providers, like Verizon, are therefore frozen out in areas where Cablevision operates. It is not known how or why Cablevision got an exclusive carriage deal for MSNBC but not other NBCU properties or why NBCU would even grant Cablevision an exclusive on MSNBC and MSNBC alone. This is a real head scratcher. Lots of unanswered questions. How long does Cablevision have the exclusive? Why did this happen? The bottom line is if you want MSNBC on Verizon FiOS in any area Cablevision operates, you’re out of luck.

http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/02/22/cablevision-has-exclusive-fios-deal-with-msnbc-in-nyc/
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:58 PM
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11. When they calculate ratings
I have to wonder how they can really do that, considering FAUX and MSNBC are not shown on an equal number of stations.

Dish has/had a package that had FAUX as the only news channel.
If MSNBC would get itself into more cable/satellite packages their ratings would soar.
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FyurFly Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 07:59 PM
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13. You Tube? n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:03 PM
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14. MSNBC was in danger of shutting down because GE finds it not profitable.
A few months ago there was a report that all MSNBC's Political shows would be "morphed into" their Financial Cable, CNBC. Then something happened and (maybe it was KO's ratings zooming) that halted the transfer for awhile...a reprive.

BUT...ratings are DOWN for Cable News and so only CNN (Invasion for Iran) Channel is likely to survive while the Networks go with the likes of Katie Curick and Jeff Greenfield.

What else is there to say. If you wanted to save money...you had to give up "KO" ...but you can probably download most of the "best of Keith" with your new "High Speed" and never notice the deprivation of not having MSNBC carried.

:shrug:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 11:48 PM
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16. I'll clarify here...again.
A few months ago there was a RUMOR--not a report--that all MSNBC's political shows would be morphed into CNBC as a result of a restructuring plan that NBC was about to announce, which was RUMORED to include shutting down MSNBC. However, when the restructuring details were actually announced, it contained no plan to close MSNBC.

KO's ratings probably helped a shutdown of MSNBC from ever being planned in the first place.

The supposed shutdown of MSNBC was never anything but a rumor perpetrated by industry insiders. But some people took it as a done deal--and when it didn't happen after all, they said that KO's ratings must have caused NBC to change its mind. Not quite true. It was never planned.
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