Kind of a mystery - David Gregory on Charlie Rose -

[NRaleighLiberal]

The two of them sharing views of Dimwit - Gregory making the statement that he thinks that our fearful leader is actually a thoughtful person, a big thinker - and Rose agreeing with him. I just don't get it - is it that the media types are drawn to idiots with big egos? Are they that easily fooled? Big thinker? Come on.....I thought by and large it was a disappointing interview. Then again, I guess the key to the media types is maintaining access in Washington, so, for them as well, the truth is really never all that close.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. He just wants...

To maintain his access. Get invited to the best cocktail parties, too.

[NRaleighLiberal]

2. Yes - and dance with karl rove. makes me want to puke...nt

[senseandsensibility]

3. Rose has not been impressive

for a very long time. :-(

[AlCzervik]

4. you mean you don't enjoy his coporate whoredom interviews with the ceo's

of the forbes 50 list?:D

thats where Charlie really lost me, the interviews with corporate heads.

[senseandsensibility]

12. Luckily I missed those

I remember an apalling one he had with Michael Moore, though. He was dismissive, uptight, and incoherent all at once. He seemed totally out of it, and scared to death of giving an inch to Micheal.

[NJCher]

5. disappointing about Gregory

The other night he was dancing and clowning it up with Karl Rove; now he thinks the moron is actually a thoughtful person. Ech.



Cher

[Dhalgren]

6. It's the "Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome" at work.

They have to make the fool out to be more than he is or they, themselves, will be proved even bigger idiots...

[Canuckistanian]

16. That's an insightful comment

And probably closer to the truth than we suspected.

[AndreaCG]

7. Doesn't Gregory appear on Olbermann?

There's a disconnect there.

[anitar1]

8. I have watched Rose for a few years and at times have

thought he exposes himself as leaning toward the right. He only does this when he becomes incensed over a remark a guest has made. then he quickly controls himself and becomes the neutral interviewer again. I watch when I am interested in the guest.But Charlie is not my favorite person anymore. Just my 2 cents about the impressions I have observed. Also he does not reveal this often. I will certainly watch Rose and Gregory tonight. David G. has impressed me as a boyish person who is not super serious about his job and what "journalist" has to be these days ?

[gatorboy]

9. Gregory has been getting pampered quite a bit lately.

He's been hosting the Today Show as well as Hardball so it looks to me like NBC has bigger plans for the man. Unfortunately it seems to have dampered his journalism skills quite a bit.

[spoony]

17. So Unfrozen Caveman Journalist

is going to be on my television more? Blech! :(

[Hamlette]

10. I don't think bush is a fool

if you do accept that how to you account for him having taken over all three branches of government and taken our country on a radically different path (his)? Thinking it was being faced with 9.11 and not knowing what to do is wrong too. Here's what he said at his 2000 convention speech:

"For eight years, the Clinton/Gore administration has coasted through prosperity. And the path of least resistance is always downhill. But America's way is the rising road. This nation is daring and decent and ready for change.

Our current president embodied the potential of a generation. So many talents. So much charm. Such great skill. But, in the end, to what end?

So much promise, to no great purpose. Little more than a decade ago, the Cold War thawed and, with the leadership of Presidents Reagan and Bush, that wall came down. But instead of seizing this moment, the Clinton/Gore administration has squandered it. We have seen a steady erosion of American power and an unsteady exercise of American influence.

Our military is low on parts, pay and morale. If called on by the commander in chief today, two entire divisions of the Army would have to report. 'Not ready for duty, sir.' This administration had its moment. They had their chance. They have not led. We will."

His goal was exactly the same as the neocons, world domination (cough...err....influence.) He is an idealist, while I'm not sure they were his own ideas, he clearly believed he could remake the world when he took office. That's a big thinker.

[orwell]

11. Big thinker?

Or bigger narcissist...

We report, you decide...

[Hamlette]

14. well...

you can run the country in a competent way, trying to do what is best for as many people as you can, or you can try to change the world.

No more narcissistic than any of us.

If you were "king of the world" wouldn't you try to make it over in your own image?

I would.

My image would even resemble his: make everyone free.

Difference is, I'm reality challenged. He's not. But I don't think it is because he is dumb. I think it is because he thinks differently from us as do almost all conservatives. It's like god's cruelest practical joke, putting right wing nut cases and the rest of us on the same piece of land and making us try to get along without our side being able to understand how the bullies think.

You'd have to be a complete narcissist to run for president. Of course he's a narcissist.

[Maccagirl]

13. Good Points

But Bush has beliefs, not ideas. That, in the end, equals disaster.

[peacetalksforall]

15. I'm totally not with you. I think this person is morally corrupt and

operates at the lowest level of human beast. I don't think he is lofty in any conceivable way. He is a moral and intellectual cripple, but seemingly, a happy one, because he seems determined to destroy and laugh and he has succeeded at that.

I can't accept the idea that he has written any of his speeches - the words from the one you are referencing is definitely not within his capability, imo. If it was early, it may have been orchestrated by Karen Hughes or Rove and polished by someone else.

He is coached and tutored all the way. His handlers let him choose his closest aides and I feel positive they are all of a similar mind set which is to screw us whether or not we give them what they want - the PNAC group, corporations, foundations, organizations, councils, barons, and countries. (We are the grunt army for the UK and Israel, for example, but treated worse). Anyone who would relish in the plans presented to him that involved stealing our precious vote, robging us of our privacy and rights, not caring about Katrina, not caring about our children, not caring about Iraqis - and giving our lives and livhood to corporations through privatization - designed by, written by others - what can he and they be called?

I do not see any redeeming qualities in a person who relishes death and dirty deals. All the ideas for our takeover came out of PNAC and think tanks with the blessings of the barons. He didn't create anything. He is a marionette in carrying them out in this staged and shared delusion that he is President. He didn't create the plan to take over three branches of the government - four if you count the Supreme Court. We (make that I) have not learned one thing about him that makes me think he can plan and create anything that is more than the deals we know about and that isn't limited to the loyalty, betrayal, revenge obsession that he is always involved in.

I praise your ability to find qualities you can appreciate.

(My opinion of Cheney is even lower, which somewhat says that Bush is a step up, but I don't know in which way - perhaps is helplessness in being used.)

I find it amazing that we who are interested in preserving our country have to learn so much about these despicable people and that we have to work so hard to read between the lines and sift and sort the reality that they promised they would ruin for us.

[WinkyDink]

18. In some circles such a "big thinker" is called a "Narcissistic Psychopath".

The last 6 years have borne out this theory.
And no, one doesn't "have to be a narcissist" to run for President. Having confidence is not the same as having a psychological disorder.

Bush wants to "make everyone free"? Via the NSA, with e-mails being read and phone calls listened to? With librarians forced to hand over patrons' information? With TORTURE and the demise of HABEAS CORPUS? Of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo? Maybe Blackwater, New Orleans, and re-location guarded camps?

"Free"? Stealing elections is FREEDOM at work??

"FREE"? Only if "freedom" occurs when one's body is freed from its mortal coil. Because Bush LIKES KILLING PEOPLE.

So maybe you're right---he DOES seem to be a "big thinker", after all. Big disasters, big wars, big casualty lists, big national deficit, big election frauds, big impeachable offenses.

BIG LIES.