HOW ARE WE LIBERALS LINKED INTO SOLIDARITY WITH THE VETERANS AND THE TROOPS?

[omega minimo]

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

-- George Orwell, “1984”

“Money Trumps Peace, sometimes, heheheh” -- George Bush, 2007

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We marched in the streets across the planet in early 2003 because WE DID NOT WANT THESE TROOPS PUT IN HARMS WAY, sent to DIE FOR A LIE.

We stood across the street from the flag-waving, gung ho yeehaws who came out just to harass the PEOPLE WHO WERE REALLY SUPPORTING OUR TROOPS.

We figured out that the flash cards and photos and song and dance presented to the Congress and the United Nations were a bunch of hooey-- we knew that the “Sixteen Words” in the State of the Union were propaganda the moment they were uttered.... we knew what the Congress pretended not to know, claiming they had more information and knew better-- or not enough information and didn’t know any better.....

We withstood the ridicule of the likes of What-a-rush Limbaugh who has built a monumental career on pitting one side of the street against the other, on deepening the divide, when we are on the SAME SIDE as the troops, supporting the military that protects America for legitimate reasons and disagreeing when the military is DESTROYED to promote ILLEGITIMATE causes.

It is truly painful to hear the insane Limbaugh, knowing that he is broadcast to troops overseas (at taxpayer expense, of course) lying to them about how Democrats and “The Left” and Liberals are counting on defeat for the military. How is that even LEGAL?!!!!!

Lying to troops in the field, broadcast at taxpayer expense, telling them that Democrats and liberals want defeat for the military at all costs. HOW INSANE IS THAT?

“Liberalism requires ignorance.”

Here is this Limbot bastard claiming over the air that liberalism depends on a public that is ignorant and unable to comprehend how life works, how government works, how economics works..... IS HE INSANE? Yes.


HOW ARE WE LIBERALS LINKED INTO SOLIDARITY WITH THE VETERANS AND THE TROOPS?

WHY IS WHAT-A-RUSH LIMBAUGH ALLOWED TO SPEW HIS VENOMOUS LIES TO TROOPS IN THE FIELD AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE AND TO VETERANS EVERYWHERE, ABOUT WHAT LIBERALS SUPPORT, DEFEND AND PROTECT?


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[EFerrari]

1. Sing it, shout it. K&R

[omega minimo]

3. Well

:hi:

[Monkeyman]

2. Well you got me don't you LOL K&R

[omega minimo]

5. That didn't take long

:hi: :yourock:

I took a look at our forum before raising the question.......... Saw your name up front..............

Where are we? Doesn't it make sense for us to have a stronger bond - does it already exist? The lies are outrageous.

[Monkeyman]

10. You got it the lies and broken promises

The Bond is stronger them must we are family

[omega minimo]

11. question

where is the visibility? where is the solidarity?

[Monkeyman]

12. Here is a link

Come on over and Post up http://www.veteransforamerica.org on the blog

[omega minimo]

16. Thanks for the link

Where is the combined effort b/w peace and military groups?

Not a real "starter" topic on DU, is it? :shrug:

[PhilipShore]

4. Liberals think they are G.I. Joe's not troops n/t

[omega minimo]

6. Huh?

GI Joes are plastic. Troops are flesh and blood.

[saltpoint]

14. I'm a liberal and I don't think that at all.

What's the buzz here? I'm evidently not getting your point.

We see them as people and don't want them unarmored in Baghdad or ignored when they're in Walter Reed.

[omega minimo]

7. Dayum this is good

"we knew what the Congress pretended not to know, claiming they had more information and knew better-- or not enough information and didn’t know any better....."


20 minutes in on a Friday night and :boring:....................................................................... oh well, the Greatest will getcha---- the question is WHAT DO WE DO?!!!!!!!!!!

[Raksha]

8. Great rant! How are liberals linked in solidarity with the troops?

That's a no-brainer...both sides have been screwed over by the Bush Mafia...them worse than us.

[omega minimo]

9. Good point

""both sides have been screwed over by the Bush Mafia...them worse than us."

We know it. They don't. And in between is the meeting ground........... :toast:

[Raksha]

21. I think they are beginning to know it too. Most of them have already

figured it out on their own, and the rest are in the process of figuring it out, in spite of Rush and the rest of the Republican Noise Machine.

[saltpoint]

13. I feel we're linked to them as people but not as pawns for Bush's war.

Rush Limbaugh is a raving lunatic and should be dismissed accordingly. He spoonfeeds Anger to his listeners, his dittoheads, who appear to be people who want only Anger for their diet. He complies with their basic needs for it and they're out there driving around on the roads in the afternoons of America while Rush spews bile from their dashboards. The demographics say most of his listeners are male. People not unlike George W. Bush.

Molly Ivins, in an interview on NPR's FRESH AIR, said that Bush exemplifies far too many Texas men. She said they suffer from three tragic personality flaws. One is a hollow religiosity, two is a rampant anti-intellectualism, and three is pointless machismo. By extension, that demographic works for Rush's audience.

The good news is while these sorts of folks are riding mechanical bulls and getting shitfaced on Friday nights many of us liberals are stuffing envelopes and making calls for our candidates. 2008 is going to be a very blue year, a year in which Rush's favorite political party suffers record defeats. Bush has all but insured this, and the more Rush rants the less likely the GOP can rehabilitate itself. He's not only part of their problem, he's one of their loudest problems of all. When a political party goes from Howard Baker to Rush Limbaugh, there are consequences.

[omega minimo]

15. Seems it would be a powerful unified voice........

and knowing that What-a-rush Limbot is actively doing the opposite, including directly to deployed troops, is obscene.

Great post OC. :pals: Love the Molly quote.

I agree with your grassroots positivism. However, we are really living in a state of delusion on all sides. Limbaugh can take a lot of credit for the power of The Big Lie in today's mess.

[saltpoint]

18. Yeah, but at heart he' still a big dumbass!

[AnneD]

17. I was OK with them going into Afghanastan.....

I actually thought we could get OBL and aid Afghanistan in their recovery from the Tali ban. That would have been excellent PR on the Arab streets.

But from the minute they tried to link SH with 9-11-I started yelling BS. I remember how close BushI was to SH with all this money drugs and weapons, We backed SH, even when he killed his own people. I think now and will always believe that SH was offed so that the full extent of the BFEE and SH connection would never be know. I didn't want to ask SH about terrorist, no I wanted to ask him his connections to the Bush family, Zapata Oil, Arbusco Oil, the Carlyle Group, etc. Now we can never corroborate our evidence.

I am an Army Reservist and just missed being sucked into the first Gulf War. You won't find someone more supportive of out troops and especially our Reservists. I have a whole collection of letters written on behalf of Vet. concerns. Not that it seems to do any good with this administration.

This war has been FUBAR from the get go, but that doesn't mean I won't take tear gas or a baton here for the guys. Someone has to be their voice here, cause the military won't let them speak their minds,

[omega minimo]

19. Do see the gap being bridged b/w peace and vets groups?

Do you think it would help? Thank you for your post and perspective.

"Someone has to be their voice here, cause the military won't let them speak their minds"

[AnneD]

28. It is the best we can do for them...

Some are so shell shocked and traumatized it will take a long time before they can recover. I recommend that war vets mentor the new vets. I have helped and been a resource for my vet friends, and I have been in the military, and as a Nurse, I sometimes have to deal with PTSS, but because I have never seen combat, there are things that I feel I cannot address in a way they need. Most of the vets I know are VERY VERY vocal and stand up for these guys. They need a good ear to listen to them. It will never go away, but one can eventually live with it. At many of the peace rallies I see many vets. Their were so many with Cindy Sheehan last time I went to Crawford.

[Kurovski]

20. K&R

It's a good one. Thanks.:-)

[omega minimo]

24. Hey K

:toast:

[Rex]

22. Great post!

K&R!

[omega minimo]

25. Great sig line

Thanks Rex! :thumbsup:



"I'd say, first of all, "You've made terrible choices for your people. You've isolated your nation. You've taken a nation of proud and honorable people, and you've made your country the pariah of the world. You've defied international accord. And you're slowly but surely isolating yourself." - George Bush

[northofdenali]

23. That isn't a hard question. We were during Viet Nam, too.

Ask the guys at VVAW, your local Vet Center, the IAVA http://www.iava.org/

Ain't no Repukes coming out in support when (IF) they come home.

It's always been us anti-imperialism, anti-fuck-the-rest-of-em-ism idiots that march at 20 below and still show up at the airport, and still make sure you have a place to stay, a meal, and a job -

FUCKIN REPUBLICANS DON'T AND NEVER HAVE DONE THIS.

Sorry. /rant

[omega minimo]

26. Right. Great rant, northofdenali. Thanks

That's the truth of it. The Big Lie about it has higher visibility.

Thanks for the reality check. :hug:

[northofdenali]

27. ....

:hug::loveya::hug:

As a veteran, a still-hippie, a mother and grandmother, I hope I've done SOME good for our armed services. I live in a neighborhood where I could throw a rock and hit our local Army post - and many of the Stryker Brigade live next door, across the street, on the next block -

NONE of these incredible men and women support *, his misAdministration, the invasion and occupation of Iraq, and would LOVE to go to Afghanistan and piss all over Al Qaeda.

The Pukes won't let the rest of the "great unwashed" know about that, though, will they?

SUPPORT OUR INCREDIBLE TROOPS.

BRING THEM HOME NOW, DAMMIT!!!