For the record and in keeping with what we know, so far, here are Karl's girls...

[Fridays Child]

(Have I missed anyone?)

[Radical Activist]

1. Karl's girls?

Are they his children or something?

[eShirl]

6. it's like Charlie's Angels

except not.

[Morgana LaFey]

83. Thank you. I've about had it with the sexism around here --

masquerading as cuteness, or whatever.

I've just had my FILL -- and it started with Imus but it won't end there.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. i thought it was sara CONNER not sara taylor.

"I'll Be Bahk"

[Fridays Child]

13. TPM and Rawstory have it as Taylor. Maybe there's yet another...

...Rove groupie by the last name of Conner. They do seem to be slithering out in droves, lately.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

17. Sorry for the bad joke. Terminator movies involved Connor.

my bad. Just getting ready for tomorrow.

[Sanity Claws]

3. They're young

My guess is that there's a lot of turnover. Good bosses often have assistants that are with them for a very long time.

[TahitiNut]

8. Naive. Clueless. Sycophantic. Groupies.

:shrug:

[CrazyOrangeCat]

15. yep.

and in way over their heads . . .

[HCE SuiGeneris]

4. Lurita Doan? n/t

[Fridays Child]

9. Does she work for Karl? I think she's at the GSA but I could be wrong.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

11. She acts like a poster child of his...

:P

[annabanana]

5. Reminds me of...

Tha Manson Girls

[solara]

10. Ha ha I posted my comment before I read yours

looks like we are on the same page....



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[Fridays Child]

12. Touché!

[WinkyDink]

22. And Bushie doesn't LIKE a snitch!

[WhiteTara]

34. what an eerie similarity! n/t

[solara]

7. I am waiting all three to shave their heads and

carve X into their foreheads. :sarcasm:



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[Fridays Child]

16. They probably just keep their brands hidden.

But they are definitely brainwashed little zombies. According to Wikipedia, Sara Taylor was one of the head thugs of the College Repukes, when she was at Drake University.

[solara]

18. Heh.. "brainwashed little zombies" How apt...I would like to know how

they were brainwashed, actually.


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[Fridays Child]

21. Maybe they're just...

[donsu]

14. poor things

nt

[solara]

19. Question: Are they all graduates of Regent University?

If so, maybe there is some truth to the idea that there is a right wing Christian cult at work here.

:crazy:


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[Sydnie]

25. Susan Ralston's degrees

Susan Ralston - She’s married to Troy Alan Ralston, Regional Director of Operations for Keller Graduate School of Management."
<snip>

"She earned a bachelor’s degree with honors from the University of Loyola in Chicago and has an MBA from Keller Graduate School of Management."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Susan_B._Ralston

http://www.devry.edu/keller/index.jsp

[solara]

26. Ahhhh well, that eases my mind... nt

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

30. Um, Ralston got her undergrad degree from Loyola University

in Chicago, not the University of Loyola which doesn't exist...

[Sydnie]

33. I didn't write it ... I just cut and pasted it.

:)

[Sydnie]

27. Can't find anything about Taylor's education at all

Beginning July 2, 2003, Taylor served as Deputy to the Chief Strategist, Matthew Dowd, for the Bush-Cheney '04 Inc. re-election campaign: "Taylor worked for the White House as an associate political director (Midwest) doing political and public affairs outreach. During the 2000 campaign she worked from late April 1999 through Januay 2000 as coalitions director for Bush's Iowa caucus campaign, then did field work in the SC, VA, WA and IL primaries, and finally served as executive director of the Michigan campaign. Previously Taylor worked for two years at the Tarrance Group, the No. Va. polling firm headed by Ed Goeas. In 1995-96 she worked on Sen. Phil Gramm's presidential campaign in Iowa."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Sara_Taylor

[Fridays Child]

28. FWIW, Wikipedia calls her a gradcuate of Drake University...

...where she held a prominent position with the College Repukes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Taylor

[bobthedrummer]

29. Fwiw-Kyle Sampson got a career boost from his law school pal Elizabeth CHENEY

she got him into the administration
Kyle Sampson profile
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/3/18/111740/107

Another "coincidence"-Elizabeth CHENEY served in the State Dept. as an asst. for Middle East Economic affairs (oil) before the Iraq war-even sitting in intelligence community meetings

"The Commissar's in Town" by Robert Dreyfuss
http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewPrint&articleId=11540

This is a web unraveling, it's a real criminal conspiracy and a serious reseacher disregards so called "coincidences" based on what is known.

Keep digging.

Certainly those college social circles are part of it.

[Fridays Child]

31. At a certain point, it just all seems so freaking incestuous, doesn't it?

[bobthedrummer]

53. It isn't coincidence-that's for sure. Here's an update from CREW bloggers:

"gwb43.com scandal profiled in L.A. Times"

http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/27530

[bobthedrummer]

62. Elizabeth CHENEY was also a "colleague" of Wolfowitz's partner Shaha Ali Riza

at the State Department-and it gets much more involved than that.

Here's as good as any place to start looking at Shaha Ali Riza, perhaps total war Wolfie's "spy who loved me"-Village Voice blogger Ward Harkavy posted about these connections in his Bush Beat Morning Report of January 24,2006 "Wolfie at the Door"
http://villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/2006/01/morning_report_263.php

The Decider had "authorized" what, imo, was another money laundering system for all kinds of black operations-this at State through Elizabeth Cheney's venture fund "vision"--something called the Middle East Partnership Initiative/MEPI where Ms. Riza's "expertise" was helpful. Source Watch has a page on this.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Middle_East_Partnership_Initiative

To make it even spookier-Ms. Riza had "unauthorized" (by WB) employment with SAIC as the Government Accountability Project noted (SAIC got 7 no-bid "contracts" in Iraq, among other things)
http://www.whistleblower.org/content/press_detail.cfm?press_id=875

That SAIC connection opens up yet another mother figure (or 2+) former WH VP staffer and Deputy Director of the "secret" National Energy Policy Development Group Karen Knutson (a lobbyist) who has had many clients including SAIC (just click on her name profile) as detailed by Open Secrets-she must have interfaced with MEPI at some point too
http://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/rev_summary.asp?id=27705

There's a lot more but that's enough for now- these criminals can all CHENEY OFF for the rest of their lives in a total war KBR supermax facility as far as I'm concerned. Then there is the penalty for treason to consider too.

Fwiw, SAIC was private but offered an IPO last October, here is a very good background article on SAIC by Donald L. Barlett and James B. Steele (originally published in Vanity Fair but taken from Dennis Kucinich's website)
"Washington's $8 Billion Shadow"
http://kucinich.us/node/2850

fair use cited on all links

[shanti]

64. oh my....

look how deep the rabbit hole goes! :wow: thanks for the links!

[bobthedrummer]

66. You're more than welcome-share them, add to the research on these folks, shanti. n/t

[nam78_two]

77. Thanks for the links bob

I find these kinds of ties fascinating....

[bobthedrummer]

78. Add to them, share them with others nam78_two-we're taking names! n/t

[InternalDialogue]

54. Drake University -- Also the alma mater of Michael Elston

He is the assistant to the deputy AG who was responsible for some of the correspondence with the fired U.S. attorneys.

I believe he was tasked with being first line of defense after the firing notifications.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Elston

[grasswire]

20. something significant about Goodling

She was the protege of Barbara Comstock at the RNC's opposition research team in 2000. Comstock is a barracuda, originating from the Scaife-funded hits on the Clintons.

So Goodling has been trained in the politics of smash-mouth personal destruction. She followed Comstock from the RNC to the DoJ, where Comstock became Ashcroft's spokeswoman. Tim Griffin also worked for Comstock there, as her deputy. They were both schooled by Comstock, who is a hateful shrew in the manner of Toensing-Coulter.

Is Comstock running a stealth operation to politicize the DoJ? Is she freelancing now, or still on the people's payroll somewhere?

[salin]

23. good question/point per the Comstock connection.

:thumbsup:

[Garbo 2004]

35. Comstock has been the PR flack for Libby defense team, also involved in his defense fund.

More info here: http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/people/barbaracomstock

Another former Ashcroft DOJ flack, Mark Corallo, served as Rover's lawyers' spokesperson.

[bobthedrummer]

37. Then there's Mel Sembler

Mel Sembler links

TPM on Libby defense involvement
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/007185.php

SourceWatch Sembler profile
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mel_Sembler

Ambassador de Sade by John Gorenfeld
http://www.alternet.org/story/27725/

Mel Sembler also does funding for Joe Lieberman, Sembler was the Italian Ambassador when the fake Niger docs came out of Italy, etc. etc.

[Virginia Dare]

41. The Rove tentacles seem to be as insidious as Delay's were...n/t

[bobthedrummer]

42. Exponentially worse-just look at the post about Mel Sembler

now comes word of Sam Fox's recess appointment to be the Decider's Ambassador to Belgium.

Fwiw, here's an archived thread from 3-30-2005 started by Octafish about the mysterious deaths of many people critical of the Bush family and what loyal Bushies likely do-pragmatically eliminate opposition to their crimes and use layers of "insulation" like Karl's shop and many of the individuals named in this thread.

When bribes, extortion, intimidation, disinfo, character assassination campaigns and all else fails there is physical destruction that also can look like many things.


"Know your BFEE: Dead Men Tell No Tales"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3389867

[KoKo]

45. And the list of the Sembler Family Donations (that are known) are like

a rogue's gallery of the worst Repug serving in Congress. Althought "serving" isn't the correct word..."installed agenda operatives" is the better one.

Reading how Sembler has been rewarded for torture and crookery like all of the Bush Donors through the years makes one wonder if Ken Lay isn't alive and well living off his spoils somewhere where the sun shines brightly, the birds sing and where he can go boating every day.

In FLA on a trip recently I took a boatride through the canals of Boca Raton, Florida. The Guide pointed out "The Sanctuary" ...a secretive enclave that is an offshoot of the canal but covered in trees to seclude the owners from "prying eyes" that the rest of the owners get on the tour. The Guide said that Ken Lay had owned a home in "The Sanctuary," and that if any boater strayed too far close to the waterway entrance a patrol "gun boat" would appear to warn off the interloper.

Was quite creepy passing by "The Sanctuary" where only a glimps of a few tiled roofs of what appeared to be palatial residences were. And, one wonders who might still be living there given FLA's reputation as a "Sanctuary" for those of criminal and ill repute. Perhaps a man and his wife who've undergone some creative plastic surgery.

[Virginia Dare]

47. A "gun boat"?

that's like the fucking mafia :scared:

[KoKo]

48. Yep....and the guide was really interesting. As we passed by the

waterway estate of Home Depot's owner (another Bush Bot supporter) he made a comment about how the gardeners are always working there but it appears that the "resident" only comes occasionally as it's only "one of his homes." I got the impression the guide might have Dem leanings)

BTW: Guide described it as a "small patrol boat with armed men" One of the passengers with us said it reminded him of a "James Bond" Movie.

[bobthedrummer]

49. Nobody can make this up-sounds like something from John Le Carre

except that it's true. (Actually it sounds like something from Ian Fleming's "Dr. No")

I wonder if Mel and Betty Sembler and other loyal Bushies also have a shrine or something in "The Sanctuary"-thanks for sharing KoKo01.

Now, what about yesterday's "resignation" of Monica Goodling???

And how long do we, the people, have to endure folks like J.Scott Jennings, Paul J. McNulty and Alice S. Fisher????

[Virginia Dare]

46. Thanks, I remember that classic Octafish thread...

will we ever know the truth?

[bobthedrummer]

51. A lot of people reported the truth and are gone-it is up to US to continue to

demand accountability and reform of the corrupted process, research new areas and share what we find.

We, the people, know the truth when we hear it.

[bobthedrummer]

59. Kick

[Manifestor_of_Light]

63. He should change his name to "Dis" Sembler, perhaps??

Dissembling = lying

:rofl:

[bobthedrummer]

55. Then there is former Homeland Security now DoJ spooksperson

Tasia Scolinos-she sent a lot of e-mails to Karl's shop and is another mother figure...

[bobthedrummer]

86. KICK

[bobthedrummer]

24. DU researchers use things including their skillsets, what is currently known,

and databases like the 2006 White House Salary List work of Alexis Simendinger (for nationaljournal.com)-or similar databases when researching "Karl's shop"
http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2006/0711nj1.htm

The House Oversight Committee knew that Karl Rove, Susan Ralston, Barry Jackson, Ken Mehlman, Ruben Barrales and Jennifer Farley were Jack Abramoff WH connections
http://oversight.house.gov/abramoff/index2.asp

Take any of these individuals and go on from there-but it takes time. Btw, a lot of what was once dismissed as conspiracy theory here at DU is now accepted because it is true-and that is located in the millions of archived threads here.

Then there is the real problem of information warfare to adapt to-that's where databases other than electronic ones are valuable.

Keep at it and share what you come up with for the cause of truth, democracy and accountability.

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[librechik]

32. Barbara Comstock, chief witch of the Rove Coven

[MN ChimpH8R]

36. The two blondes

each look about 16 years old. Brainless little 'bots who do whatever they are told.

Another George got it right:

Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt?
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in

Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts?
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in

In their styes with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a damn good whacking

Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon

[bobthedrummer]

38. This thread has a lot of connected "dots"-kick

[bobthedrummer]

39. One of the "mothers" of these Karl's shop "girls" Susan Bonzon Ralston is supposed

to be interviewed today, unlike Monica Goodling Ralston isn't lawyered up nor making any noise about taking the 5th.

I wonder if she will keep this voluntary appointment.

[bobthedrummer]

40. Susan Bonzon Ralston's deposition has "been postponed indefinitely"

She should receive a bunch of subpoenas for that.

[ThomWV]

43. Who postponed it?

[bobthedrummer]

44. I hope someone has an answer to that-I don't know. I'm not surprised.

This is what criminal organizations do.

[Jacobin]

50. Here's another and she's a doozey

There've been a few hints that something fishy was up in the Minneapolis US Attorney's office where 34-year old Rachel Paulose was sworn in to office last month in a lavish 'investiture' ceremony some have called a 'coronation'. Paulose's predecessor left under murky circumstances. And there are some hints that the Justice Department may originally have considered giving Paulose a Patriot Act appointment rather than going down the old-fashioned senate confirmation route.

It’s a major shakeup at the offices of new U.S. Attorney Rachel Paulose.

Four of her top staff voluntarily demoted themselves Thursday, fed up with Paulose, who, after just months on the job, has earned a reputation for quoting Bible verses and dressing down underlings.

Deputy U.S. Attorney John Marty is just one of the people dropping themselves in rank to simply a U.S. Attorney position. Also making the move are the heads of Paulose’s criminal and civil divisions and the top administrative officer.

The move is intended to send a message to Washington – that 33-year-old Paulose is in over her head.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013470.php

[bobthedrummer]

52. Thanks for adding to this important developing story.

[bobthedrummer]

81. Kick. There's been something fishy in Minnesota since before 9/11

when superiors in the FBI isolated and reassigned priorities of Agent Rowley and her colleagues (nationwide) that were on to the flight training and other activities of suspicious ME folks.

Dem. Congressman Dennis Moore (KS) managed to get her some recognition from Congress in June 2002.
http://www.moore.house.gov/nr.asp?nr_id=221

Anyone have any other research about that and how these Karl's shop outside the box systems were likely involved?

[bobthedrummer]

56. The WH has now "lost" many e-mails-KICK. What Loyal Bushie did this?

KEEP ADDING TO THIS THREAD

[bobthedrummer]

57. This isn't going away, it is still developing-kick for the morning.

[bobthedrummer]

58. 5,000,000 reasons for another kick

[Emit]

60. Sara Taylor

~snip~
Sara Taylor (born 1974) is Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Political Affairs at the White House, making her one of George W. Bush's top political aides. She currently reports to Karl Rove. (source)

The pollster played a major role in both Bush presidential victories and is now poised to have a hand in a variety of major Senate and gubernatorial races in 2006. She began her political career as a toddler, helping her dad, Ray Taylor, a former Iowa state representative.

She is a graduate of Drake University. During her time at Drake, Taylor held the position of National Co-Chairman of the College Republicans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Taylor


It's almost incestual with these folks:

Sara Taylor was John Weaver's (an old business partner/strategist of Rove's -- they since parted ways -- see below) protege and now working for Rove?

December 05, 2006
The Daily Troika: McCain's Christmas Party

Sen. John McCain's Straight Talk America PAC held a Christmas Party last night...

~snip~

Other names and faces seen at the party ... White House political director Sara Taylor, a protege of McCain adviser John Weaver's, made her way from the White House...


And according to many, Rove and Weaver had a falling out:


~snip~

Even more striking is Rove's estrangement from John Weaver, once such a close friend that Rove nearly went into business with him in Texas. But the two had a billing dispute, became rivals, and at some point Rove spread false rumors of personal misconduct on Weaver's part. After the 2000 campaign, when Weaver worked for McCain, Rove virtually blackballed him from Republican politics. Weaver went to work mostly for Democrats, though he is now masterminding McCain's presumed 2008 presidential campaign. Weaver and Rove had a much-publicized rapprochement during the 2004 presidential race, when Rove needed McCain to campaign hard for Bush, but the two have not talked in more than a year.

~snip~

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2006/12/rove200612?currentPage=5

~snip~

John McCain's cheif (sic) political advisor is a man named John Weaver. John Weaver is a brilliant campaign strategist, and is easily the "Darth Vader" to Karl Rove's "Emperor Palpatine". The power of the Sith flows freely through Weaver.

In fact, Weaver and Rove, who developed their political skills in the world of Texas politics, were partners in a political consulting/direct mail firm at one time. The partnership was successful, but ultimately self-defeating. For reasons I am still uncertain about, Weaver and Rove became vicious enemies. This blood fued lasts to this day.

Weaver and Rove went their seperate ways, but both continued to manage GOP campaigns into the late 1990's. And then Rove signed on with Bush 2000 and Weaver signed on with McCain, and the two went head to head for all the marbles.

Bush, and Rove by extension, won.

To the victors go the spoils. One of Rove's first acts (according to John Weaver) in 2000 was to contact GOP candidates who had used John Weaver's services in the past to inform them that the White House would not play ball with anyone associated with Weaver from that day forward.

I believe this happened. At one time, I worked for a candidate who had employed John Weaver, and was present for a discussion in which John Weaver's continued association with the candidate was discussed. Weaver was dismissed.

In fact, this happened so frequently that Weaver changed his party alignment. Having been a Republican consultant he became a Democrat as Republican officials and office seekers, wary of offending the White House, would not employ him.

To this day, Weaver is now predominantly a Democratic Campaign operative, McCain being the sole (as far as I know) exception. ~snip~

http://minx.cc/?post=220857

And, now Weaver marries Guilliani's ex-deputy chief of staff:

John Weaver, the senior strategist to Senator John McCain of Arizona, is marrying Angela Hession, who was the deputy chief of staff to Rudolph W. Giuliani right through his last day as mayor of New York at the end of 2001. Mr. Weaver and Ms. Hession met when he went to New York after the Sept. 11 attacks to help the city with communication efforts.
Ms. Hession left Mr. Giuliani’s inner circle when his term ended. In addition to marrying Mr. Weaver this summer, she is also now a strategist for Mr. McCain, who is Mr. Giuliani’s chief rival at this point for the Republican presidential nomination.

~snip~

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/12/political-vows/

[bobthedrummer]

61. Thanks! Kick.

[Bucky]

65. Oh, you mean actual women. I assumed "Karl's girls" was a euphemism for his man-titties.

[malaise]

67. Threads like this one are the reason

I love DU. This should be on the greatest page, but while I can kick I can't recommend because of the 24 hour thingy.

[bobthedrummer]

68. Add your own research and knowledge, malaise-but, yeah keep kicking. n/t

[solara]

69. I don't have much to add, just gathered the names mentioned in this thread to make

Rove’s gallery:

Barbara Comstock, Monica Goodling, Susan Ralston, Sarah Taylor, Elizabeth Cheney, Rachel Paulose, Shaha Ali Riza, Karen Knutson, Michael Elston, Mark Corallo, Mel Sembler J.Scott Jennings, Paul J. McNulty, Alice S. Fisher, Tasia Scolinos, John Weaver, Angela Hession, Jim Dyke, Roger Ailes

I have been wondering about BushCo's "nameless, faceless" minions and their connections.

This thread is excellent with some great catches..

"DU outs the conspirators"..kinda gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling :hi:

:kick: :kick: :kick:


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[solara]

70. Adding Jim Dyke, Head of RNC Communications

:kick: :kick: :kick:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3216077



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[solara]

72. Adding Roger Ailes, Head of Faux Noise

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x654130



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[solara]

73. Woops

I forgot Lurita Doan

:kick: :kick:

...

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[bobthedrummer]

74. .

Lurita Alexis Doan thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x521785

Btw, since some of the Abramoff WH contacts were in the Intergovernmental Affairs group you might want to check out Lori Sharpe Day who was part of that and is an Ashcroft Group lobbyist-she also was an Associate Advisor to the Attorney General

Lori Sharpe Day profile from Open Secrets.org
http://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/rev_summary.asp?id=20501

[solara]

75. Excellent, thanks for the link

I read your post about Doan ( bravo ) I will definitely check out Ms. Day and add her to my list... I am trying to keep a running tab of Rove's Gallery and at the same time help to keep this thread kicked.


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[bobthedrummer]

76. International dateline kick...for our troops and their families and for US.

:patriot:

[solara]

79. Hear! Hear!

:kick:


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[Imagevision]

71. And two out of the three resigned -- or did all three take the bullet?

[bobthedrummer]

80. If nothing else this thread is valuable for background on the HEARINGS

this week-we, the people will be HEARING from folks like Alberto Gonzales and Condileeza Rice-and when what we HEAR is a LIE it's good to know everything we can about the TRUTH and to demand accountability and CORRECTION of DIRECTION from corrupt systems issuing what they call POLICY but is, in fact, politically codified criminality.

In other words-threads like this are like having a program at a ballgame.

This is going to be quite a week in OUR nation's capitol.

[bobthedrummer]

82. Let's keep growing this thread-kick

[bobthedrummer]

84. kick

[bobthedrummer]

85. indictment kick