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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 07:21 PM
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A small action to advance the cause of torture prosecutions
I don't know if it will do any good. Still - I have to try.


I'm going to write some letters. In those letters I am going to include articles, statements, and various other documentation as to why I think America's war criminals need to be prosecuted. I'm going to ask to be heard.

I will be sending a letter to my representatives.

I will be sending a letter to President Obama

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500


I will also send letters to the following:

Prof. Dr. Manfred Nowak, LL.M. (Special Rapporteur on torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, the UN)

Prof. Dr. Manfred Nowak
Universität Wien
Freyung 6, 1. Hof, Stiege II
A-1010 Wien
EMAIL:manfred.nowak@univie.ac.at


ADDRESS: Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights

Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR)
Palais Wilson
52 rue des Pâquis
CH-1201 Geneva, Switzerland


This overpowering sense of helplessness stops now.





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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 07:23 PM
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1. PS Mr. Obama, this is not a third-rate burglary cover-up,
and you should take a hint from Mr. Nixon, avoid a crime cover-up.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:19 PM
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8. I was hoping to keep my anger in check
Which is hard for me.

But I did snicker when I read your post. :)
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 07:24 PM
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2. Recommended
:kick:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:28 PM
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13. Thanks, Lars39
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 07:53 AM
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28. Thank you, Solly Mack.
:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 07:27 PM
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3. Recommend. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:28 PM
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14. Thank you, babylonsister
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 07:33 PM
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4. I wrote Gabrielle Giffords when the Red Cross stuff came out
Wouldn't hurt to do it again.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:22 PM
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9. I'll be using the Red Cross for a source, of course!
and Thank you!
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 07:59 PM
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5. I will join you, Solly.
Thanks for encouraging action.

K&R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:23 PM
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10. Thank you, brer cat!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:10 PM
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6. K&R for justice over political expediency.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:26 PM
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11. The UN Convention Against Torture group is meeting in a few days
They'll be in session for a few weeks. I'm hoping to get my letter in by then.

Thanks, Tierra_y_Libertad.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:14 PM
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7. thank you, thank you, thank you!
let us all join in, and make some noise!!
:bounce:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:27 PM
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12. Yes...as much noise as we can!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:54 PM
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15. I'm sending this to my Senators and Congressman.....
I guess I might as well send it to the White House as well...

I am writing to you regarding the torture memos that were just released. We've been reading these stories for years, and I didn't think it was possible for new information to phase me one way or another, but I was wrong. These memos reveal a cunning, devious, intricate legal finding to allow a nation to wholly act with brutality and disregard for any human life. The controlled, specific directions to provide the thinnest thread of legal cover for what the whole world considers torture is mind bending. It's one thing to torture. It's quite another to legalize it in such minute detail. I have no idea how to make this right. But I do know that some action is necessary. It is impossible to look away. The totality of the destruction to our country and from our country can not be reconciled in any way. There isn't enough rationalization in the world. Believe me I've tried. Past empires have behaved with human cruelty and depravity, and they all suffered their fates. I believe we will too. I just wish there were some way to at least have our government appear to care, appear to have a conscious. I hope that you and your colleagues can find some way to act. Do anything, but do something. Thank you.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 09:05 PM
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17. That's really good!
Thank you!!!!
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:55 PM
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16. Thank you for trying. I hope it does some good, but if your
reps are anything like mine, it won't. I've been asking for two years, at least, and the answers never make sense to me or my friends. But we'll all keep trying for as long as it takes.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 09:06 PM
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18. I honestly don't expect much
But as you said, we have to keep trying.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 09:11 PM
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19. K & R Solly Mack
We can do nothing or we can do something.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 10:12 PM
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22. Hey chill_wind
I've got to do something...even if it's futile.
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 10:08 PM
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20. that is good of you
I would too except that down here in Georgia it falls on deaf ears.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 10:11 PM
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21. I'm from Georgia and my sister who still lives there says the same thing.
"falls on deaf ears"

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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:37 AM
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31. I agree with you sister. All of the Bush years,
I would write them and tell them how unhappy I am with whatever Bush was doing. They would just respond back at how smitten they were with the president and acted like they were a bunch of lap dogs.Now when I write them to support Obama and what he is doing they tell me how they don't agree with what he is doing.It is so annoying.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 10:16 PM
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23. Thanks knr n/t
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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 10:23 PM
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24. K&R. nt
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 10:33 PM
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25. Like you, I keep signing petitions, telling congress persons why I'm withholding donations,
digging articles that demand a special prosecutor for torture cases, etc. etc.

The reality is that our lawmakers are above the law. There's nothing new about that and apparently it's not going to change under Obama either. Which means that this crisis of confidence that is threatening to plunge us into a economic global depression is spiraling further out of control.

This overpowering sense of helplessness swallows me up -- and then I emerge again, signing petitions, lobbying congress persons, etc., etc., etc.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 10:44 PM
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26. Go get 'em!
And let us know what kind of response you get.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 10:47 PM
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27. I sent to congress critters already
and will send to obama

Feel like spitting in the wind

Why oh why does the coverup after Iran Contra is so present in my mind?

This is an empire, period, and the leaders have lost all sense of morality because that is what an empire demands

Sad, but many Americans have as well, instead of being outraged, they are trying to splain this in all kinds of torturous ways
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:18 AM
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29. K&R
Send them this video to remind them of what people used to do with war criminals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFSsRTDACCo
I will, too.


:hi:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:23 AM
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30. This is exaclty what is needed. Holder said,
before he takes an action, he looks at two points:

1-Will it stand up Constitutional scrutiny.

2-Will it stand up to scrutiny from the American People.

He is working on the legal side of it, diligently. We have to let him and Obama know that We not only support it, bu DEMAND it!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:35 PM
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32. Kick
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