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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 07:33 AM Original message |
How Obama Excused Torture-By Bruce Fein: "Obama Has Set A Precedent Of Whitewashing WH Lawlessness" |
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empyreanisles (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. Stop posting this tripe here. NOW. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 07:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Why do you consider it tripe? |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. bwahahaha |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. What's tripe? Every inch of it is true. Are you uncomfortable with |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Fein broke with GWB and the Rs on this issue. He's a lawyer. nt |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Who the fuck do you think YOU are? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. You have got to be KIDDING. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Thank you king of the Internet. n/t |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 07:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Compose a counter-argument. Someday. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
45. LMAO.. you're telling kpete what to post |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. This will be an unpopular post for some here, but thank you Kpete. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
4. I wonder why the instant gratification crowd is satisfied with the small amout of info we've gotten |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I understand things take time, and that prosecutions can't come NOW! |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I've yet to see an absolute refusal, except for the ones ordered to do the torture. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I have not given up hope that may be the case. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. It is bullshit posts like this that cause many to dismiss DU's Glenn Beck left teabaggers |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Transcript of Emmanuel on This Week: |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Notice how Emanuel said torture was "banned," but not "illegal" |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. When you post a bunch of blatantly false crap, people will dismiss whatever else you have to say. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 07:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
43. "DU Glenn Beck left teabaggers" ?! Kpete?! |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I wasn't responding to kpete |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. My apologies for not following the thread correctly. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. That would be disheartening to hear - and I have yet to hear that. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. The message on torture was loud and clear and unambiguous |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Iirc, there is language in the Geneva torture convention |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Is it being ignored? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. It has been ignored for years. n/t |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. The one body chosen by all signatories to be the definitive voice on whether torture |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. There is a new report that is quite damning. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 06:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
41. I respect your opinions (yours and the one above) |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Except it's not going to be a matter of time. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 06:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
40. the whole "give it time argument" is wearing thin |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
8. He follows a long line of "democrats" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Lee Hamilton ... Bill Clinton ...John Breaux ... Lieberman...BFEE should've been jailed by 1994. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. the "democrats" do nothing, |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. and they sabotage any honest Democrat working for accountability and open government. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
17. Thanks kpete. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
20. Didn't Bill Clinton already do that? nt |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
21. Why "move on" and "bipartisan" descriptions aren't wise. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
22. There is no such thing as.... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Good one. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
48. and even when they are Democratic presidents ordering rendition.... |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
26. Precedent? Paging Gerald Ford |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The Warren Commission has a prior claim, doesn't it? n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. and WHO deepsixed BCCI matters throughout the 90s? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
35. Precedent? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
38. K&R n/t |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
39. kpete -- I ALWAYS look forward to your posts. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
49. Good article, kpete. Fein has it right. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
50. Does anyone here not believe that President Obama is reconsidering his previous position? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
51. So because he announced Holder would have a free hand, he is "dangerous to the republic." |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
52. Thank you, Bruce Fein, for "Making Obama Do The Right Thing!" |
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