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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 04:29 PM
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Oh Yes, This is Crystal Clear. Like Cement
i love the terminology. lowlevel presence. since we're talking about a contamination that can and will spread through a field and has been proven (in the cae of grass pollen and corn pollen at least) to have the ability to travel and infect fields five(5) miles away from the originating plant, a *low level presence* can be devastating. one of my brain tumors was a low level presence but that din't stop it from almost killing me and drastically changing my life. and we're supposed to trust bushco science on this? are these the same scientists that din't acknowledge global warming until a year or so ago? c'mon. we know that that the USDA labcoats are simply biding their time until they go back to work for the big buck$ at monsanto, syngenta, ADM or the like, and that 90% of the time their science and their data is gonna show minimalimpact but all it takes is one contamination to put an organic farmer out of business if s/he depends on the certification.

original-grainnet

Date Posted: Mar. 27 2007

USDA Clarifies Policy on Low-Level Presence of Genetically Engineered Material

Washington, DC--The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service is clarifying the existing approach for handling situations in which regulated genetically engineered (GE) plant material becomes mixed at low levels with commercial seeds and grain. This policy is not new, but rather a description of how APHIS currently evaluates and responds to these incidents.

In light of continuing international discussions regarding low-level presence (LLP), APHIS is taking this opportunity to formally state our approach.

One of APHIS’ roles is to protect plant health by overseeing the importation, movement and field testing of regulated GE material.

A major focus is ensuring appropriate confinement of such material in field tests.

Developers must comply with all APHIS regulations and permit conditions to prevent the release of regulated GE material.

However, when LLP incidents occur, the agency’s policy is to respond with actions appropriate to the level of risk, determined by a scientific assessment and warranted by the facts in each case.

APHIS will initiate an inquiry whenever regulated material is mixed with commercial seeds or grain to evaluate any risk, to determine the circumstances surrounding the release and to determine whether remedial and/or enforcement actions may be appropriate.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 04:51 PM
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1. OK, Which is it?
Does this administration believe in creationism or science?

"Say Anything" must be the new mantra at the WH.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 04:58 PM
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2. Say Anything.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 05:21 PM
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3. the thing is, low level presence is still a catastrofuck.
true, 20 stalks of GMO corn inan organic cornfield is , i guess, a smaller catasrophe than 200 or 2000, but if it's an organic farmer's cornfield, he's ruined. the USDAA is playing fucking games here w/ people's livelihoods, not to mention the health of the planet or the health of the people. all these mofos pushing this shit on us tellking us how great it is, *none* of their claims have held up. GMO crops don't use less pesticides, they use more, in some cases lots more. they claim they're on the verge of a drought tolerant variety that will be a miracle almost. organic/bio-dynamic farming methods already withstand drought conditions 3 times better than conventionally grown crops simply because the soil is healthy and thus the plants are healthy and able to withstand the stress. at best any GMO that can equal that is years away.but you can't patent organic. you can't make millions off of organic sitting in a boardroom and that's why this shit is happening all the time. the agricorps spent millions trying to convince us that GMOs were the saviour of organics. w/ GMOs we'd never hafta apply pesticides again! and when we said but this shit ain't real they pshawed us and said of course it's real. look i own the patent to it right here!har! well thank-you sir , but don't call us we'll call you. and that's when campaigns against organics started, w/ industrial Ag even saying eating organic food would make you sick because we din't use synthetic fertilizers and pesticides. but now we let these sonsabitches sell this stuff to us w/out even having to label it! and if they're so proud of their work, why are they afraid to let people know what they're buying? me, i'm happy to sign my name to anything i do. WTF ain't they?
/rant

sorry bout that...
i'm gonna go grab a cupppa decaf now
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 06:57 PM
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4. I worry that these GM crops may somehow sterilize other crops and
famine will spread world-wide. Need to do some research on it.

I just read something recently about bees and the GM crops possibly being responsible for the disappearance of 40?% of them, iirc.

What a fucking mess, science with no concerns of consequences.
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