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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:18 AM
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We're Likely To Hear A Lot Of This...
Get ready for more r/w whining. In fact, for the next 4-8 years, it will be deafening.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_05/017986.php


WE'RE LIKELY TO HEAR A LOT OF THIS.... In February, when Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's health concerns made it seem like a high court vacancy was imminent, President Obama got quite a bit of advice from the media establishment. This item, from Newsweek's Stuart Taylor, is the kind of perspective we're probably going hear a lot of as the White House weighs a replacement for Justice David Souter.

Conservatives concede that the Democrat-led Senate would almost certainly confirm any Obama nominee, absent any damaging revelation. But the more liberal the nominee, the more contentious the confirmation hearings will be. The president's stance as a consensus builder might suffer if his first choice seems likely to support liberal causes such as gay marriage. <...>

When it's Obama's turn to pick a nominee, he'll either sacrifice some political good will or he'll upset his base. There's not much middle ground.


This is exactly the kind of perspective the White House would be wise to ignore, no matter how common it becomes among the chattering class.

The argument is straightforward: while Bush picked rigidly conservative justices, Obama should only consider centrists. To do otherwise might upset Republicans and "sacrifice" political "good will."

Except, of course, Republicans are going to be upset anyway -- assuming Obama doesn't nominate a Federalist Society member -- and have no intention of offering any "good will."
If the president picks a high court nominee solely on the basis of Republican sensibilities and avoiding a "contentious" process, he'll be unnecessarily governing from a position of weakness. That's backwards -- Obama enjoys strong approval ratings and a huge Democratic majority in the Senate.

When all is said and done, one of any president's lasting legacies is the jurists he/she picks for the high court. Why worry about whether the discredited minority party is happy with his choice?

As Digby noted in February, "It's pretty clear that {Obama} will be expected to nominate moderate judges who aren't considered 'activists' or risk a full blown hissy fit of epic proportions and once again be said to risk his agenda. ('Give me everything I want, or I'll accuse you of partisanship!') If Obama worries about that, he'll end up pushing an already right wing court further right, and that is unthinkable."

If the White House is open to suggestions, I might recommend Dahlia Lithwick's recent piece on the kind of justice Obama should consider. Lithwick argued that Obama should, in effect, look for a liberal Scalia -- a persuasive and passionate visionary with a decidedly progressive worldview.

—Steve Benen
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:20 AM
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1. YEP! Get ready to fight this. I'm pissed already!
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:21 AM
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2. Let the rethugs whine, it's about the only thing they do right.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:16 PM
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7. They've done little else lately. You know we can expect it. nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:25 AM
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3. Excellent points. . The drumbeat has already started...
Joey Scabrous claimed that "Democrats always get hysterical and ideological over Court nominations.. Republicans are usually kind of "go along, get along". He did this on his show, and he did it again on MSNBC later in the morning...

He is positioning the dialog by trying to establish the "conventional wisdom" for people like Chuck Todd & Gregory to feed off.

The other push is that "Identity Politics" will be the primary concern. They will talk a lot, about Hispanic this and Woman that.. then come roaring out of the gate about "the most radical, activist, divisive appointment EVAH". .


. . . just. you. watch.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:28 AM
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4. I don't think he should pick anybody over the age of 45
This nominee should be set to make decisions for the next 35 years.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:34 AM
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5. Mustn't jeopardize that 'political good will' they're so generously giving us...
:sarcasm:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:45 AM
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6. I think he should nominate anyone who protested against the bush regime
and got arrested for excercising their constitutional rights.


won't happen, but that would be interesting.


:)
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:22 PM
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8. K&R for a super liberal appointment ! The GOP even slammed Dawn Johnsen
Edited on Fri May-01-09 12:22 PM by Overseas
for DOJ for a FOOTNOTE in a report she wrote twenty years ago.

So they'll slam any nominee centrist or more liberal, of President Obama's.

Therefore, let's do like Bush did with appointing super-conservative Alito-- put in a very liberal judge and ignore the carping that is sure to come.

Let's do like Bush did with Roberts-- he pushed a pro-corporate Chief Justice on us so let's be sure to get a pro-public, pro-labor judge in there.
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:23 PM
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9. Republicans
would get upset if the sky turned red
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:32 AM
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16. You're assuming they would notice
I don't give many of them that much credit.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:48 PM
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10. The Repubs have no intention of offering any good will, and we know it.
Edited on Fri May-01-09 01:24 PM by Richard Steele
So we shouldn't be too concerned about it.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:57 PM
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11. that's right
it's worse than useless to coddle the dying republicans. they will bite the hand that feeds them, cut off their noses to spite their face, and any other trite saying you can think of to say that they are too perverse and politically obsessed to work with.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 01:22 PM
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12. Oh LET them whine. Obama should pick a liberal - a YOUNG liberal...
...and WHAT "political good will" ?

I've yet to see any from the nincompoops. Pfft!
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 01:26 PM
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13. They'll cry and whine no matter what, so why not nominate the most liberal justice available?
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 01:41 PM
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14. let obama even the scales of justice...
...and nominate "far leftists" to counter the obvious "far rightist" judges (any arguments about this?) bush appointed (and previous repubs). after that we can look for individual balance.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:24 AM
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15. May their tears fill the bathtub they built ...
until they confess that drowning is torture.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:35 AM
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17. regardless of whom Obama picks the thugs will vilify him/her
it doesn't matter who he chooses
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:38 AM
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18. To The Victor Belongs The Spoils...Obama Won
So fuck 'em.
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