Caroline Kennedy for the Supreme Court

[Octafish]

Just a thought.

[dysfunctional press]

1. based on what exactly?

:shrug:

[Octafish]

9. She'd make a good Associate Justice.

In fact, she'd make an excellent Chief Justice.

Don't you think she'd be better than John Roberts?

[MajorChode]

69. I think a pile of dogshit in my backyard would be better than John Roberts

But that really has little to do with whether Caroline Kennedy would be the best choice or not.

[Octafish]

74. How profound.

[YDogg]

2. meh

why?

[Octafish]

11. She'd carry out what the country lost on November 22, 1963.

That is, in its philosophy, an important member of our Judicial branch might put Peace before War.

[anonymous171]

31. Oh god not more Kennedy cultism. nt

[bottomtheweaver]

37. hey it's just a suggestion.

I don't know that Ocatfish was being 100% serious, but personally I think it's a great idea for exactly the reason he expressed.

[Octafish]

62. Completely serious.

The reason I wrote: "Just a thought" is that evil people can kill a man, but they can't kill an idea.

[WI_DEM]

64. DU would be calling JFK a DINO if he were pushing today the same policies he did as president

slow on civil rights, not wanting to upset the southern chairmen
favored tax cuts for the wealthy
big time cold warrior
and yes, he and his "best and brightest" were pushing the US further into Vietnam.

[Octafish]

68. No. Kennedy did all he could to keep the world at peace.

During the CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion, the CIA told him he'd have to send in the Air Force, Navy, Marines and Army -- after telling him the invasion would succeed without them. JFK said, "No. No need to start a war." For more: Know your BFEE: Lies Are the Currency of Their Realm.

During the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Joint Chiefs and most of the Cabinet screamed at Kennedy to bomb Cuba and knock out the missiles. JFK said, "No. Let's see if we can avoid nuclear war." For more: Know your BFEE: At every turn, JFK was opposed by War Party.

During the run-up to Vietnam, the CIA and Pentagon told JFK that ground troops were needed for victory. Kennedy said the conflict was a civil war to be decided by the Vietnamese people and that the United States could not win a land war in Southeast Asia. So he signed National Security Action Memorandum 263 which ordered the U.S. advisors out. A few weeks later, he was dead and LBJ signed NSAM 273 which, basically, reversed JFK's orders and provided the framework for the escalation in the coming years. Know your BFEE: Hitler’s Bankers Shaped Vietnam War.

[bottomtheweaver]

3. Perfect.

And why not?

[Inspired]

4. Oh this will be good.

:popcorn:

[fishwax]

27. indeed

:popcorn:

[UndertheOcean]

5. And why is she qualified for that ?

[DJ13]

14. Are you aware that you dont even need a law license to be a USSC Justice?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

72. She is an attorney.

[polichick]

6. Too controversial - both sides would have a field day with it.

[bottomtheweaver]

10. They had a field day with Thomas, and he was seated.

Surely Caroline is as qualified as Thomas?

[polichick]

12. Oh yes, it's possible - I just don't think "No drama, Obama" would do that.

[bottomtheweaver]

18. Well, since we're supposedly in the middle of a worldwide pandemic,

who's going to notice? :)

[polichick]

26. LOL - Well, Caroline would be okay with me. I worked with her during the campaign...

...and found her bright, dedicated and very conscientious ~ I don't doubt she could do the job.

[konnichi wa]

28. Well, nothing like setting the bar (as it were) -there-...

ewww

[bottomtheweaver]

29. Yes I suppose that's a fairly low bar, but if Thomas got over it,

I don't see why Caroline couldn't.

[Thothmes]

59. Just what we need,on the Supreme Court of the United States

another justice "as qualified as Thomas"

[nichomachus]

39. Right, let's just go right to Ken Starr and get it over with -- no drama there

[polichick]

40. Apparently you didn't read my post #12

[nichomachus]

43. Not sure why that's "apparent."

[polichick]

49. Huh? It's apparent why it's apparent. :)

[nichomachus]

51. Apparently, it's not

[mzteris]

7. surely you forgot this?

:sarcasm:

[boomerbust]

8. BLAGO

I knew a good job would open up for him.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

16. Only if they televize the sessions

otherwise, he's not interested.

Unless, well, maybe he can rule on the Franken case. I bet he could sell his opinion for a princely sum.

[Mike 03]

13. Why is she qualified for this??? NT

[bottomtheweaver]

17. Have you read her bio?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Kennedy

nice picture too!

[anigbrowl]

32. Yes. She is an attorney but has no legal career to speak of.

She's never been a judge, a law teacher, head of a law review or anything like that. There is no way she would be confirmed.

[Smarmie Doofus]

41. Her singular "achievement" professionally was as.....

... and "educational advocate" in the NYC Dept of Education.

Long since debunked as a made-up politicial nonsense job at which she worked little and accomplished less:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=219x11877

We're talking about the Supreme Court. The *SUPREME COURT*.

[polmaven]

89. Why is she NOT qualified?

n/t

[crimsonblue]

15. why does her name have to keep coming up?

it's getting annoying.

[Thothmes]

60. "Kennedy" not other explaniation,

the cult of Camelot is alive and well.

[960]

19. She is in no way qualified for the position.

Even less so than she was to be a US Senator.

What's the deal with thinking she deserves to be instantly elevated to a very high position in the government?

[bottomtheweaver]

20. Had you heard of Roberts before he was nominated?

I hadn't.

[960]

21. Yes, and while I strongly disagree with his views, he had judicial experience.

[bottomtheweaver]

22. He didn't have enough to administer an oath without fumbling.

Irrelevant, I know, but come on, this anti-Caroline thing is kind of irrational.

[960]

23. I love Caroline Kennedy.

I just don't think she is fit to serve on the US Supreme Court.

Quit making everything personal.

[bottomtheweaver]

24. Ok, it's not personal. I think she's perfectly qualified.

She's an attorney, she's written on the bill of rights, she's a Dem, she's a Kennedy, and yes that counts for a lot. So I'd love to see her on the bench.

[cherokeeprogressive]

30. Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah she's a Kennedy. blah.

All of the other words are just filler. She's a Kennedy. Nothing else needs to be spoken on the subject.

Why hasn't she been seated already? Then there would be TWO Kennedys on the SC. Who cares if Anthony Kennedy isn't related; he's got the name! Songbirds will sound sweeter, butterflies will be more colorful and love to play with dogs, and worldwide weather will be forecast to be fair and mild until the end of the century.

Dontcha see?

[bottomtheweaver]

33. So why should that disqualify her?

It's an assert, sure. Why wouldn't it be?

[madinmaryland]

25. NO. nt

[struggle4progress]

34. There are plenty of qualified people. Do we really want American politics to be based on dynastic

status or celebrity surnames?

[bottomtheweaver]

35. Have you heard of our new Secretary of State?

You might want to look into it. :hi:

[anonymous171]

47. Hillary Clinton was a Senator and a First Lady. nt

[struggle4progress]

48. I think she's highly qualified, and I would have supported her for President, absent dynastic issues

If you search DU archives, you'll find I repeatedly argued exactly that point about her throughout the last election cycle

[L. Coyote]

36. Or, search the phone book for a younger Kennedy who is Hispanic and black!

Geeeez!

[Lavender Brown]

38. I'm as much of a Kennedy fan as anyone, but no. (nt)

[Mike 03]

42. Okay, okay, she might be qualified: Do we want anyone who is qualified or do we want the best?

It's not enough to be qualified.

Clarence Thomas was qualified.

Bork was qualified enough to be nominated.

We need excellence.

She is not distinguished in any way at all as an attorney. She's adequate, but I don't believe she is a serious contender for SCOTUS. No way.

And no offense. I love the Kennedy dynasty.

But this is bullshit. She's not SC material.

[obliviously]

67. Nothing more

needs to be said your posts is 100% correct. time to go read other topics thank you for your common sense.

[kiva]

44. Why? Oh yeah, she's a Kennedy--

so she must be a great candidate. I admire what Ted Kennedy has accomplished, and was a massive Bobby K. fan, but neither one was qualified just by virtue of their name, and Caroline isn't either.

[nichomachus]

45. What Obama needs to do

is what the right has done so successfully.

Nominate the most far-left, out-there wacky proto-socialist person he can find -- so far left that even we don't like him/her.

Let the right wing fuss and fume and shriek and oppose.

Then, withdraw the nomination and nominate a real progressive that we can all get behind -- and fuck the whiners on the right, because they had their tantrum already.

[Chemisse]

53. No need for Obama to pull gimmicks

He'll have plenty of support for whoever he chooses (except of course if he does something silly, like nominate Carolyn Kennedy).

[nichomachus]

55. You haven't been paying attention

Obama's first nominee -- unless it's a corporate lobbyist -- will be "Borked" beyond all human endurance. So, he might as well throw them some red meat.

[Chemisse]

56. Why? He has a majority in both houses of Congress

Maybe the Republicans will kick up a fuss, but it shouldn't matter one bit. The Dems will approve whoever Obama nominates.

[nichomachus]

61. My advice for you: Stay out of poker games for money

Obama does not have the votes for a slam-dunk nomination. So far, Obama has shown himself to be in thrall to Wall Street. He will not go against them on this.

[Danger Mouse]

46. I don't think that's a very good idea.

[Beacool]

50. Oh geez, Caroline again?

How about letting her get her feet wet first and let her run for office like any other politician before we decide to give her one of the highest ranking jobs in the nation?

:eyes:

[BooScout]

52. Surely you jest

:eyes:

[LostInAnomie]

54. Do you have any reason to believe that she would be a decent justice?

[Thothmes]

57. No, never, just a thought.

[formercia]

58. Sounds good to me.

I would feel for her, having to argue the merits of a case with the likes of Thomas or Scalia.

[Octafish]

63. I heard her cousin call Scalia's father a supporter of the fascist cause in the USA during WW II.

Robert Kennedy, Jr. spoke at Wayne State University in 2007.
He also called Bush a "son of a bitch" and the rest of his cronies "crooks."
It brought down the house, with professors, students, administrators and members of the general public going wild with applause and cheers.

[Jim Lane]

66. RFK Jr. would be a better choice than Caroline

Still a bit thin on the resume, to my mind, but I'd rather defend his nomination than hers.

They're both the right age, though. Obama should go for longevity. For example, this might be a bit hypocritical coming from him, but he should rule out anyone who smokes.

[Me.]

65. I Like This Idea

Even though I don't see it happening. But hey, why not put it put there. You never know.

[Octafish]

82. Who'd a thought a racist vote-suppressing turd would become Chief Justice?

But it happened.

Let's have some good-hearted, intelligent and kind people have a chance at shaping the country's future on the Supreme Court. For a change.

Thanks for understanding, my Friend!

[Me.]

85. Good Description Of Caroline

"good-hearted, intelligent and kind".

[SpartanDem]

70. Can you say Harriet Miers part 2?

[paulsby]

71. lol. get real

she's an intellectual lightweight. did you see her interviews?

i don't care WHAT her last name is. fwiw, i went to school with one of the kennedy kids. he was a great guy, and quite eloquent and intelligent.

[tomp]

73. how about an actual progressive jurist? nt

[SoCalDem]

75. Why not Octomom?

:rofl:

[Octafish]

80. Octomom would be better than Scalia, Roberts, Thomas, and Alito,

There are a couple more from recent history she'd beat, too.

[ruggerson]

76. hopefully a very brief one

n/t

[Samantha]

77. She wrote a Constiutional-based book on privacy issues

That for one qualifies her.

Who here thinks we don't need a person who thinks like this on the Supreme Court? The fact her last name is Kennedy should not prejudice people here against here.

Sam

[JDPriestly]

78. You've got to be joking, Octafish. Not all lawyers are qualified

to sit on the Supreme Court. Social connections aren't of much use there. No way. Not that there is anything wrong with her, but there are just so many more highly qualified choices than Ms. Kennedy.

[Octafish]

79. There are more qualified choices, my Friend...

...whether weighed by C.V. or history or professional associations or other important criteria. My point is that her father was murdered by treasonous, powerful, warmongering interests who've hijacked democratic government and an independent judiciary. Her presence on the Supreme Court would, I hope, help return the nation to a path of peace.

[JDPriestly]

86. I don't know much about her. Just how her sitting on the Supreme

Court would return the nation to peace is unclear to me.

I wish that Caroline Kennedy would demand full disclosure of all documents concerning the assassination of her father and a reopening of the investigation of the assassination of her father. She would probably gain a lot of respect if she stood and insisted that the record be made clear on the events surrounding his assassination.

Above all, I wish she would insist on an investigation of the order that called the Secret Service agent covering the back of her father's car away from the back right before the assassination. That had never been explained.

[Marr]

81. It's not going to be any sort of media darling.

That includes Hillary Clinton.

Obama is a former professor of Constitutional Law. Surely he's got a list of people more qualified that any of these familiar names. I hope he uses it.

[aikoaiko]

83. I don't see how her assets would be useful on SCOTUS.

Sure, she is a decent liberal voice and general supporter of progressive issues, but her real stength is her social networking and gravitas which would have been useful as a legislator, but less so as a SCOTUS judge.

[Kablooie]

84. Diana Ross would be a better pick.

[Control-Z]

87. She is not qualified, imo.

Not in the least.

[Orsino]

88. Let's hold out for Arnold.

Schwarzenegger or Gary Coleman.

[Raskolnik]

90. No. And the desire for an American royal family that takes whatever office it fancies

without regard to qualification is disconcerting.