I hope Obama picks a gay judge/lawyer for the SCOTUS position....

[crimsonblue]

LBGT's are every bit as human as every heterosexual person out there, and deserve equal representation under the law. I sincerely hope that President Obama selects a homosexual judge or lawyer to fill Justice Souter's seat on the bench. Could republicans really oppose him/her based solely on sexual orientation? Do you know how much that conflict in Congress would move gay relations forward? It's time that our gay brothers and sisters have the ability to come out of the darkness and live a free Americans in a country that affirms the right of all peoples.

EDIT: I didn't realize that the use of the word "homosexual" would piss so many people off. I'm sorry. I've always heard homosexual used as a noun, and it certainly was not meant as a pejorative.

[AnOhioan]

1. I agree on principle.....

I also agree because I would love to see wingnut heads explode all over the country. :)

[seemslikeadream]

2. A female Hispanic liberal homosexual judge/lawyer

;)

[DevonRex]

6. I'm leaning more toward a male hispanic homosexual judge/lawyer

who plays the guitar like Jimmy Page. Can't help it. I've always been partial to gay guys. And to Jimmy Page.

[seemslikeadream]

11. (*_*)

[geckosfeet]

3. I hope that he picks a good solid liberal who knows the constitution is not

for shredding when the opportunity arises. I hope that the nominee will uphold fair elections.

I don't care what sex they are or what sex they have.

[Bucky]

29. ibid.

thanks

[Deja Q]

4. Let's all study law then there'll be a better chance of getting in.

Still, I can't really argue against your post; especially when the media paints us all out as being nasty little monsters that just spread disease (I loathe stereotypes, even to the point where I will speak up against things that help promote stereotypes, so I might not be around in June because I'm bound to get flamed for my opinions over a certain event that I spoke about 4 years ago and have no intentions of doing so ever again because of the bullshit responses, but I digress). If there were three people - equally qualified - how is the deciding factor put into place, and the repercussions for the 2 that don't get it. Especially if they are not white males. We're so cordoned off by niche characteristics than what counts: Being objective and thinking of the whole. I want somebody objective in the part, and I don't care about the color, sexual orientation, or anything else, as long as the person is law abiding. Is that too much to ask for?

I think lots of hetero white males aren't paranoid and aren't out to keep their homosexual countrymen down either. It's not 1950 any longer.

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[konnichi wa]

14. You should say something like "a homosexual judge/justice"

Sorry to belabor the point but there's no such thing as "a" homosexual.
:-)

[KittyWampus]

7. Roberts is gay

[konnichi wa]

10. Not to be argumentative, but there is no such thing as "a homosexual".

The word is an adjective, not a noun. Like Democratic. :D

[KittyWampus]

12. you are absolutely correct. I was responding to the OP, used wrong phrasing. Just changed it.

And sorry I couldn't get back to my post any faster to change it. :blush:

[konnichi wa]

17. No worries, it's just one of my pet peeves aka linguistic hangups.

Thankya


:D
:toast:

[konnichi wa]

20. No worries, it's just one of my pet peeves aka linguistic hangups.

Thankya


:D
:toast:

[Bucky]

18. I don't think we each get to reengineer the English language at will

The word "homosexual" is most certainly used as a noun by millions of people. It is therefor a noun.

[konnichi wa]

25. And the word "loose" is used as a verb by millions of idiots.

Doesn't mean it is one.

[Bucky]

28. Are you familiar with the debate between prescriptive vs descriptive linguistics?

The verb "loose" is incorrect when it's used by someone who thinks they're using the verb "lose". But people using "homosexual" as a noun certainly intend to use that word. Heck, it's in the dictionary as a noun.

You may find its use or application offensive; it might not be that hard to convince me, too, that it is offensive. But it would then be an offensive noun. There's plenty of those in the English language. Their offensiveness doesn't make them cease to exist as words.

[Bucky]

36. PS, Regarding " 'Loose' as a verb.

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.

[Obamanaut]

41. "Loose" can be used as noun, verb, or adjective:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/loose

Loose the hounds! verb, release the dogs

Eighteen cents in loose change. adjective

The escapee has been on the loose for three days. noun

[Obamanaut]

40. What about this

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexual<1>

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexual<2>

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/homosexual

noun and/or adjective, according to them

[dbackjon]

13. And you know this how?

[Bucky]

15. Wrong.

This came up during the Larry Craig mess. My politically astute gay friends set me straight (ha!) on this score. In that case, his public indecency was the indecency of man who identified himself to the world as a straight man. The shame and ridicule he brought to the Congress and his own family were the shame and ridicule earned by straight man.

So no matter what Mr Roberts does with his willie, the fact is that he's a self-identifying heterosexual. He lives the straight lifestyle, he presents himself as straight, and the moral atrocities he passes down from the bench are the judgments of a professing heterosexual.

Wherever and with whomever the chief justice bangs his gavel is none of my business and discussions of it do not belong in the public square. If he starts professing a different orientation, then he'll be part of an oppressed minority. If he sticks with his story, accurate or not, he is not part of that minority; he's just their oppressor.

[KittyWampus]

24. "He lives the straight lifestyle". You know, if someone on DU posted that sentence using the word

"gay" instead of "straight" there'd be hell to pay.

I am not going to argue with you.

He obviously lived openly enough to get a photo of himself taken with two other men posing around a pie.

Edit- but ultimately, you are correct. I have to admit to not knowing with certainty and who really cares anyway.

The important thing is his record on the SCOTUS.

Which would bring us back to the opening post. How would we know if nominee is gay if they aren't really open about it?

[Bucky]

31. I didn't know about that picture.

I'd love to get a look at it. I'm not sure "posing around a pie" constitutes a preference for same gender romance, unless you're using the word "pie" as a euphemism that I may not understand.

We're free to draw whatever inferences about his behavior we wish. If you ask a man if he's gay, I think you have to respect his answer. It's a free country (no thanks to Roberts & friends). Like race and religion, sexual orientation is a demographic category subject to a complex web of personal reaffiliation and arbitrary social impositions.

The facts are easier to deal with if we begin with a pro-choice, pro-freedom orientation. You get to say what you are, demographically, and the rest of us ought to respect it.

[IntravenousDemilo]

27. Roy Cohn was also a self-identifying heterosexual. He just liked to fuck guys. n/m

[Bucky]

33. I'm more interested in how he fucked the Bill of Rights

Who Roberts co-diddles with is only relevant if we intend to blackmail him. If not, then the purpose of calling him out as gay is using homosexuality as an insult. I don't cotton to that--I think it undermines the whole notion of respect and toleration that we should, as liberals, both preach and practice.

[Baby Snooks]

44. That was just a nasty rumor...

Spread by J Edgar Hoover.

[Baby Snooks]

43. He is?

I thought Souter was gay. OMG. Two of them! :crazy:

[NightWatcher]

8. How about an intelligent Liberal judge regardless of gender, ethnicity, or sexual preference?

Best person for the job would be a good thing regardless of label

[Adelante]

30. There you go

:thumbsup:

[-..__...]

37. You realize you already labeled any potential nominee...

when you stated a "Liberal judge".

How a bout an intelligent nominee regardless of gender, ethnicity, sexual preference, political affiliation or social compass.

[NightWatcher]

38. nope, I want a Liberal. It's our turn. It's why some of us worked so hard to get Obama in

I'd like a defender of the Bill Of Rights and the Constitution...and legal marijuana too

[cherokeeprogressive]

9. I was kind of hoping for a Native American myself.

Every bit as human as every person out there, and deserve equal representation under the law.

[Number23]

39. I'd love that too. That's the very least that they deserve

[Egnever]

16. They wouldnt openly opose him/her for that reason

well the way they are acting lately maybe they would but I doubt it. It would be cool to watch em squirm though.

[Arkana]

19. I think it'll happen soon--maybe not with this nominee, seeing as how he/she will be the first...

but if I were Obama I'd vet and choose someone now while my popularity was in the stratosphere. Filibustering by the Republicans will make them look stupid, and pundits will inevitably drag up the "up or down vote" gem the Republicans loved to use when Dubya was squatting in the White House.

Plus we have 59 Dems, plus Olympia Snowe who I can probably guarantee will vote for our nominee than I can Ben Nelson or Arlen Specter.

[LisaM]

21. Gay Jewish woman with a couple of kids (that she and her partner adopted)

and with a healthy portion of Native American heritage.

[The Straight Story]

26. Who smokes and drives an SUV, and breastfed at olive garden

:)

[Bucky]

34. If Obama nominates a practicing Olive Gardenist to the SCOTUS I'm voting Green in 2013!

Grrr-fuckin'-rrr.

[JackBeck]

22. I'd prefer a Negro womanly kind of judge/lawyer.

[crimsonblue]

35. you may think I was being slanderous...

but I really wasn't. I don't know the proper usage of the term homosexual, and certainly had no intent of being offensive. Or maybe its the fact that I singled out a gay person for Obama to choose. In that case, I won't apologize. We are not yet at the point in our country's social dialogue that we can disregard race, gender, or sexual orientation. Giving historically discriminated-against groups public equality, as having a gay Justice would do, is unfortunately necessary to reach the point of total equality in our society.

[Bucky]

23. I'm hoping that he picks a Texan so that we can show the world that Texas has liberals too

Actually, I don't care at all what the demographics are. I believe that if the president consistantly selects candidates who represent the most enlightened and rigorous of legal expertise in the country, we will necessarily achieve a healthy diversity on the bench.

[Butch350]

32. Such as who?

[Obamanaut]

42. I hope Obama picks a qualified person for the SCOTUS position. nt