I Want An Unabashedly Liberal Supreme Court Justice

[Cronus Protagonist]

Recommend if you agree.

Personally, I want someone who is as liberal as Scalia is fascistic in order to BEGIN to balance the court. I also want he felonious five impeached and replaced with centrists.

see http://cronus.com/scotus

[NJmaverick]

1. I want a liberal justice who is not thought of as liberal, so they don't get easily dimissed

I want a liberal judge who is intelligent and a good debater, so that they might sway other justices to their way of thinking.

[TahitiNut]

5. So, a liberal has to be a "closeted" liberal?

Interesting. :eyes:

[Cronus Protagonist]

9. Nice comparison, TN!

That "I prefer closeted gays" argument was so effective for gay folk in the 50's! The same one used for liberals is just as offensive.

[TahitiNut]

12. I guess I'm just tired of thirty years of "shame" for being a liberal.

I'm tired of "Democrats" using "leftist" as a epithet. I'm sick and tired of hearing Quislings pretend they're "centrists."

:shrug:

[Cronus Protagonist]

13. Mee too

The idea that we need a liberal "closet" is a right wing propaganda conception. I eschew everything right-wing.

[NJmaverick]

36. Funny isn't it. We have seen over and over a public figure or a news source

or a writer dismissed as just a right wingnut or forget that conservative (fill in the blank). Thankful those on the right are more open minded and don't dismiss people out of hand, because they are pigeon holed by their ideology.

[kenfrequed]

44. Is this sarchasm?

Because the world I live in most of the Right wing has had the run of the media for a long damned time. For decades political prograns would put up some moderate squishy clintonoid DlCer up against attila the hun. The left wing has been almost entirely invisible to most of the mainstream media.

[NJmaverick]

46. Yes it was sarcasism. The right is even worse than the left

The point is once you are labeled you can be easily dismissed. If you avoid the labels people are forced to address the ideas and positions you raise.

[NJmaverick]

35. lol! Wow was there a sale on strawmen at the DU store?

:rofl:

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[Cid_B]

37. So you want a liar....

nt

[NJmaverick]

38. Sigh... another from the strawman sale. I want a liberal who will be effective

you need to look over the posts at DU. Look how often the thoughts and opions (no matter how well they are reasoned) are dismissed out of hand, for coming from a right winger. Do you think those on the right are any better? YOu find someone who avoids the labels and the automic dismissals that come with them, and you find someone that can effectively champion the liberal point of view.


Your liar comment shows a lack of understanding of real world dynamics. You should get out more, talk with people across a broad spectrum of political and non-political thinking. What you would learn would be both useful and shocking

[tekisui]

2. I agree, but one of the felonious five is dead, and one retired.

I am assuming you are referring to bush v. Gore?

[Cronus Protagonist]

4. Well, dig up and burn that corpse and imprison the retiree

THEN impeach the rest prior to imprisonment.

[cali]

3. hard to tell, quite often, what you're getting.

Souter being an excellent case in point.

[BuyingThyme]

6. I don't think there's such a thing as "as liberal as Scalia is fascistic," but

I recommended.

[harun]

39. It may exist but would be hard to identify. Scalia didn't go full blown fascist

until after he was appointed.

[Justitia]

7. I want the biggest flaming liberal we can find - smart, YOUNG & aggressive.

With a big mouth to shout down the pricks on the other side. :D

[Taitertots]

8. Why not just dissolve the supreme court?

If you are going to make a mockery of its existence and purpose you should just destroy it. I seems you want the president to take over the supreme court. Why have a supreme court if they are only tools of the current administration(D or R)?

[BuyingThyme]

11. Why do you view liberals as tools of anybody?

[Taitertots]

15. Read the OP

He advocates removing any members of the supreme court he disagrees with. It makes a mockery of the supreme court. Why have a supreme court when the members are selected every term to be tools of the administration's policy? Anyone who replaces an justice removed against their will from the supreme court is a tool.

[Cronus Protagonist]

18. FAIL!

I advocated removing those who committed a FELONY, and that is called JUSTICE, my friend. Something that you appear to abhor. I don't like the tools that Georgie put on there, and they are truly tools, but I did not call for their removal.

You are demonstrating comprehension problems. Maybe you could see a doctor and se if you need to change your meds or something.

As for member selection, it is and has always been the option of the current administration to fill the court with anyone they want. And if you don't like that, you, sir, are advocating something that is anathemic to our Constitutional Republic.

[Taitertots]

21. What felonies have they been convicted of?

Until then your argument holds no water. Your assertion of a felony is not a substitute for a conviction. To my knowledge, no charges are even being considered against them.

You advocate their removal when you advocate impeaching them absent any legal basis. So when they get charged and convicted of felonies, I'm with you. Until then, your plan to impeach them and have Obama replace them is the antithesis of our system of governance.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

28. Justice is innocent until proven guilty. None of the justices has even been charged with a crime.

Much less convicted of a felony. It is you that abhors justice.

[Cronus Protagonist]

16. Excellent argument with yourself!

I re-read the OP jsut to be sure, and I'm certain that I did not want or ask or even refer to the president taking over the SCOTUS. And, oddly enough, I also did not say a thing about the SCOTUS having to be tools of the current administration.

Having said that, you shot down your own non-sequitur straw-man arguments with aplomb.

[Taitertots]

19. Read the OP

You want the "felonious five impeached". So you want the supreme court justices removed and replaced. Are these going to be your choices or the presidents who replaces them? If the president replaces them they are without question making the supreme court tools of the administration. If you replace them not only are you making a mockery of the supreme court, you are making a mockery of the president.


How about we replace them as they leave as the Constitution indicates should be done?

[Cronus Protagonist]

29. The Constituion allows for impeachment

And how about we replace the impeached as it allows?

[Taitertots]

31. Get a court to convict them,

then impeach them.

The OP made no mention of their possibility of future conviction, leading me to believe the impeachment was unrelated to that.

[noiretextatique]

48. we had a rw tool court that selected bush

and gave us 8 years of hell. i'll take an honest, competent jurist over a treasonous, unqualified rw puppet like thomas. if they happen to be extremely liberal, i'd consider that a plus.

[ColbertWatcher]

10. Erwin Chemerinsky. n/t

[proud patriot]

14. k and r

:kick:

[DefenseLawyer]

17. Most definitely agree.

I am confident the President will not consult Harry Reid, Bob Shrum or any of the other losers in our party who pee their pants whenever a republican clears his or her throat when making his decision.

[Stephanie]

20. I hate that phrase "Unabashed Liberal" - it implies that liberals should be embarrassed or ashamed

Not to pick on you, it's rare NOT to see 'unabashed' paired with 'liberal' in the press - it's a way too common construct. But WTF? When did identifying with progressive values become regarded as something embarrassing? This is a pet peeve of mine. Unabashed Rightwing Nut? Okay.

[BuyingThyme]

22. Look:

http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=unabashed&search=search

[Stephanie]

23. Yes I know. The implication of the phrase Unabashed Liberal is that it's unusual

It implies that most liberals are embarrassed to admit it, or should be.

[BuyingThyme]

24. Yeah. I just guess it would be nice to see somebody

sit down in front of the Judiciary Committee an say, "Well, Senator, I am unabashedly liberal when it comes to the rights of individuals." Something like that; something that'll make 'em scream.

[Stephanie]

26. I think it would be nice if they said 'I am a liberal" without the ridiculous qualifier

Which is the point I was trying to make.

[BuyingThyme]

27. I like "unabashed liberal" better.

[kenfrequed]

43. I think...

That many of us liberal progressive democrats have been fooled so many times by corporate-centrist democrats and beaten on by right wing ideolouges so long that we really want to be sure.

Forgive people their attachments to modifiers and adjectives of exageration and excess.

That siad we do need a clarion voice on the bench articulating the point of view of the left.

[Vincardog]

25. I also want he felonious five impeached and replaced with LIBERALS

[Cronus Protagonist]

30. Meee tooo

I hate mee too posts, but sometimes they are needed! :^P

[RedCloud]

32. Let's put revolutionaries on the court.

That way the Constitution can be interpreted by the same minds as the original authors.

[harun]

41. Works for me but not holding my breath. I think it is very unlikely they would

pick anyone out of the "establishment".

[democrat2thecore]

33. I want Thomas Geoghegan

A simple man with a brilliant legal mind. A labor lawyer from the trenches.

[LWolf]

40. I'll agree with the first part.

For the rest, I'm sick to death of centrists. If you are going to replace anyone else, replace them with someone left-of center.

I know I should be using the "balance" word, but given the opportunity, I'd never seat a centrist, or anyone right of center, in any seat of power again.

Unless you can manage to yank the center a few miles left.

[progressoid]

42. Huh?

According to my Republican colleagues, ALL judges are liberal activists. You mean some aren't? Go figure.

[Orsino]

45. I'd like two or three.

Imagine a truly balanced Court, rather than compromises between conservatives and fascists.

[Cronus Protagonist]

47. Yup, it's WAY too far to the right

And by "right", I mean WRONG.

[democrat2thecore]

50. That's an understatement, huh? You are so rig...uh...correct! -nt

[Jakes Progress]

49. This is our best chance.

Obama will likely get to name at least three members. Hopefully we can replace one of the troglodytes.

But this one is our best chance at trying to put some balance back in the court. Right now the country likes Barack and doesn't like republicans. Right now, he can push the issue. Nearer the mid-terms or after three to four years of neocon drivel from MSM, the people will begin to stop thinking and the republicans will have a better chance of stopping a left of the middle nominee.

Save the safe nominees for later. Use this opportunity now. It won't come again. Please, let's not blow this chance.

[eppur_se_muova]

51. "Fair and balanced" should be our watchword. :^) nt

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