The Human Flu and the banning of pig and pork imports worldwide

[seemslikeadream]

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L4674820.htm

RUSSIA

-- Pork banned from Guatemala, Honduras, Dominican Republic, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Nicaragua, Panama, El Salvador.

-- All meat and meat products banned from Mexico and the U.S. states of California, Texas, and Kansas.

CHINA

-- Live pigs and pork products banned from Mexico and the U.S. states of California, Texas and Kansas.

SERBIA

-- Pigs and pork banned from Mexico and the United States.

THAILAND

-- Live pigs banned from Mexico and the United States.

JORDAN

-- All meat banned from countries with confirmed H1N1 cases.

PHILIPPINES

-- Pigs and pork products banned from Mexico and the United States.

UKRAINE

-- Pork banned from Mexico and the U.S. states of California, Texas and Kansas.

INDONESIA

-- Pork banned. No details given, unclear if only from Mexico and the United States or from around the world.

LEBANON

-- Pigs and pork banned from affected countries. Measure orders destruction of cargo en route from affected countries, the closure of domestic pig farms, the prohibition of pig slaughter and the blood testing for all pigs.

AZERBAIJAN

-- Livestock products banned from North America.

BAHRAIN

-- Pork products banned from Mexico, the United States and any country with reported H1N1 cases.

CROATIA

-- Pork banned from North America, plus any country with confirmed cases.

ECUADOR

-- Pork banned from Mexico and the United States.

KAZAKHSTAN

-- Pork banned from Mexico and the United States.

MACEDONIA

-- Pork banned from North America and countries with confirmed cases.

MONTENEGRO

-- Pork banned from North America and countries with confirmed cases.

SURINAM

-- Animals, raw pork and semen imports banned (no further details given)

SWITZERLAND

-- Pork from Canada, Mexico, New Zealand, and United States

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES

-- Pork banned for both import and sale (no details given)

BELARUS

-- Meat banned from seven countries (not specified)

-- Cattle, poultry and feed banned from Canada, Mexico, the United States, New Zealand, Spain, France, and Israel.

SOUTH KOREA

-- No ban imposed. Increased number of flu virus checks on pork products from Mexico and the United States.

EUROPEAN UNION

-- No ban imposed and no change to import policy, given "flu has nothing to do with food chain".

JAPAN

-- No ban imposed. Checks of live pig imports for infection. No checks on imported pork "as no risk when cooked".

KOSOVO

-- No ban imposed. Increased import monitoring (no details). (For related story, please see: ) (For more Reuters swine flu coverage, please click here: http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/swineflu )

[MercutioATC]

1. And?

The H1N1 virus doesn't live in COOKED meat.

Live pigs and uncooked meat can transmit the virus.

[sinkingfeeling]

2. Maybe this 'globalization' stuff has some draw backs.

[pnutbutr]

3. rare to transmit from pig to human

and you can't get the flu from the meat cooked or uncooked. Most farmers are more worried about humans giving the flu to the pigs than anything else. This pork ban shit is just stupid as shown by the difference between the nations who have and have not banned it.

[RaleighNCDUer]

4. Canada -

H1N1 has apparently jumped back from people to swine.

As reported this AM.

[seemslikeadream]

5. true dat

Alberta pigs likely infected with flu from worker: CFIA official

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=5585362

[FirstLight]

6. IRONY....to me, at least

With the huge rises in population, agriculture & animal husbandry has become this mass production thing...and we can't pretend that this is in any way okay, or clean or not a health hazard -

Anyone who has seen documentaries or news specials on the meat industry knows that it ain't pretty
and the chances for contamination of all kinds are rampant and very hard to regulate...especially when our FDA has been gutted. Geez. Think about the countries where they have rudimentary meat markets and very dense populations and they are all mixed together and living in close quarters...
bad conditions? uh, yeah
ripe for weird crossings of genes back & forth across species?
yep


when a population becomes UNSUSTAINABLE, there are natural checks on said population. Now we humans are pretty good at outwitting most of these issues, but time and the increased strain on the resources is getting ahead of us. Not just with the planet past it's tipping point...we are going to see significant changes in our food supply because of the overpopulation, and animal herds are part of that ... viruses are amazing things, hey have had to evolve ahead of the curve for eons...what makes US think we can continue to get away with our ways?
This could significantly affect the way we handle animals as food... and how we cultivate food for both large & small populations

and yes, personally I am thinking it may be time to see how well we can live with less meat overall in our diet
it could be a health thing anyway, because I can regulate my OWN food supply a whole lot better!

[Jim Pivonka]

7. 2009 H1N1 flu has NEVER BEEN SEEN in swine, hogs, pigs, or pork

That is - this flu has never, not ever, nowhere, nohow, noway been seen in pigs, their synonyms, or in pork products.

This recombinant virus (aka reassortment?) may well have originated in humans. The four omponents of this virus have reportedly been seen seen in pigs. But this virus, this combination of eight genes from four virus strains, has NEVER been seen in pigs.

In fact, pigs may eventually be infected by this virus, from humans.

H1N1 flu virus strains are endemic in the human population. An H1N1 virus was responsible for the 1918 flu. H1N1 disappeared from the human population for decades, "reemerged" (from a laboratory freezer) in 1977, and has been endemic in the human population since. ". . . Current H1N1 death rates are even lower than those for H3N2 lineage strains (prevalent from 1968 until the present)."

We do not know what the death rates for this new, recombinant H1N1 strain are. And we do not know how this strain will mutate over the next months and how that will affect its transmissability, virulence, and death rates.

We so know that mutation rates are typically higher earlier in the "life cycle" of a virus strain, so we can expect changes of some kind.

[RaleighNCDUer]

8. Smithfield employee, huh? nt

[Junkdrawer]

9. "We tested and did not find salmonella in our peanut butter" - Peanut Corp.

Nothing like self regulation.