Cop-killer raped 2 women on day of slayings

[XemaSab]

The man who gunned down four Oakland police officers had robbed and raped two women at gunpoint earlier the same day as they set up a food cart in East Oakland, police said Monday.

Authorities are not sure whether Lovelle Mixon, 26, shot the two motorcycle officers who pulled him over on a March 21 traffic stop because he feared police would link him to the rapes. Mixon fled after the initial shootings to his sister's nearby apartment, where he killed two more officers with a high-powered rifle before being shot to death.

But Officer Jeff Thomason, a spokesman for Oakland police, said, "This goes into the mindset of Mixon that day, when he brutally murdered four police officers. It clearly shows he destroyed many lives."

Police said earlier that Mixon was tied through DNA to the Feb. 5 rape of a 12-year-old girl in the East Oakland neighborhood where Mixon lived and where the officers were shot to death. The department was notified of the genetic match in that case the day before the killings.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/04/BA6917EDG8.DTL&tsp=1

Anyone want to stuck up for this thug now? :shrug:

[Beaverhausen]

1. were people here sticking up for him?

Sounds like meth to me.

[MrSlayer]

2. Yes, and it was disgusting.

It was the usual "All cops are pigs" brigade doing it.

It's a shame they couldn't resurrect the cop-killing rapist asshole and kill him again.

[flvegan]

4. Seriously?

Wow, I missed that. Rather, I didn't "miss" it as much as I didn't see it.

[MrSlayer]

5. Oh yes, praising it as "payback" and cheering for him.

It was a pretty low moment on this site.

[flvegan]

10. That right there, is seriously fucked up.

[cliffordu]

14. Yep.

[pecwae]

22. It was one of the more disgusting

displays of cop bashing I've ever seen here. And some just can't give it up already.

[LooseWilly]

60. I think you're wearing blinders in your hostility toward cop-haters.

There were people praising and defending him, but most of them had (mistakenly as it turns out, quite obviously) jumped to the conclusion that the cop killing was in response to the Cops Killing Oscar Grant on New Years Day on the Fruitvale BART platform in... East Oakland.
Needless to say, when a cop shoots an unarmed man who's already prone and in a submission hold in the back, and then tries to claim that he thought he'd drawn his taser, not his 9mm... well "Lots and Lots of Cops ARE PIGS".

Having lived in the Fruitvale neighborhood for years, I never, personally, believed that anything that happened with this thug had anything, really, to do with the Oscar Grant murder by a police officer.
I did, however, assert that having two motorcycle cops running a traffic trap at 74th and MacArthur was stupid, and was bound to wind up in something ugly. To be honest, I'm surprised it took this long... the motorcycle cops have been running these sorts of traffic traps for years... it's a significant source of income for Oakland.

Hearing about the rapes, I can't say I'm shocked. Saddened, certainly, but a check with sex offenders watch lists will reveal that there are at least a dozen that live within a 1 mile radius of the Fruitvale BART station (I lived only a few blocks away, so I've done the searches)... so that's just an ugly fact of life in Oakland.
The stretch from 73rd to 82nd, between Bancroft and MacArthur... is Way Way Way worse. That whole chunk of East Oakland is like a labyrinth of dealers and thugs.. with some very nice people sprinkled amongst them trying to mind their own business.

Thanks for at least providing a reason for his death. It makes his death feel less like just another stupid waste in Oakland, and it makes his killing spree less unpredictable. The rampages that have a reason behind them are easier to see coming, you see... and when you live in Oakland, you have to be able to spot these things for yourself... "because the cops don't need you, and man they expect the same..."

[LostinVA]

61. Great background on everything -- thank you!

[krispos42]

3. IIRC they were having vigils for him in Oakland

Or something of the sort.

[emilyg]

6. Disgusting.

[Mz Pip]

7. This creep was a menace

to his own community but some regarded him as a hero. And yes there was a vigil for him in Oakland.

[JonLP24]

8. I thought it was the other way around. I saw lots of emotional support for the cops

[krispos42]

11. I think there was nationally

However, remember that only a couple of weeks or so before, the local transit cops (BART) shot and killed a guy then covered it up.

[JonLP24]

13. I was talking about Oakland, not nationwide

Here it is.

On the morning of March 27, 2009, Oakland citizens filled the overpasses and streets near the Oracle Arena in a show of support for the Oakland Police Department and the slain officers. By the time the service started at 11:00 a.m. PDT, the arena was filled to its capacity of 19,000, including the entire 800 strong Oakland police force; an overflow of at least 2,000 persons spilled over into the adjacent Oakland Coliseum. Police officers from around the state and nation, as well as a contingent from Canada, attended the event.<50>

Speakers included Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, Senators Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, and Attorney General Jerry Brown.<51> Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums attended, however he was asked not to speak at the funeral by at least two of the slain officers' families, and he honored this request.<52><53> Congresswoman Barbara Lee, Lt. Gov. John Garamendi, Mayor Gavin Newsom of San Francisco and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa of Los Angeles also attended but did not speak. Oakland Police Department Chaplain, Father Jayson Landeza, read a letter of sympathy and support from Barack and Michelle Obama.

Relatives, friends, and comrades delivered eulogies to the four slain officers, praising their heroism, humanity, and selfless service to the people of Oakland.<54><55>

An affecting tribute came from Oakland police Captain Edward Tracey, commander of the SWAT team that cornered Mixon. "These were my men," he said. "They died doing what they loved: riding on motorcycles, kicking in doors, serving on SWAT."<56>
Captain Tracey thanked the witnesses who called 911 and attempted to aid Sergeant Dunakin and Officer Hege, "To the citizens who called 911 last Saturday to report our officers down and the brave man...I hope you hear me, sir...the brave man who provided CPR to our fallen heroes, we thank you, we thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Your actions let us know that they, that these officers, did not die in vain. That the people, that they were there to serve, were the ones that helped them in the end." The brave man he was thanking was Clarence Ellis, who had used his coat to tamponade the arterial blood spurting from Sergeant Mark Dunakin's neck.<57><1>

Referring to press coverage that attempted to link the murder of the officers to the January 1, 2009, slaying of Oscar Grant, retired Oakland Police Department Lieutenant Lawrence Eade admonished the press, "For those who manipulate the story, may your careers be extremely difficult until you tell the truth... This is not about your ratings, this is about a tragic loss... The citizens are not arming themselves against the police, there is no war between us and you cannot create one!"<58>

After the service concluded at approximately 3:00 p.m. PDT, long cavalcades of police cars escorted the officers' coffins to their final resting places, and the thousands of mourners returned to their homes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Oakland_police_shootings#Police_officers.27_funeral

Source appear to be reputable. Mercury News, SF Gate, Salon, etc.

Also I found this. sentiments.<26> A clear majority of those who regularly campaign against abuses of police power also rejected any attempt to attach legitimacy to Mixon's murder rampage.<38> And Caroline Mixon, Lovelle Mixon's cousin, paid a public tribute to the Oakland police, thanking them for serving and protecting the people of Oakland.

So it appears the people defending this guy appear to be very minimal.

[krispos42]

15. There was this, too

<snip>Outside the apartment that SWAT officers stormed, a memorial for Mixon had flowers, candles and balloons. Notes read, "RIP Vell," " Money$" and "We gone miss u big cuzn." A plainclothes police officer went up to it at one point, stared at it for a second and then walked away, shaking his head.

Crisis outreach workers spoke to people on a corner, and less than an hour later, activists handed out flyers that invited people to a rally where they would "uphold the resistance" of "Brother Lovelle Mixon."

Many people rejected that sentiment, saying they were touched that officers had given their lives protecting others. They said they didn't understand why some were defending Mixon.

<snip>

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/23/BAQD16LJOV.DTL&tsp=1

And this article in San Fransisco Bay View

http://www.sfbayview.com/2009/police-2-oakland-residents-4/

[democracy1st]

16. the guys is a low life piece of crap but If his relatives praise him I'll just ignore them !

[imdjh]

18. That invitation was put out by the POS Uhuru org.

[LostinVA]

25. Why is Uhuru a POS organization?

I just looked at their webpage because of your post, and I don't see anything "POS" about it. Can you elaborate?

[imdjh]

32. racist, violent, and stupid

• Four Oakland police killed by African resisting police occupation .....March for Lovelle Mixon who shot four Oakland cops before being murdered.....


• http://uhurunews.com/video/play?resource_name=omali-yeshitela-re-barak-obama-white-power-in-black-face-video

Omali Yeshitela-- RE: Barak Obama: WHITE POWER IN BLACK FACE

• Stupidity and vandalism

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/20/Southpinellas/Halloween_display_see.shtml



Just keep fishing around their website. You'll find all kinds of racism and stupid. IN addition, this group has promoted violence and vandalism in St Pete both when a criminal tried to run down a cop and was shot, and on an anniversary of that. Throwing bricks at passing cars, calling police an occupation army while black neighborhoods are torn apart by crime.

[Ignis]

40. Presumably because they're not white enough. (nt)

[LostinVA]

53. hahahaha

[bridgit]

44. You think the Oakland city police are an 'occupying' force?

[krispos42]

72. No

The opinions exist; they are not mine.

[bridgit]

73. understood fair enough

[LooseWilly]

63. The thugs in Oakland ALWAYS put up street altars for their fallen.

For every dealer, every runner... everyone who's gunned down outside a liquor store by someone he argued with 15 minutes earlier... there is an altar. In fact, I bet there's an altar up somewhere in that neighborhood right now (I tended to see them most along 81st Ave, especially around Cherry and Walnut... also Bancroft and 83rd, 77th on that island between Bancroft and 73rd, along 90th Ave, sometimes along E St, 98th and Plymouth, etc...)

And the cops block the Bay Bridge with funeral processions of 50 motorcycle cops and get speeches from governors and senators.

Each side in the war has its rituals. Of course, the fact that the overwhelming community reaction was in support of the officers shows that it was only the thug's immediate thug pals that were with him, and suggest that the people in the neighborhood thought he was an asshole too.

[imdjh]

17. The transit cops didn't kill anyone or cover it up

A, one, transit cop shot a criminal in a manner or reason yet to be determined, and it was not covered up at all.

[JonLP24]

20. He shot a criminal? What exactly was he doing that was so criminal?

I haven't read the officer in question was planning to charge him with something. Ah poor guy, can't even defend himself against people calling him a criminal.

[imdjh]

30. Yes, he shot a criminal.

Oscar Lee Grant was an habitual criminal. He was killed by a police officer while detained for criminal activity. I happen to think that the shooting was accidental, that barring insanity on the part of Mehserle it's the only explanation, but that's not the issue here. The issue is idiots who take something like this and say , "See! That's what police do! In this fucked up country!" It's childish, it's stupid, and it's ignorant of both the facts and the context.

[LostinVA]

54. You didn't answer teh question -- what did he do that was criminal?

And, even if he had just murdered someone, that does NOT give an officer the right to kill him in cold blood.

I think violent criminals should be incarcerated and taken off the streets, and that includes the many criminals wearing badges.

[EFerrari]

21. The transit cop shot an unarmed man that was helpless and on the floor

and no threat to anyone.

[imdjh]

23. And you don't know how or why.

You have seen the video and so have I. It doesn't make sense for a cop to deliberately shoot a detainee in front of a hundred witnesses, even if you would like to believe that he wanted to. In any event, it is not a sign of a systemic design for renegade cops to shoot unarmed defendants.

[LostinVA]

27. We do know how and why: it's called police brutality, and it's nothing new

[EFerrari]

35. Why doesn't matter in the least. The man is dead. n/t

[imdjh]

37. OF course it matters- if it's accidental it's different from deliberate. nt

[Ignis]

43. It doesn't make sense for a cop to rape a man with a plunger.

And yet, amazingly, that's just what happened in the case of Abner Louima.

Oh, but I'm sure that was accidental, too. :eyes:

[Name removed]

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[Ignis]

47. My Xbox? Please explain.

If you're going to use an argument ad hominem, at least try to make it vaguely interesting and/or relevant.

I notice you profess no sympathy for poor Mr. Louima, though. That's a surprise.

[Gormy Cuss]

48. You don't know why either, yet you justified it by saying he shot a criminal.

I'm sure you understand that past criminal behavior alone isn't justification for killing someone under our laws.

[Ignis]

50. Not just a criminal, but a "habitual" criminal.

As if that somehow justifies shooting an unarmed man in the back while he's on the floor.

:banghead:

[Gormy Cuss]

56. Well, it does mean that he won't be able to reoffend.

:banghead:

I'm of the opinion the Mehersle meant to hit Grant with the Taser and grabbed the wrong thing off his belt but that's beside the point -- Grant was doing nothing to deserve an instant death no matter how it happened and that's crystal clear from the video.

[Ignis]

65. He didn't even deserve to be tasered.

But I agree with your primary point. :)

The problem is that some people have a disgusting "blame the victim" mentality that prevents them from understanding that persons in positions of authority--yes, yes, even cops--can make mistakes, make poor judgment calls, and even *gasp* commit crimes.

[LooseWilly]

67. I have a theory why he did it. Care to hear it?

He's a new cop. He's white. He's a BART cop, which means he could be assigned anywhere. He could be assigned to work in San Francisco. He could be assigned to work in Fremont. He could be assigned to work in Walnut Creek. Or, he could be assigned to work in Oakland.
For those not familiar with the Bay Area, Oakland has a "darker complected" population over all than, say, Walnut Creek. Let's just say that John McCain would probably be able to find neighborhoods in Walnut Creek where he would be welcomed and could feel comfortable.

My theory is that Whitey (ok, I'll get over my laziness and look up his name. Mehserle, there happy now?)... My theory is that Mehserle joined, and hoped to be working in San Francisco, or Fremont, or Walnut Creek... but being new they assigned his ass to Oakland.
Fruitvale isn't that bad a neighborhood, really. It's a Mexican neighborhood, with a heavily Asian neighborhood to the North, toward downtown, and a heavily black neighborhood to the South, toward San Leandro (a lovely white town that Mehserle also would've, I suspect, loved to have been assigned to).
So he's part of a group of cops on New Years Eve, around midnight... and a BART train operator calls in a fight, and the cops are sent to intercept and deal with the disturbance. They get there, and there's some words being exchanged, but no sign of an actual fight occurring. As a precaution, since I would imagine the two groups in question would've been relatively easy to tell apart, the cops apparently decided to separate them, and restrain both groups.

Oscar Grant was probably engaged in words with someone of the other group of the alleged altercation. One of the cops, possibly Mehserle, maybe another, in the effort to restrain him, probably also talked some shit of his own... because that's the way that cops behave generally. The sorts of individuals that talk shit are generally also the ones drawn to potentially violent jobs, like law enforcement.
So, once the cop starts talking shit to Oscar Grant, Oscar starts talking shit back (Or maybe Oscar started, and the cop responded... Whatever).

At this point, I suspect, we have cops talking shit with all the guys they're restraining, who are in turn talking shit back, and probably talking shit at the other group as well.

I've sat at the cab stand at Fruitvale BART for years. That sort of shit talking is just the neighborhood. I've done it, and had it done unto me.

I think Mehserle was freaked out though. I think black folks and brown folks freak him out, especially in numbers like that talking shit like that. I've seen it happen to guys with an underlying racist tic that they may not've even known that they had... and when that freak out line is crossed, there's no telling what that person might do.
I personally think that he just freaked out and got the idea that, in order to "take control of the situation" he thought he had to take "tough measures", and so he shot Oscar Grant. As a result of some sort of panic reasoning...
I think his line of reasoning ran fairly parallel to the reasoning that led the Bushies to decide that torture was a good idea... "tough measures" to "take control of the situation".

I'm probably wrong on many details... and I might even be wrong in the gist... but that's a scenario that, I think, explains how a cop might deliberately shoot an unarmed civilian in the back while he's restrained. And it makes a hell of a lot more sense than his bullshit defense that he thought it was his taser.

[LostinVA]

26. He shot an unarmed man and lied about it

[Ignis]

42. B-b-but...he CAN'T have lied, he's a cop!

It's just absolutely impossible that a cop would ever lie to protect his job, and if you think that other cops would EVER even remotely consider the possibility of lying to protect a Brother Cop's job, well, you're obviously a Cop Hater!

:eyes:

Or so some posters would have you think.

[LostinVA]

52. I dated a cop for three years, and lost all illusions many were the "good guys"

Some individuals are, of course. The crimes I saw them commit and cover for was shocking.

[Ignis]

33. "shot a criminal in a manner...yet to be determined"

No, he shot him with a gun. In cold blood. In front of a crowd.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your Own Special Reality or anything.

:dunce:

[imdjh]

36. as in accidental or deliberate

I watched the best video over and over- the one from the train. As he is standing up, he appears to lose his balance and then you hear the shot. His reaction is one of surprise. So, in my "special reality" I see an accidental shooting. Don't let such observations ruin your philosophy, though.

[Ignis]

38. So he tripped, pulled his gun out, and shot the kid in the back?

Pull the other one. You're bending over backwards to paint this in the best possible light for the cop, yet you have no qualms about labeling the kid as a criminal.

Your slip is showing.

[imdjh]

39. obviously, you didn't watch the video, so there is no point in discussing it with you

[Ignis]

41. Oh, but I did. Please, keep digging a deeper hole.

Let's be honest, though: You don't want a discussion, you want to paint a rosy Cop Hagiography mural over the fact that this BART cop shot a kid in the back while he was face-down on the ground.

Sorry I'm not going to slobber all over a killer because he happens to have a badge. Not everyone has your ability to turn a blind eye to abuse of authority.

[LooseWilly]

62. They blocked off MacArthur at 74th and had a support rally... for the cops.

The community rallied behind the cops, and spoke out hoping for an end to the violence.

And, for those who don't know, MacArthur is a major Boulevard that runs the entire length of Oakland, and was the main highway of Oakland until the MacArthur Freeway was built in the 50s. Blocking off MacArthur is a very big deal.

[WI_DEM]

24. There are always people on DU who will take a criminals side over a police officer

not that the police haven't had there share of bad apples which makes it bad for everybody. But with some here it doesn't matter what the circumstances are it's always the police fault.

[LostinVA]

28. I have never actually seen anyone on DU do this, unless it was a troll

Posters don't side with actual criminals. They are cynical and skeptical, and are generally right (ie the elderly lady shot as as a drug dealer, etc.)

I didn't see the posts about people on here siding with Mixon, and would be very surprised to see if they were from REAL posters.

[XemaSab]

69. There were posts on here implying that Mixon's rampage was legitimate "payback"

for the man who got shot on BART.

[Ignis]

34. So work on removing the bad apples.

What have you done recently to oppose police corruption and brutality? Or can the police do no wrong in your eyes?

[Mike Daniels]

57. Yep. Some people were making the guy out to be an avenger who shot the cops in retribution

for the BART incident and then the same folks went on to blame the cops for not trying to bring him in peacefully.

[Dorian Gray]

66. One or two

were insistent that they were innocent until proven guilty. I think there is a lot of mis-trust for the legal system.

[Rowdyboy]

9. Glad I didn't see the original thread.....Sometimes DU can be really disappointing

but I still keep coming back. :shrug:

[Gregorian]

12. What on earth was going on in his head.

I think we need to investigate the things that lead to this kind of mentality. Whether drugs or racism or fetal alcoholism, or whatever.

I was just replying to someone on another forum who is a relative to one of the dead in that shooting. And then come over hear and see this insane information. I'll say again that at least one of those cops was one of the kindest people around. It had nothing to do with them. And a lot to do with our society. And even that last statement could be wrong. But it has to be right. Our society is what makes this kind of thing.

Such darkness and rage. I feel for everyone who was a part of it. Both the perpetrator and the victims.


The other forum is unrelated. Antique race car engine machining.

[Cid_B]

19. Maybe...

... he was just a fucking asshole.

[LostinVA]

29. Sociopath

[ozu]

31. Here

They're broken people and you can't fix them. You can read about some of America's great psychopaths here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_serial_killers

[Codeine]

51. Some people just fucking suck.

It's not complicated. Some people are assholes who discover they can take whatever they want by force.

[Gregorian]

71. Everyone is born innocent. If I'm wrong about that then this isn't a world worth living in.

I think people who get shit on can, if given the right circumstances, turn into monsters. But they were'nt always monsters. My point is, we always seem to distance ourselves, and put total blame on them. It makes us feel safe, and good, and normal. But I believe the reality is we are also accomplices to some degree. I'll bet that concept goes over big here. Or anywhere for that matter. It's just that I've seen miracles. People can be Hitlers or angels.

I can't condone any of the malicious behavior, but there are reasons that people turn ugly. They aren't born that way.

[bridgit]

46. It was suggested to me the memorial for the killed cops should not take place...

otherwise "there'd be trouble". But Mixon's gathering had "flowers, candles and balloons" and who can argue with balloons? Neither were there even cursory condolences when I mentioned my fiance being shot and killed at a routine traffic stop; which was for me readable as a justification of killing cops as a form a grass-roots social justice ala OakTown. DU's capacity to wear raspberry berets is known and legion

[EFerrari]

59. I remember saying to you that I didn't think the memorial should be in that venue

because I was afraid someone would get hurt. It's hard to secure such a big venue and the OPD were going through a leadership change. The worry was completely justified.

That has nothing to do with justifying cop killing or any color of beret.

[Odin2005]

49. Fry him.

[Occam Bandage]

55. I am disappointed but not surprised to hear that DUers were sticking up for him. nt

[LooseWilly]

68. At the time they were sticking up for him, he wasn't linked to any rapes.

He was only known to have been a confused recently released con.
And it was within a couple of weeks of the Oscar Grant Murder... so tempers were running hot.
Many jumped to a conclusion that the two were related. Oops, they were wrong. Their rage about what happened to Oscar Grant was no less justified... but Mehserle's behavior, unfortunately, made it tough for many to feel much sympathy for cops who were at least themselves armed, being killed.

Right or wrong, that sort of reaction to actions like Mehserle's are only human. Everyone who would have communities at large give the police more benefit of the doubt, maybe think about starting by making the police behave more consistently above reproach...

On the other hand, hearing now that this thug was linked by DNA evidence to at least one rape... I am, at last, content that he's been gunned down. And hey, now these cops have actually turned out to be the heroes that they almost certainly liked to think of themselves as... huzzah!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

58. Well, I guess the death penalty failed to deter him. -nt

[Danger Mouse]

64. You mean people actually stuck up for this piece of shit?

[bridgit]

70. apparently so