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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:54 AM
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glacier melt flooding parts of Alaska

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?id=9567&lang=eng



Flood waters are threatening homes on the Kenai Peninsula tonight. According to the National Weather Service, a release overnight from the Skilak Glacier-dammed lake sent large volumes of water into the Kenai River. That water has caused ice on the Lower Kenai River to break up and form large ice jams flowing toward Soldotna. Home video by Kenai resident Bill Toppa shows the water flowing into his backyard. He says the high water is normally 100 feet from his patio. Officials say as pressure builds, a large ice jam from Soldotna Creek to just above Swift Water Park is threatening to break and could cause severe flooding. "They need to pull their portable property out of the area -- vehicles, docks -- remove able boardwalks and any kind of property that can be moved should be moved away from the river banks. And for those in low lying areas, they should be paying very close attention to what the river is doing," said Toppa. So far, there are no reports of serious damage to houses or businesses.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 12:29 PM
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1. Tell me I'm imagining things and this ISN'T happening in JANUARY.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 12:37 PM
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2. I would love to say you are imagining things, but alas, this is January
Edited on Sat Jan-27-07 12:37 PM by Uncle Joe
:(
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 12:39 PM
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3. that's what I was thinking. Ice in Alaska in Jan. doesn't break up

the flooding waters would ride over or around. and the malting waters would be ice in January, not melted.
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Unperson Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 12:40 PM
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4. My friend has a business on Homer spit.
She doesn't expect Homer to be there much longer.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 12:42 PM
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5. And this should be the headline news
instead of whatever hallucination is emanating from the WH. Aiding and abetting the enemy, indeed. Who cares what some dipwad general says. WE, the humans are the enemy.

Looks like Ma Earth is a little pissed.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:23 PM
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6. kicking for the night crowd (and hopefully a fifth rec) n/t
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 10:02 PM
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7. How tragic. I stayed along the Soldotna River last summer;
It is a beautiful unspoiled place. We went rafting on the river and saw bears fishing and eagles soaring...
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 10:42 PM
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8. flip
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 10:43 PM
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9. K & R
Thanks for the update.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 10:51 PM
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10. K&R.nt
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 10:58 PM
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11. I live right here in Soldotna. There is a road that goes down to the
Edited on Sat Jan-27-07 11:01 PM by roguevalley
river called Big Eddy. There are houses flooded out right there with ice dams that are going to break up shortly, some of them holding back water more than eight feet deep. You have never lived until you stand on the banks of the great Kenai River and watch boulders of ice float past that are bigger than your house. My mom had a pedicure yesterday and the woman next to her had one of the flooded houses. I cannot emphasize enough, my friends, how serious global warming has become. I find the cavalier way that some of the posters on this board are willing to overlook the actions of people and their behaviors because they like them, people who are making this happen. This is so damned awful. Rivers freeze and unfreeze all the time up here, but this doesn't happen until march or april. THis is happening to my town and my peninsula and fuels my anguish over a lot of other topics here. I wish it were otherwise.

Here's a link to the hometown paper. There is also an avalanche danger up here too:

http://ap.peninsulaclarion.com/pstories/state/ak/20070127/142501349.shtml
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 12:27 AM
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14. You and Tippy stay safe, okay?
Atolls in the Pacific are sinking -- have been sinking for some time actually. A whole culture is going to disappear because of global warming.

I've never been to Alaska, but I grew up in Hawaii and studied Oceania, so that's my perspective. Lately I've been reading about the starving (and drowning) polar bears and seals up your way. It's sick.

We've sickened our Mother.

:cry:

Hekate

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 01:00 AM
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18. we have. our beautiful mother. the bears are denning
on land now. they are trying to adapt. we're pretty good. its about a mile or so from the river. I hate this so much.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 12:43 AM
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15. I agree with you very strongly...
Stay safe :hi:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 12:59 AM
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17. thank you. :)
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 01:48 AM
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19. This is such a travesty
Alaska is going through some incredible changes

and islands overan by water

the experts keep saying its going to be years away from all of this
but heres testimony its happening right now
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 09:36 PM
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24. I'm so sorry. Your perspective is invaluable--
and heartbreaking.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:33 PM
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12. Not good, nope, not good at all
Climate change is gonna hurt a whole lot of human beings.
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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 12:18 AM
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13. omg this is incredible
I can't believe this story. This IS January and this shouldn't be happening during the middle of the winter. And I read another online story about how Anchorage, Alaska had also had received more snow this winter so far than they had received all of last winter. People are worried about their roofs caving in, among other things.

Now here in CO, we have had blizzard after blizzard after little storm after little storm. The normal pattern for us in the past has been to have the snow and with our generous amount of sunshine that we get, it usually melts the snow rather quickly. It is not unusual to have your shorts on within days after a storm. This year however, we have major drifts yet, from the snow before Christmas. This year has been extra snowy though, without the warming that we usually receive.

Yeah, it is not just global warming, but rather climate change. It is very frightening.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 12:44 AM
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16. kick.nt
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 02:07 AM
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20. overnight kick. This is sad.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 06:58 AM
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21. k n r
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 10:43 AM
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22. kick
:kick:


This is sad and aggravating! :grr:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 11:32 AM
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23. But are any of the affected houses 30,000 SQ FT???
:rofl:
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 10:16 PM
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26. not to worry..
the flourescent lights will save em.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 10:13 PM
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25. sweet
:sarcasm:
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