Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

On buying American

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:36 AM
Original message
On buying American
A couple of weeks ago I found out that my thirty five year old Troy Bilt tiller was dead. Well, OK, not dead, but given the length of time it would take to get parts, if I could get them, along with the expense, it simply made more sense to get a new tiller.

First thing I did was go to the local Troy Bilt dealer. For $2,200 I could get another Horse model, but it certainly wasn't the same as my old Horse tiller. The sheet metal was thinner, there was a lot more plastic, some of the amenities were gone, it simply seemed that the quality of this machine was lacking. But had perused other tillers over the preceding months and found that quality seemed to be lacking in all modern domestic tillers, a field dominated by the MTD corporation.

So I had them fill up the tank so that I could take it out for a test run. Tank filled, they yanked, and yanked, and yanked. Not a good sign, but the salesman mentioned that it probably just needed to be primed, a reasonable observation on a new machine, so he took off the air filter, poured in some gas, and then yanked the cord again, and again, and again. Lather, rinse, repeat, this is not a good sign, especially since I had gotten spoiled, my old Horse had fired up on the first pull until the day it died.

Well, the guy yanked again, and then gas started pouring out, the plastic gas tank had split, so that was that. I walked away from the deal and decided to look elsewhere. I did my research and found that first of all, most "American made" tillers were actually a composite of parts made elsewhere, with Honda engines or Chinese frames. Secondly, none of them measured up to the quality of my old Troy Bilt. Everywhere I looked, thin sheet metal, lots of plastic, fewer amenities (hell, most of the MTD lineup didn't even have a neutral gear, to free wheel you had to undo cotter pins and move the wheels in order to free wheel.

But in the reviews one name consistently came up on top, BCS, an Italian made tractor/tiller combination. The nearest dealer who had models on the floor and who was reasonably priced was over four hundred miles away, so going to visit was out of the question. Well, I took a chance, laid my money down (and yes, this was a few hundred more than the Horse by Troy Bilt), and yesterday it came.

This machine reminds me of my old Troy Bilt. Solid steel everywhere. The sheet metal is thick, the gas tank is metal(with a built in intake filter), the handlebars are durable steel, this machine simply oozes durability. I took it for a spin in the garden, and it was a dream. Three forward speeds, two reverse speeds, and I can shift into neutral on the fly, not stop and re-affix the wheels. I will be surprised if this machine doesn't last for the rest of my life, or at least until I'm in my seventies.

So what's the point of this, other than my bragging. It's this, I will get pilloried by some folks around here for buying a foreign made machine over an American one, even though the American made machine is of lesser quality and I can't afford to throw away money. There are some out there who would want me to go ahead and throw away that money simply to keep Americans employed. They believe that I should accept a shoddier product, or one that doesn't meet my needs, for the greater good of our country.

This applies to all sorts of things, but especially machinery, cars, motorcycles, etc. The same sentiment is there, buy American, sacrifice my hard earned money in order support American workers. Yet the thing is, I can't afford to do that. Will I look at American products, certainly, they will get top priority. But if I'm going to drop down anything over a couple of hundred bucks on any sort of machine, I want quality and durability, with the features I need, and if it's not there in an American product, I'll buy a foreign product. This is what I've done with my motor vehicles. When I went out of buy a car, I looked at American makes, first and foremost, and didn't like what I saw and read (this was in '98). At the time, apparently American cars hadn't changed much, their quality was lower than that of the foreign makes, and at the time virtually all American makes were big, big cars, big trucks, big SUV's. So I bought a Honda Civic that's still doing well ten years and a couple of hundred thousand miles later. Same with my small Nissan truck, also a '98. Meanwhile, when I went scooter shopping four years ago, there wasn't a single American made scooter, and I'm certainly not going to buy a Harley when that's not what I want, need or can afford. So I went with a Baja, from India, and it's been a great ride ever since.

The thing is, I think that I'm like most Americans, I would like to buy American, but I can't afford to. Sure, the product may be cheaper than an import, but that difference is more than made up by the fact that the American product is less durable, and will have a shorter lifespan. This has been a trend in most American machinery over the past three decades. However that could be reversing. With the example of the car company crisis in this country, perhaps other American machinery manufacturers will sit up and take notice, and start making what Americans want, and start making products of better durability. It is a positive sign that finally, at the brink of disaster, that the Big Three seem to have gotten the message and are doing just that. Let's hope others will follow.

So that's my new tiller story. Now, here in a bit I'm going to go out and finish replacing the front axle on my five year old, American made John Deere lawn tractor. Hmmm.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:57 AM
Response to Original message
1. Buy a Chevrolet!
You help our nation's economy and you get a great car!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. When I need another car, I'll do like I always do
I'll look at the American makes, first and foremost. If they have what I need, and are of the same or better quality than foreign makes, great. If not, then I will buy whichever car is the best deal for me. I'm not going to toss away good money on a product that is either subpar quality, or doesn't meet my needs simply so that I can say I "bought American." My money is too scarce for that.

That said, I do think that the quality in American vehicles is finally improving, so I'm looking forward to seeing what they're like. Of course that's probably going to be another five years or so, given how my current foreign cars are holding up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 07:43 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC