American Kills Elephant With Bow For A Bet

[Christa]

Teressa Groenewald-Hagerman was so proud, she posted pictures on the internet showing her beaming beside her kill in Zimbabwe.

The 39-year-old huntress said she crept into a herd of 37 elephants, knelt down, and shot the grand creature from just 12 yards.

It staggered 500 yards before it collapsed, then she left it to die overnight.

Ms Groenewald-Hagerman is the first woman known to have killed an elephant with a bow and arrow.

The Kansas-born woman slaughtered the animal to win a bet with a male friend who said she would be unable to pull the heavy bow required.

For eight months she worked out for four hours a day so she could pull a £450 PSE X Force bow.

The lethal weapon has a 'draw weight' of 90lb - more than twice the amount pulled by female olympic archers.

On the hunting website Hunts of a Lifetime Ms Groenewald-Hagerman wrote: "A man by the name of Larry, who is a videographer for Orion Multi Media, bet me I couldn't shoot a buffalo or elephant with a bow.

"He indicated only one or two women had completed the buffalo with a bow and no woman had ever taken an elephant with a bow. Of course, I couldn't turn down the challenge."

The blonde has received praise from other hunters in online posts.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090507/twl-american-kills-elephant-with-bow-for-3fd0ae9.html

?x=310&y=231&q=75&wc=321&hc=240&xc=40&yc=1&sig=pnQNOHkM5RJYFapQzwT5ew--#310,231

Spread the word, name her and shame her.

[malaise]

1. Hope she doesn't mind if one of her gun loving

friends takes her out for a similar challenge.

[hobbit709]

2. "Left it to die overnight" says all you need to know about her.

If you're going to hunt, then kill it quickly. And she should be forced to eat her kill.

[ingac70]

3. I wish the creature...

had time to charge her before it succumbed to its injuries.

[Arugula Latte]

20. Me too. I wish it had trampled her until near death, and left her to suffer for hours and hours.

:grr:

I hate this woman with every fiber of my being.

[exboyfil]

4. I would think most sportshunters would be outraged about

letting the animal suffer overnight and die.

[Arugula Latte]

21. Doubt it. Anyone who thinks hunting is "sporting" and does it for anything other than the

procurement of food obviously doesn't care about animals' suffering.

[uppityperson]

55. as opposed to peace lovers like you who wish immeasurable suffering onto other people

Causing pain suffering is wrong, but causing pain and suffering for retribution is fine. Got it.

[Arugula Latte]

59. She thought nothing prolonging that animal's suffering.

I do wish she's suffer. Yes.

[uppityperson]

61. Retribution is fine. Gotcha

"I wish it had trampled her until near death, and left her to suffer for hours and hours."

[Arugula Latte]

63. Yes I do. That would be justice.

And, as I posted downthread, I hope the publicity from this makes her life a living hell from now on.

[uppityperson]

71. Same excuse is given for Steven Green's rape/murders in Iraq

He was so upset at having his buddies killed, that he felt it was justice to go do that to Iraqis.

Then the local Iraqis were so upset with that crime, that they grabbed, killed, and kicked the heads around of a couple US military people.

Around and around and around. As you posted upthread "I wish it had trampled her until near death, and left her to suffer for hours and hours."

Which is quite different than publicity making her life a living hell.

[Arugula Latte]

74. Different case. He raped people who had done nothing to him.

She set out to harm this majestic, intelligent mammal in the most brutal of ways. In the contest between this beautiful, compassionate animal (and elephants are very compassionate with each other) and the cocky, I-made-a-bet human, I wish the elephant had prevailed. It didn't happen, so I hope she suffers in her life in other ways.

Oh, and lest you think I'm alone in my sentiments, look downthread.

[uppityperson]

75. Not in his mind. He hurt people who hurt his friends. And then they hurt people who were related to

him.

Wishing she has some sort of negative reaction to her from cruely killing an elephant is different than wishing her to be stomped to death and slowly die.

Same thing. There are levels of response, levels of reaction. That is what I am saying.

[roguevalley]

76. Given she had the advantage, allowing the animal equal time is

justice. Some dipshits up here shot a sow and left two orphan cubs to fend for themselves. she was an awesome mother, allowing people to fish around her and her babies and disciplining her cubs when they got into people's stuff. she was awesome and she crawled into the bushes to die of a gut shot from two cowards. Fuckers. Damned unforgiveable fucking bastards, of which she is queen.

[uppityperson]

78. Reading about Eagle & Eagle Village today, what a mess

I believe in justice, not retribution. I believe in a different level of response, of reaction, than wishing her to be stomped and slowly die.

[petronius]

15. That jumped out at me too. What a horrible woman...

[Lyric]

28. It reminds me of this passage from the prologue to "The Prince of Tides"

(the novel, not the stupid movie):

When I was ten I killed a bald eagle for pleasure, for the singularity of the act, despite the divine, exhilarating beauty of its solitary flight over schools of whiting. It was the only thing I had ever killed that I had never seen before. After my father beat me for breaking the law and for killing the last eagle in Colleton County, he made me build a fire, dress the bird, and eat its flesh as tears rolled down my face. Then he turned me in to Sheriff Benson, who locked me in a cell for over an hour. My father took the feathers and made a crude Indian headdress for me to wear to school. He believed in the expiation of sin. I wore the headdress for weeks, until it began to disintegrate feather by feather. Those feathers trailed me in the hallways of the school as though I were a molting, discredited angel.

"Never kill anything that's rare," my father had said.

"I'm lucky I didn't kill an elephant," I replied.

"You'd have had a mighty square meal if you had," he answered.

My father did not permit crimes against the land. Though I have hunted again, all eagles are safe from me.

[Chulanowa]

47. Bingo

Honestly, elephants are getting almost overpopulated in parts of Africa, and posing a danger. So I'm not going to begrudge someone hunting one. But I WILL begrudge leaving the thing to die overnight, and then (no doubt) not doing a goddamned thing with the meat. At the VERY least, that thing could fill the cookpots of a lot of Zimbabweans for a long time.

[madaboutharry]

5. She must be a very horrible person.

I try so hard to believe in the goodness of humankind, and then I read this. :(

[Algorem]

6. hope she's going to suffer

[Highway61]

7. One word

Karma. What goes around...WILL come around. There is a special spot in hell for people like that...one could only hope.

[WVRICK13]

8. What A Piece of Shit

excuse for a human. The more people I hear about the more I like my pets.

[Richard Steele]

9. She's a complete and utter waste of perfectly good carbon. nm

[BlueIris]

10. My cat just went off on this via her blog (the cat's blog, that is).

SICK SICK SICK.

[jdp349]

11. impressive feat but needlessly cruel

what a waste.

[derby378]

12. My thoughts exactly

If you're going to kill an elephant, then make it quick and relatively humane. Once the elephant collapsed, what stopped her from firing a second arrow at point-blank range?

Yes, it was a truly impressive feat in terms of human strength, but it's been overshadowed by her lack of respect for the wildlife with whom we share this planet.

Elephants are among the gentlest mammals to walk the earth, and their capacity for memory and emotional sensitivity has been documented fairly extensively. We as a species don't show elephants the respect they deserve. I remember riding on a young elephant's back at some festival in Texas, and I remember being kind to him and patting him on his thick hide (man, was it thick). Looking back, however, I think that elephant deserved better than to simply carry hairless primates on his back while walking in circles all day.

[Javaman]

18. I'm an atheist but...

I believe if there is an afterlife, we will not be judged by our sins but how we treated the gift that is the earth.

[Marr]

43. I would think the rest of the herd would've kept her from making a clean end to it.

I doubt the herd would've fled because one elephant fell in (I assume) the dark.

[Marr]

42. That about sums up my feelings as well.

Creeping into an elephant herd like that takes a level of bravery almost indistinguishable from stupidity, but there you go.

[uppityperson]

56. yup. eom

[Heidi]

13. She was surrounded by 37 elephants and shot this one from 12 yards away.

What a challenge. How impressive. :sarcasm:

[merh]

36. seriously, what sport is there in shooting any creature in a pack

that is only 12 yards away.

The poor beast traveled 500 yards before it fell from the wound.

what a pathetic human -

[jgraz]

81. And seriously, who the fuck cares how "sporting" it was?

It would have been sporting for her to see how many first-graders she could club to death before the police shot her. That wouldn't make it right.

[merh]

86. I agree

[Blue_Tires]

53. +1

stupid canned hunts on the defenseless and unsuspecting... something like this is nothing to boast about and she's acting like she killed a Robot T-Rex with a slingshot...

[leftofthedial]

14. Another reason for Americans to be proud!

We're number one!

[dionysus]

16. i don't know who the fuck would want to shoot an elephant, but at least the article claims people

the poor thing.. :(
"500 African Villagers were fed with the meat from the Bull. (sic)", Africanbowhunter said."

[Javaman]

17. I'm sure she whispered in the animals ear about how sorry she was

and that she needed the animals meat to eat and provide for her family. :sarcasm:

[Cowpunk]

19. LOVE those euphemisms

"Completed"
"Taken"
"Harvested"
"Accounted for"
"Dealt with"

They've got a million of them.

Hunters love to proclaim the magnificence of that which they kill, but don't seem to like admitting they killed it. Why is that?

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

22. I don't know how anyone who has ever read anything or seen anything about elephants

could kill one. For any reason, but for sport and on a bet is just sickening.

[TexasObserver]

23. What a jerk.

[RebelOne]

24. See the reader comments at this site.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1177990/U-S-woman-poses-magnificent-elephant-downed-bow-arrow-left-die-overnight.html

[Arugula Latte]

60. I hope the notoriety follows this woman for years and makes her life a living hell.

[MilesColtrane]

25. If there is such things as karma and transmigration, she should be very afraid.

[InvisibleTouch]

26. She worked out for 8 months just so she could commit this heinous act...

...to assuage her crippled ego because someone bet her she couldn't do it. What a vile and pathetic excuse for a life-form!

[Occam Bandage]

27. I'm impressed and horrified at the same time. nt

[walldude]

29. The great white hunter shoots an Elephant in the middle

of a herd and people are impressed? Yeah that takes some mad skillz :eyes:

[Blue_Tires]

30. ugh...what was the "bet" that made that assholish stunt worthwhile??

she fails at life, and is a disgrace to all Kansans

[Beaverhausen]

31. Elephants are intelligent, sensitive and gentle creatures

this woman is an asshole of the worst kind.

How on earth can someone be proud to cause the death of one of these creatures is beyond my comprehension.

:cry:

[Canuckistanian]

32. Pic of the brave Ms.Groenewald-Hagerman and her slaughter

This is sickening.

[montanto]

33. Incredibly sad.

[Midlodemocrat]

34. What a disgusting excuse for a human being. I hope she rots in Hell.

[flvegan]

35. Left it to die overnight.

Fucking slag.

Not shocked she'd be praised by her knuckledragging kin.

[11 Bravo]

37. I have hunted all of my life, but trophy hunters make me want to puke.

[Vickers]

40. Agreed.

:thumbsup:

[csziggy]

38. Here is a website with thanks for sponsors and a detailed description

Of her killing the elephant.

https://www.foxyhuntress.com/content/lady-bowhunts-african-elephant

:puke:

Her website apparently was prohuntress.com but it is now just a placeholder.

[Arugula Latte]

69. She will discover the power of the Internet and how her life will be

turned upside down as this story is zapped around the world. People will find her address and her telephone number. Her name is very unique. She didn't think about that as she attacked that poor elephant and posed with her fucking cocky smile and left it to suffer.

Fucking b@#$%. :grr:

[csziggy]

82. The problem is that people like that do not understand others' views

They tend to stay in their little circle of friends and exclude people with different ideas.

She reminds me a little of Palin.

[csziggy]

83. Duplicate message!

[Dreamer Tatum]

39. She should be forced to eat every scrap of that elephant

and make all of her clothes from its hide.

[WeDidIt]

41. The kill was eaten

"Her shot was made at 12 yards and the Bull traveled (sic) 500 yards before going down. 500 African Villagers were fed with the meat from the Bull.:) (sic)", Africanbowhunter said.

[jgraz]

48. Wow... good thing Jeffrey Dahmer never tried that defense.

These animals have intelligence, emotional complexity and social structures comparable to humans. How is this anything but straight-up murder?

[UndertheOcean]

44. Barbaric

[truebrit71]

45. One word for this heartless killer. "Karma"....

..."it's gonna get you"...

[jgraz]

46. This is why we need laws against this kind of criminal tourism

Just like a pedophile who goes to the Dominican Republic to fuck little boys, this sadist should be arrested as soon as she steps off the plane.

[lazyriver]

49. Can't resist a bet huh?

I bet she can't carve her own heart out with a rusty butter knife. Start training.

[Shell Beau]

50. How disgusting. Why would she let that poor animal suffer so?

Elephants are such beautiful creatures. They suffer enough at the hands of humans. She should feel like a big piece of shit.

[jgraz]

84. Because she's a sociopath

Think of Dubya blowing up frogs as a kid...

[Lars39]

51. "Crept into a herd of 37 elephants"

No way they didn't know she was there....they just didn't view her as a threat. Which makes her "kill" all the more disgusting.

[progressoid]

52. She couldn't have just gone to a target range and pulled the bow?

[glitch]

54. Zombie assholes run amuck.

Can't wait until this particular subspecies is extinct. Is that wrong?

[kimmylavin]

57. What an absolute waste.

Elephants are my favorite animals, and it sickens me that she did this.

But think of the other waste... four hours a day for eight months?
Imagine what that determination could have done if she put it towards something positive?
Even from the article, she probably could have tried out for an Olympic archery team!

But all this work just to shoot something, and then be too damn afraid of it to finish the job?
Just left it to die, so that she could take her disgusting picture the next day.

Complete and total waste...

[Vidar]

58. A pity she wasn't trampled.

[Matariki]

62. Impressive.

Glad to know it fed people. A whole village - wonder what they thought about the gender thing.

[Name removed]

64. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[jgraz]

66. "Willing to Relocate"

Change that to "Begging to Relocate".

[konnichi wa]

65. I won't use a word I want to. But here's an odd thing, I found posts 2 years old about this

from some roundabout searching....maybe their calendar is broken????
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13651

[Canuckistanian]

73. She posted her story in Oct. 2007 here:

https://www.foxyhuntress.com/content/lady-bowhunts-african-elephant

And her dates seem to indicate May.

This had to be over two years ago.

[earthboundmisfit]

67. She needs to be made to "creep" back into that herd, UNARMED

From what I understand, the other elephants in the herd, at this point, will know who she is, and what she did to their relative, and yes, they will remember. Let her be forced to "creep" back into that herd, this time unarmed, and stand trial before them. If the herd lets her live, then she should be made to work at an elephant rescue for 2 or 3 times the number of months she "worked out" to commit this atrocity.
:grr: :grr: :grr:

[EFerrari]

68. "Completed"? "Taken"?

:wtf:

[BreweryYardRat]

70. Hateful little thing, isn't she?

She could have just worked out until she could fire the bow and hit up a target range...of course, hitting a human-sized target would have taken more skill than hitting an elephant, even in a relatively vital spot.

And then she didn't even have the decency to put it out of its misery.

[depakid]

72. A truly sick individual

Here's to wishing her the worst life has to offer.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

77. Does that qualify her to run for vice president? Is she going to eat it?

Killing creatures for "sport" is something I'll never get.

[xocet]

79. Bengal Tiger & Swiss Army Knife...

Let's bet her that she cannot kill an adult Bengal tiger with Swiss Army Knife. Surely, this "feat" has never been accomplished before - by either a man or a woman.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

80. I know this is bad karma but I hope she has an unhappy, miserable life

What a sick and heartless thing to do. I hope every moment that this poor elephant suffered because of her selfishness comes back to haunt her in karma for the rest of life.

Zimbabwe eh? Mr. Mugabe obviously has a sadistic American sidekick

[Mike 03]

85. Sick fuck. Die painfully. NT

[miyazaki]

87. Always reminded of an Edward Abbey quote when I see

this type of crap: "Whenever I see a photograph of some sportsman grinning over his kill, I am always impressed by the striking moral and esthetic superiority of the dead animal to the live one."

GO STRAIGHT TO HELL BITCH!!!!!!!!!!

[Paladin]

88. "Sport" Shooting Elephants Is So....19th Century.

It's shit like this that drove me away from shooting activity years ago. Trust me, there are still plenty of alleged human beings who find what this woman did to be admirable (I note that there are a couple of posters coming perilously close to that attitude on this thread). Bad enough to shoot a magnificent creature like this with a large-caliber rifle, but to subject it to death by an arrow---a guaranteed lingering, painful death for deer-sized animals, much less elephants---is just unspeakable. I hope she never has another easy moment in her entire miserable life....

[Baby Snooks]

89. But it's a "manly" thing to do....

And apparently a "womanly" thing to do as well. I am told I am a hateful person at times because I believe people should get what they give - I guess I am hateful. And I guess I hope some thug looking for a thrill shoots her and leaves her to die a slow and agonizing death overnight in an alley somewhere. Her and her friend who dared her.

We have a "philanthropist" in Houston named Dan Duncan. Another energy "czar" like Ken Lay and the rest. Another crook. He gives millions and millions to charity. And shoots animals from helicopters. Mustn't allow an animal a fair chance by hunting them on the ground. I keep hoping he will fall out of the helicopter and then be mauled by the animal he was trying to shoot.

All these macho men and macho women. Adding another animal head to the wall in the den. To prove how macho they are.

[Christa]

90. You guys won't believe this reply

I got from a right winger:

Humans are hunter gatherers. Animals are produced in abundance. It's called the cycle of life. What's the problem?

Do you kill and eat helpless tomatoes?

:grr: :grr: :grr: