"It's not our fault! You didn't stop us from torturing..."

[rfranklin]

That's basically the argument that the Bush junta criminals are using to exonerate themselves. This from the party of "grownups" and "responsibility."

[dem629]

1. Succinct and dead-on. Great point. n/t

[BOSSHOG]

2. And the economy as well

Ask any flag waving patriotic "conservative" and they'll tell you that only NOW does deficit spending pose a threat to their grandchildren. No one wanted to have a tea party last year.

[STOP_BS]

3. THE CIA DOC IS WRITTEN " HARSH INTERROGATION" WORDS

PELOSI KNEW and didn't come out against it 7 years ago.

NOW she goes on public TV and Lie to us?

PELOSI MUST STEP DOWN

PELOSI IS A SHAME FOR US, DEMOCRATS

[csziggy]

10. Go read the lengthy thread on "What was Pelosi supposed to do after she was briefed in 2002?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5617736

And the thread "what did dennis hastert know and when did he know it?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5617817

Then think about it for a while. In 2002, Pelosi was not in charge, no Democrat was. Republicans controlled the Senate, the House of Representatives, and the White House.

And then there is this little detail: "CIA Admits That Info About Torture Briefings For Dems May Not Be Accurate"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5617070

You are new here. Be sure you try to look for all the discussions on a particular discussion before jumping in!

Welcome to DU.

[FarCenter]

4. No, they are just threatening the "Samson option"

"Keep attacking us, and we'll bring down the whole temple."

[BOSSHOG]

5. Conservatives really disappoint me

TORTURE is a conservative value (as are ignorance and hatred), however when one rightly points out that they are ignorant and hate people and think torture is cool, they deny it all. Why would a group of people so easily deny their values??

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[BOSSHOG]

9. Welcome Aboard STOP BS

If the economy was relatively good in January 2009 and GM and Chrysler were thriving and the previous administration hadn't cooked the books by ignoring the cost of our Defense the current President wouldn't have taken the actions he has taken. He didn't have the luxury of inheriting a surplus as bush did.

[rateyes]

12. Quit typing in all caps.

And, stop the BS.

[rfranklin]

13. You aleady are...get used to it, punk...

Are you just visiting?

[BOSSHOG]

14. That was a very efficient job of tombstoning

Hey if you're gonna get tombstoned go for the gusto.

[OHDEM]

6. Exactly.

It's the same crap they always pull. This is my 5 year old's method of dealing with things!

[emulatorloo]

8. Predictable. It is always "everybody else's fault" for the Bush Crowd eom

[The2ndWheel]

11. Pretty much the definition of the need for eternal vigilance

Not temporary. Eternal. Your freedom requires your slavery to keeping it.