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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 11:24 AM
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Revenge of the Tundra


http://counterpunch.com/rhames05082009.html


Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, Your Flotation Devices


It was a beautiful early summer day in May. I joined a few boardmembers from our local land trust as we car-pooled to Brunswick for Maine’s annual land conservation conference. We disappeared into the bowels of the large high school for a day of presentations, workshops, and “networking.”

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The last workshop series offered various topics including, “The Land Conservation Response to Climate Change: Adaptation Strategies.” The small group attending heard Andrew Whitman of the Manomet Center discuss the recent (un-newsworthy) University of Maine climate report. But Mr. Whitman signaled that he might know more than he was letting on, especially with his repeated references to the “five stages of grief.” This so-called “Kubler-Ross” syndrome describing personal adaptation to “terminal illness or catastrophic loss” punctuated the talk as Whitman gently acknowledged that there appeared to be no going back to the familiar climate regime underwriting the development of human society.

Beyond tacit expressions of personal grief, there were no alarms, no stark warning of cataclysms to come. Yet, based on the emphatic, though largely unreported urgings of NASA’s James Hansen and the increasingly unnerving wave of new evidence showing climate events rapidly outpacing earlier predictions, I wondered aloud whether a less moderate presentation might be warranted. After all, trust organizations are chartered, in part, as having an educational mission. And if things were getting as dire as Hansen and others who understood the primary science were lamenting, shouldn’t we be talking openly about that?

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Ward, who toiled for decades inside major national enviro outfits, told me today that he was booked at Tufts University to give a short talk --- the usual Power Point deal --- as part of a panel on climate change. But, he said, “I’ve been giving 20 minute talks for 20 years,” to little effect. Driven by the emerging bad news, he chucked the canned presentation and offered a bracing and candid appraisal.

He spoke the unspeakable, telling the assembled, “I am essentially saying what everybody really kinda knows (or many people kinda know). But we have no way of saying that in public because our leadership, and our organizations, and our structure is based on raising money and being “positive" and optimistic. And we have a whole set of polls going back 20 years that say if we tell people the truth it will bum them out. So we don't tell the truth. So as a result nobody knows what's going on and we're f**ked.”

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University of South Florida academic Martin Schonfeld describes the increasingly unstable ice sheet regime as “poised to lurch.” He notes the cascading sea level-rise (SLR) effects of melting the main planetary ice sheets: “West Antarctica = 19ft SLR, Greenland = 24ft SLR, East Antarctica = 170ft SLR.”

Losing all three ice shields, Schonfeld calculates, takes the oceans up 213 feet: “Think Statue of Liberty up to her neck in water.”

Can we talk?
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Obama seems to be taking baby steps instead of the giant steps that is needed.

if the truth told to the people of the world freaks them out, so be it. they will ajust or not. it has to be done.

it is too late to stop climate change, now all we can do is survive it or not.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 11:55 AM
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1. amen....depressing, isn't it?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 12:02 PM
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2. Woohoo! I own land that's 900 feet above sea level!
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 12:05 PM
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3. well, I guess you can relax then. . . . . .
nt
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 12:08 PM
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4. There are the radical climate change solutions
mostly involving some method of putting large amounts of particulate matter into the upper atmosphere. However, it would be a HUGE risk in attempting one of these "volcano" experiments because it would be precisely that, a "run once" experiment with unknowable outcomes (our climate models are simply not sophisticated enough to predict secondary effects). The cure might be worse than the illness.

But most likely the serious climate change folks are correct... it's too late now to do anything. Even if we never burned another drop of oil or coal, it might well be too late to stop massive changes in ocean level and in weather patterns (what hasn't burned in California WILL burn in the next 2 decades, farming in the central valley may simply come to a halt for lack of water, etc).

Sigh.
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