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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:19 PM
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Elizabeth Edwards will appear on Larry King
Tuesday night for the entire hour.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:20 PM
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1. I really cannot understand how she is putting herself through this.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:21 PM
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2. I can't either and I wont watch it. It isn't entertaining or even interesting. It is just sad
and kind of bizarre.
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:22 PM
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4. Ditto!
I haven't watched any of her recent appearances, and I won't be watching this one either.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:25 PM
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5.  I did watch the Oprah interview.
And you're right. It was sad...difficult to watch.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:55 PM
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38. Or her kids
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 04:00 PM
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40. Perhaps they need the money.. Lots of "rich" people these days are not-so rich anymore
They've got one in college, and her medical expenses are probably not that cheap either..He hasn't had a "real job" since he left the senate in '04..Maybe a one-termer like him has medical insurance through the senate when he leaves, but maybe not.. Self insuring cannot be cheap (available?) for someone with cancer..

He's not still practicing law, and with a microscope on his finances these days, maybe they need the money from another book..(can;t really see that many people interested enough to buy that many of the "new book"..

Maybe John-boy needs to write a book.."Why I Cheated"..
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 04:10 PM
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41. Well, that house is worth a bundle...
But you're right, medical expenses must be quite high. No doubt he is forking out some attorney fees as well.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 04:18 PM
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42. only if someone wants to pay what it cost to build it..
and they want to move..
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:22 PM
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3. Oh boy. More lies and spin.
Edited on Sun May-10-09 12:22 PM by dem629
Other than sympathy for her illness, I can't imagine why anyone would give this woman a dime for her book.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:26 PM
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6. I wish somebody would ask her more about the campaign
Like this "Doomsday Strategy" thing.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/05/edwards-staff-h.html

But I doubt Larry King would be the one. He'll just let her go on fruitlessly trying to rehabilitate her husband's reputation.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:28 PM
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8. Wow. Very interesting. Thx for the link. I wonder how they might have done it, though.
Revealed the affair? Something else?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:38 PM
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12. Yeah, this is quite a development in the story
I hope we hear more about it. Bless and keep these campaign staffers, whoever they are. At least they had some common sense and weren't afraid to go big. I was thinking maybe they told him their intentions and that was enough. But yes, I'd say the affair. The time frame mentioned seems to be just after the National Enquirer published that the pregnant mistress was living in Chapel Hill.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 02:47 PM
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37. That is interesting.
Please let us know if you hear anymore about it.:hi:
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:28 PM
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7. Does anyone know, are they still together? n/t
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:32 PM
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9. I think they're living together.
But that is a quite a large house.

It struck me that she was still very, very angry. And I don't really blame her.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:33 PM
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10. I don't blame her at all.... n/t
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:09 PM
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32. He was living at their beach house. He was seen voting at his local precinct with his son
last November--Elizabeth was not with him.

Maybe she's let him move home.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:11 PM
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34. Yes, I really have no way of knowing.
I would just hope for the kids' sake he was there.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:36 PM
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11. I won't watch
it is jus too painful seeing her do ths to herself
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:42 PM
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16. That's what I don't understand.
This is just blowing the whole thing up again.

No doubt, the "other woman" will now crawl out from under whatever log she's been hiding and even more crap will hit the fan.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:38 PM
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13. My advice to Elizabeth...
Go home. People know about your book. It doesn't need more publicity.

Go home and talk to John if you wish to try and work out this problem in your marriage. You are not the first person this has happened to and you will not be the last.

Learn to forgive if you want to make your marriage work again. It may be even stronger than before. It is up to you and John. It is not up to the public to decide what either of you do with your lives.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:44 PM
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17. She knows what she's doing
She knows there is a good chance she'll be gone in a few years and she wants to make sure when that happens. John Edwards doesn't try to do a phoenix routine.

1) It would be bad for her children to have to relive this in 8 or so years.
2) She learned something about him, that in her mind makes him unfit for office.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:50 PM
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19. Good advice Kentuck
her time on this earth is limited , and I wish she would try to make it peaceful and happy . It is between her and John
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:52 PM
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21. That is my thought also.
I don't see how she can be getting anything constructive or cathartic out of this public spectacle.

It must be deeply painful.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:39 PM
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14. I won't watch
She supported John for president knowing that if the news went public before Election Day, we could have lost the election to McCain.

Their personal life and troubles shouldn't be public knowledge and affect an election. But the reality is that those personal issues do weigh heavily with the public. Now she writes a book and brings it all back under a spotlight? Enough, Elizabeth. Be well, but enough is enough.

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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:24 PM
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36. I agree completely
The more she talks, the worse it is for all concerned. I am especially concerned about the affect this very public spectacle will have on the children. Enough indeed.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:17 PM
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60. Even if it didn't get out before
he got elected and then it got out..well, the n00ze would be all about that foreVAR and the country would suffer again.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:42 PM
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15. This is Elizabeth's revenge on John
I understand why she's doing this.

John's only 56. Relatively young for politics. He could try to lay low and make a political recovery in 8 years or so. Another Senate run or a shot at the Governor's mansion. She might not be around at that time given her condition.

As a lawyer, he's fine and will be able to make a living and support their children, I believe for doing this to the family however, she wants to ensure he has no chance of ever having a public life again. Putting the book out there on what an asshole he was seals the deal on that and will additionally provide finances to protect her children.







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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:46 PM
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18. naw, he was toast the minute the affair hit the news
he is done. the womens vote will never happen for him now. he might as well pack it up when it comes to politics.
as for elizabeth. well, she must get something out of still living with him. thats her choice. I would have hit the road ,arrivederci baby, and never looked back .
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:51 PM
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20. Its easy to say you'd leave
when you aren't slowly dying of cancer and you have a 10 year and an 8 year old.

She's probably going to die before those kids reach college age. I think she's just trying to maintain a home for the younger children while she can.

He could conceivably mount a comeback. Stranger things have happened.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:53 PM
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23. God, I hope not.
I want him to go away.

I was once a supporter; if I feel duped, I can only imagine how EE feels.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:56 PM
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24. I don't hold her exactly innocent either
She allowed the lie to be perpetuated and for him to run for President.

She also allowed him to stain the democratic party by not telling him firmly not to run.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:57 PM
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25. mount a comeback maybe
hopefully not mount anything else.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:00 PM
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28. !!!
:spank:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:00 PM
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45. John's political career was over before the affair
Elizabeth is making sure he is never able to be with Hunter. has nothing to do with his political career or future as that was over even before the affair.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 09:34 AM
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48. Nothing like a woman scorned
Edited on Mon May-11-09 09:34 AM by ecstatic
:shrug: He seems content with playing along though.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:53 PM
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22. 1) She participated in deceiving those who trusted. 2)She's blaming the woman.
I only heard the snippets of the Oprah interview regarding these two topics.

Regarding 1), she said she still believed in him as a candidate and didn't want to deprive the people of having him in the mix of choices. Hmmm. Not much there.


She herself brought up #2: She said (paraphrasing), "When there's something good out there, it means 'somebody' has WORKED at it to make it good, to BUILD it. It's not there for SOMEBODY ELSE to come around and TAKE it! You're supposed to build YOUR OWN good thing!1"

That was really crappy in absolving him of responsibility.


What's really icky is that this is the Kathy Lee, Frank GIFFORD scenario. I believe that once the trust has been breached, it is IRREVOCABLY breached. Going through the paces of "counseling" and rebuilding what WAS and IS NOT just will NOT erase the suspicion in both their minds that the TRUTH in his mind really is: "You are just not HOT enough for my sexual urges any more." Instead, there will follow Kathy Lee never letting him go and GIFFORD going to his grave with a lie.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:58 PM
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26. I totally agree that she is blaming the other woman.
Edited on Sun May-10-09 12:59 PM by cwydro
That bothers me. But I guess she has to rationalize it in some way to herself in order to stay with him.

I'm betting she still doesn't know the whole truth.

edit:typo
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:03 PM
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30. The other women has some responsibility
Edited on Sun May-10-09 01:03 PM by AllentownJake
About 25%. She knew he was married and she pursued a married man. Its disgusting behavior. That woman disgusts me as much as John.

75% of the blame is on John though.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:06 PM
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31. Yes. She is trash.
But John is the one who is guilty of betrayal.

I agree.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:09 PM
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33. I'd put it at 50-50 when both parties know who's married and who's not.
If one of them lied about being committed, that's where I'd go with your 75-25 split.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:12 PM
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35. I'm more pissed off at John
as someone who has been cheated on. That trashy woman didn't know his wife, the woman who was going to be hurt. John did.

The piece of shit women broke rules of being a decent member of society, John broke that and his vows to his wife.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 10:32 AM
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54. But she didn't owe his family anything. John did. That is why he
is more at fault.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:01 PM
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29. I've never been married,
However I was briefly engaged.

When my ex cheated on me, you are right the trust in the relationship is gone.

I tried to find a way to make it work, however, it was impossible. I did not trust her, her motives, or anything she had to say anymore.

I blamed the guy the day I found out, and frankly speaking, I would never sleep with a married or engaged, or any women in any kind of committed relationship. After that, I blamed her. Its sad, she was one of my favorite people I had ever met till she did that.

I wish she would have just left me. At least I could still look back at her in a positive light.

Some relationships can be "saved." Some can't.

Once this is done, however, the relationship will never be what it was before it happened.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 10:03 AM
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50. You know, as sad as it sounds...
Edited on Mon May-11-09 10:04 AM by Blue_Roses
I think you're right: "...the TRUTH in his mind really is: "You are just not HOT enough for my sexual urges any more." I watched his behavior during the 2004 campaign and the body language he had screamed, "It's all about me" and "wow, I'm so hot!" Arrogance flooded the stage with his persona. Very shallow man when "sexual urges" rule your behavior. It's more about his arrogance though, I think.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:58 PM
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27. That will be painful
Too painful to watch.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:56 PM
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39. Knowing what the world knows now, this could not possibly be
his first affair.

If he would risk his entire career on an ordinary blond like that, he must be a big time player.

I have to agree that as much as I like Elizabeth Edwards, she needs to review her options...

1. Give her total devotion to her health and her beautiful children

2. Admit that she knew all along that he is a player and has never been faithful.

3. Take every dime from him and the profits from the book and get on with her life.

My father always told me that "You can not make chicken salad out of Chicken ---- and she needs to face that fact.

She needs to let the door hit John Edwards and the whores he has played with ~

Say Bye Bye John and split.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 06:30 PM
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43. I certainly do not think
that she (or we) know the whole truth.

Of course, it's none of our business anymore...but I feel for her.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:45 PM
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46. I feel sorry for her too ~
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 07:59 PM
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44. Elizabeth is making sure John will never end up with Rielle
she probably knows but can't admit that the child is his so Edwards will be tied to Hunter in some way forever now.

but she can make sure it only goes as far as support for the kid and nothing more.

by doing what she is she is making it so Edwards can never be with Rielle Hunter without people thinking even worse of him.

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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 09:32 AM
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47. The Hunter woman may have thought if she lay low she could pull a Camilla.
Edited on Mon May-11-09 09:32 AM by mnhtnbb
I don't think Elizabeth's motives are all about "resilience"; I think there's definitely a wish for revenge
and a hope to make sure John doesn't end up with Rielle after Elizabeth is gone.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 09:48 AM
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49. Apparently she was on the Today show this morning...
saying he made "one mistake".

Um no, I think he made more than one mistake.

At any rate, I just cannot fathom her telling this story again and again.

But if it helps her, I suppose that's what is important.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 10:19 AM
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51. She would have been better off in therapy
I don't see how this public circus helps anybody.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 10:27 AM
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53. I agree. nt
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 11:22 AM
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57. Next stop, Jerry Springer?
Edited on Mon May-11-09 11:23 AM by marshall
It would be a perfect venue for the inevitable paternity test. Ride this train until the absolute last stop.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 10:26 AM
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52. Here is the write-up on the interview
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30681150/ quite a sad article, actually... For one thing, I was not aware that she was that sick. The whole thing is just too sad for words in so many ways, including that she feels the need, for whatever reason, to do all this public dirty laundry washing.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 11:00 AM
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56. Thanks for the link.
I'll check it out as I get a chance.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:13 PM
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59. That is a woman who looks like she is short on time in this world.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 10:49 AM
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55. It seems like people are so condeming of John Edwards
on this thread. As if you sign your life away when you get married. What if she stopped loving him a long time ago, but he stay married to her because she was sick. What if she really dislikes him, but won't let him go. That is not good for the children either. And marriage should be something that is love between 2 people, not something for the sake of society. He didn't give away his soul when he married her.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 11:41 AM
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58. Well, their married life is their business, I feel
I don't judge anyone for staying married even in infidelity situations or illness situations or children situations. I don't ever care who adults have sex with, either. I don't particularly want to watch the whole world groveling in it, though.

But the public life of politicians and their campaign operations, in this case, the political coverup and scam on the voters, the willingness to put the party and nation at risk, that's my business.
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