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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:10 PM
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Why all the rage against Colin Powell?
Yet more attacks on Colin Powell from the Cheney/Limbaugh wing of the GOP (via CNN: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/10/cheney-powell-no-longer-a-republican/).

"My take on it was Colin had already left the party," Cheney said. "I didn't know he was still a Republican."

The former vice president noted that Powell endorsed then-Sen. Barack Obama in last year's presidential race. "I assume that that's some indication of his loyalty and his interests," Cheney said.


Why do these guys keep pushing on someone they've already dismissed as irrelevant? Here's two possibilities.

1) Powell was Bush's Secretary of State during some very interesting times. Cheney & co. now face potentially very serious legal issues regarding their use of torture, and Powell probably knows where some bodies are buried. Powell's credibility therefore may threaten Cheney & co.

2) As a potential moderate, African-American, Republican candidate, Powell has the potential to lead the GOP to a more moderate direction. The "Cheney wing" of the GOP would be relegated to "schismatic" status. Also not good for Cheney & co.


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:11 PM
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1. It's "Beat Up a Black Guy" day at the GOP, perhaps? nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:05 PM
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16. You mean today ends in a "y" too?
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:12 PM
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2. He violated the "no going off the
reservation rule" of the GOP.
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:12 PM
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3. My take on it
was Dick Cheney had already left DC. I didn't know we were still supposed to listen to him.
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:14 PM
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4. They Apply the IYNWUYAU Theorem To Everyone
Edited on Sun May-10-09 01:17 PM by Mr. Ected
If you're not with us, you're against us.

They apply this standard to Republicans and non-Republicans alike.

And did throughout the Bush presidency.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:14 PM
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5. Maybe Powell has threatened to reveal information damaging to Cheney?
Powell's endorsement of Obama last year is old news. Why attack Powell now unless Dickie's scared about something new coming out?
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:32 PM
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10. Maybe Cheney & co. figure that, if something _does_ come out, they'll really need
the support of the GOP as much as possible. So Powell is doubly-threatening to him. Imagine (in some beautiful fantasy world) if Cheney & co. are indicted, AND the GOP drops him and his cronies like a hot potato at the same time?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:15 PM
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6. Cheney and Powell hate each other
Remember the entire Powell trying to talk * out of invading Iraq and Cheney pushing for invasion thing that was going in 2002.

Powell ended up playing the good soldier and lying at the United Nations.

I wish he would have just resigned over the entire incident so he could be held in higher esteem.
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silver10 Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:33 PM
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20. Toeing the company didn't get him far in the end. . .
And the rabid repukes are always on attack looking for distractions - and they were probably embarrassed that such a high-ranking republican supported the opposition.
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Old Hank Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:16 PM
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7. Powell is better than Limbaugh..but then, the easiest thing is to be better than Limbaugh
And we should not forget that Powell lied to us about WMD, just because he endorsed our guy.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:26 PM
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8. IMO, Powell was blackmailed to go before the UN with that WMD vial
and he may be close to breaking out and exposing them all.
So, if he is destroyed by the media first, the public opinions and possible subsequent actions that may or may not be taken against him by the GOP making him their fall guy, could make or break this latest attempt at framing the issues while they seek to cover their collective lying, war-mongering asses for their treasonous acts of war, torture and genocide.


....just MHO :popcorn:
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ThirdWorldJohn Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:50 PM
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13. Yea Right. Pigs will be able to get their pilot's lisence first.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:27 PM
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9. What rage?
Powell can wear Cheney's anger on his chest with the rest of his medals.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:40 PM
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11. i get why the pukes hate him. no honor among thieves.
what i dont get is all of the 'hes a great american' bs.

he could have been a great american but instead he decided to become a liar and a co-conspirator.
there is no possible way powell didnt know he was lying to the un. none.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 01:44 PM
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12. someone ought to do that speech stress test on him
...the one that calibrates stress in various aspects of a person's words.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 02:08 PM
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14. or that micro-expression analysis like they do on that "Lie To Me" show
They even use pictures of Dick Cheney on that show to illustrate some of their points.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:59 PM
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23. I love it when they use Rice or Cheney on Lie To Me
...to illustrate the manifestations of evil and deceit.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:00 PM
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15. Powell sold out his honor& integrity for loyalty to Bush instead of truth. nt
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silver10 Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:29 PM
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19. Absolutely!!!!
Edited on Sun May-10-09 03:35 PM by silver10
He went in front of the U.N. to justify a horrible thing called WAR and lied his ass off and went against his beliefs (of course, I don't know for sure just surmising about his internal beliefs) - why? A chance for Vice Presidency? Obama NEVER supported this illegal war.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:06 PM
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17. Did he say something recently? If not, here are my guesses for why
1) He's Black
2) He's a moderate Republican
3) Maybe his resignation and the torture memos and their timing have a connection.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:12 PM
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18. In the real world, you can use the
same reason limpballs used for the only reason Powell voted for Obama -



Race! These are all white guys ganging up on Powell.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:33 PM
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21. I don't think that's the whole story, though. There are plenty of people
they could be ganging up on. Why so much attention to Powell? I don't think anyone expects an African-American migration to the GOP, so why is Powell a target?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:42 PM
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22. Powell is just another repuke piece of SHIT...he LIED before the world when he stood up before
the UN and told us that speech!

he really never had any "honor" - just good "PR" that has finally worn off and the TRUTH about this PIECE OF SHIT is there in all his naked hideousness for all the world to see...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 04:17 PM
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24. Colin reneged on his deal-with-the-devil
Edited on Sun May-10-09 04:17 PM by SoCalDem
He's an odd-duck.. Of course, a man like Colin Powell would have a higher profile as a republican, so his choice of that party is no surprise, but when he made his deal with them, he thought it was because of WHO he was..not what he was.. he was mistaken, and has finally decided to walk it back a little.

Republicans hate him because he was THEIR "black guy", and they think they treated him fine, and he;s "betrayed" them.. dems never understood HOW he could align with "them", and never trusted him. many may have felt a little sorry for him, and had hopes that at least maybe he could moderate them, but after his UN performance-art appearance, most dems were through with him..

He's alone now./.with neither side "on" his side..
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 05:02 PM
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25. He wasn't sufficiently complicit. There are degrees of guilt.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:50 PM
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26. Cheney & co. are making an example of Powell and anyone else who
supports Obama in any way, shape or form. They want to do away with bi-partisanship.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:52 PM
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27. Moderates are jumping ship, and the hardliners are acting like it's a purge. n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:26 PM
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28. Uh, because he's ALWAYS been a TOOL for Power/White MASTERS?!1
Let's go back to MY LAI and how he covered THAT up.

Then, let's go back to Poppy and how he was a TOOL back then.


Now, let's go back tohow he was a tool for Shrub and LIED about (ALL)



THEN let us see how he abandoned his RETHUG partisanship to endorse a Black Man for thefirst time EVAH!1



He's a TOOL, has ALWAYS been a TOOL, will always been a TOOL!1 Him and Joementum and whassisame SPECTER can just GO OFF together and suck one another off and all the Rethugs into the bargain FOREVER!1
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:30 PM
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29. He has a long, LONG history... n/t
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