Oops Miss Prejean is about to be sent packing

[malaise]

Bubye!!!

Live news conference on GEM$NBC.

[KathieG]

1. Yep...this is good.

[malaise]

3. The Directors are pissed

Damn! This is hilarious.

[Political Tiger]

6. They aren't holding back! n/t

[KathieG]

7. Yes, it was just getting good, then MSNBC ended their coverage. Booooooo!

[Political Tiger]

10. I know! High drama! I want more! lol

[Political Tiger]

2. This is a very interesting press conference! n/t

[malaise]

9. I can't believe it

They are unbelievably serious. The only part I liked was where the took the Family lady to task but I can't understand why beauty pageant directors take what they do so seriously. That's the hilarious part.

[bbernardini]

4. Please feed the cuberats!

Or, rather, those who don't have access to cable or satellite TV, in or out of a cube.

[KathieG]

14. First they went after her for breaking her contract, then...

they went after the National Organization for Marriage people for recruiting her and ruining her career.

[cwydro]

52. Excellent!

Especially the second part!

[nini]

5. did she get nailed or not?

....

[malaise]

11. Hammered

:D

[hlthe2b]

8. As they say in the South, if you can't say something nice.....

"chirp, chirp, chirp....." ;)

[KamaAina]

19. "Well, bless her li'l ole heart!"

:evilgrin:

[givemebackmycountry]

12. Who is THIS guy?

He's Ripping into Maggie Gallagher, and the other right wing hand jobs that could not wait to get Prejean spouting their shit.
He said they knew they were helping her to violate her contract but they didn't care.

It's been awhile since I've seen someone let loose on live TV like that.

[malaise]

13. No doubt that's why GEM$NBC cut the Press

Conference. The lady wasn't playing nice either. :rofl:

[CTyankee]

16. Was this about her boob job?

nt

[KathieG]

18. No, it was about her not disclosing her semi-nude pics when she applied, and for getting involved...

with the anti-gay marriage organization. She broke her contract twice.

[cherish44]

27. When she turns in her crown will she have to give back the boobs too?

I think she should dammit!

[Bluebear]

36. rrrrrip lol

[malaise]

37. Maybe James Dobson will repay them for

that job.

[Ian David]

15. The Donald gets the last word. Bye-bye Virgrin Alarm? n/t

[Enrique]

17. someone just asked about the "danger" of having 2 Miss Californias

awkward? Confusing? Amusing? Yes.

but "Dangerous" :rofl:

[malaise]

20. That's why it's so damned hilarious

This stupidity isn't dangerous or serious.

[jimmybama]

23. Buh Byy 2 Miss Kaliphoneyboobies

Now she can hit the wack job talk shoe circuit. I bet she does
The View, She can fit right in Lizzy Hasslebooby!! Maybe Sean
Hannity will let her waterboard him!!  I can just see that.
Count to 60 and then let him up. She says, what comes after
50. She is one priceless dipship. This reminds me of our
President's famous words. You can't just make this shit up!!
Too funny

[malaise]

24. You're late

:rofl:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5633975

[Bluebear]

25. The state is less safe then it was this morning.

:rofl:

[Mudoria]

21. Sorry she lost her title

[xultar]

22. Why? She's a hateful repug that used her position that represents all of CA to represent

nutbags.

I say BYE BYE BEEEOIOTCH.

[Midlodemocrat]

26. +1

[ronnykmarshall]

53. She's gonna milk this shit for all it's worth.

The poster child of the Wingnuts!

[L0oniX]

67. Uhm ...the milk has gone bad. Quote Rick James

[MiniMe]

68. Is that a fake boob joke?

:rofl:

[Hepburn]

74. +1....

...I do not want her rep'ing my state.

Fucking dumb homophobic bigot...and those are her good points. Well, yeah, excepting the two on her chest.

[Bluebear]

28. I know, it's tragic. Crying here.

:rofl:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

30. Maybe god will provide her a new country to be beauty queen of.

[Bluebear]

31. An opposite country, even.

[cwydro]

54. Lol!

[malaise]

34. You're cracking me up here

:rofl:

[dem629]

29. I don't think it matters much to her. Especially since the question was designed to get only one

response.

Why ask it in the first place?

[Bluebear]

33. Yeah, she was baited by teh gay, poor thing.

Oops, forgot you have me on ignore :rofl:

[dem629]

38. Actually, I took you off.

I figured I would rather try to have rational discussions with people and let the other members decide who was acting like an adult and who was merely trolling.

We've discussed this before, but you refused to address it directly, but I'll ask again:

If someone is interested in one opinion only (on any subject), why ask someone what their opinion is and then get upset and tell them how (in terms of tone AND content) they SHOULD have answered?

What's the point of that?

(I don't think Perez baited her. That's your word, not mine. Judging from what I've seen of him, he's not that clever. I think it's more likely that he's not very bright, so he fails to see the absurdity of asking someone to give their opinion when it's clear that he wasn't interested in an opinion, but rather a recitation of a particular position.)

[Bluebear]

40. Thank you.

We can have a fresh start.

Personally I don't think either Perez or Prejean are rocket scientists. I am just marvelling at how Prejean now said she seized the moment to witness for Jesus, because she knew Satan was tempting her. When you watch the tape you can see that she is just babbling semi-coherently ("opposite marriage") and if thinking on your feet was the reason for having this "question for the crown", she failed! :)

[dem629]

41. I agree; her answer was not polished and was incoherent.

But again, I'm wondering: If someone is interested in only one answer to a question -- a question of opinion, to boot -- why ask it at all?

Perez didn't simply reply by saying that he disagreed with her. His video response that night was a "Here's how she SHOULD have answered" response, and it was the way he wanted it answered, not in terms of coherence or polished language or anything like that, but rather a particular position on an issue.

[Bluebear]

42. I never saw his video answer...

Truthfully you should judge the potential "queen" on backing up her position, no matter what it is. From that standpoint, she would not have won no matter what her answer, so his response was out of line. A judge of any subjective competition do best to keep their mouths shut post-competition anyhow.

[dem629]

44. I would have voted the same way, based on how she presented her answer. (edited)

It wasn't presented well, and as you said, that's enough to prevent her from winning. So we agree on that.

EDIT: And we also agree that she's a wacko with all the Satan talk.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

45. "What's the point of that?"

To determine whether or not she was qualified for the award.

Turns out she wasn't.

[dem629]

46. Qualified based on her ability to answer coherently, or qualified based on her opinion?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

47. Disqualified that she's an embarassment to intelligent, decent human beings.

[dem629]

50. Because of the incoherent answer, or because of her opinion on the issue?

[Bluenorthwest]

56. She's being sacked for breach of contract and false statements

NOT for her answer to that question. Sorry.

[dem629]

58. I don't think anyone in this thread alleged that she was.

The discussion here is about the question itself, and why it was asked if there was (in some people's minds) only one correct opinion.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

66. Both.

Duh.

[dem629]

71. LOL. Weasel answer.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

72. Are you judging me based on my opinion?

Wouldn't that make you a hypocrite as well?

[dem629]

73. Trolling again, I see.

You'll have to find someone else who's willing to give you attention today. Sorry.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

75. Me? Trolling?

I'm not the one defending the crazy RW homophobe.

[dem629]

78. No one here is defending her position on the issue she was asked about.

But you know that.

So, yes, you're trolling, contributing nothing of substance to the discussion.

You can take your last jab here. Have a nice evening. :hi:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

79. What, exactly, are you contributing to the discussion?

The suggestion that answers to questions shouldn't be used to judge contestants in the question and answer portion of a competition?

[Mike Daniels]

48. Her incoherence on her answer probably was enough to take her out of the running

and if Perez had left it alone Carrie would be a footnote in pagaent history.

Instead, he's responsible for basically creating her celebrity because he had to pull outrage over the specific answer she gave which isn't what the contestants are supposed to be judged on to begin with.

[dem629]

51. Agree 100%.

[ronnykmarshall]

64. He's a much of a media whore as she is.

The question was picked at random. Had she not picked it she wouldn't have the fame she wants. Same with Piglet Hilton

[SemiCharmedQuark]

35. Well, it would be nice if they could make sure they weren't selecting a bigot

since, in theory, these people are supposed to represent the country and what not.

[dem629]

39. Miss NC won the pageant. What is her position on gay marriage?

If it's important know that (as you are stating here) then we should know, right?

So...what is it?

[NeedleCast]

57. I agree that it was a loaded question

However, I'm having trouble generating much sympathy for socially conservative fundies. I have some trouble generating sympathy for beauty queens in general. She has, apparently, violated her contract. Often what happens when you go around shoveling shit on people. I know very few social conservatives who practice what they preach.

[dem629]

59. I don't disagree with any of that.

[DainBramaged]

32. I'm sorry she lost her mind and hates gay people.

[Boomerang Diddle]

43. Anyone else get the feeling she was never in the running for

Miss Congeniality? lol

[ronnykmarshall]

65. Take it with a grain of salt ..

I've read stories on the internets from people that say they work for the Miss California pageant and they say she's a total diva and treats everyone like shit.

[gmoney]

49. She's a brat, but I don't support this kind of repression...

I hate the hang-ups Americans have over nudity and sexuality, and to have a photograph this bland and innocuous be the basis for any sort of disqualification is just ridiculous. There are hundreds of beaches right here in the US where it's perfectly acceptable to wear that little or less.

Who made her body? Your answer is either God or Nature, and either way, why would you suppress something that God created or is the most natural state of being?

Of course, her boobs may be a medical miracle, but that's irrelevant.

[Robb]

55. True. But she signed a contract saying she didn't.

It ain't repression, it's contract law. :shrug:

[Critters2]

61. Exactly. It's a simple matter of being honest.

I think beauty pageants in general are ridiculous. But if you're gonna be in one, and you sign their contract, you gotta play by their rules.

[FreeState]

60. No only that - she is not fulfilling her contract - shes not showing up for her obligations

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/05/miss-california-1.html

The local pageant does not have the authority to fire Prejean as Miss California. Only Donald Trump and the Miss Universe organization can do that. Pageant officials said they would be willing to work with Carrie Prejean, but every time they reach out to her, they are confronted by an army of her handlers and haven’t been able to talk with her.

“Up to now, it’s been very difficult to get in touch with her," said Shanna Moakler, executive director of the California pageant.

----

By contract she must be available to talk with pageant officials.

[ronnykmarshall]

63. Donald Trump has the last word on this.

The Miss California peeps are recommending to him that she lose her title.

Miss Ol' Carrie is on her way to NY to suck off ..... I mean meet with Trump before the press conference tomorrow.

[Bluenorthwest]

62. She freely entered into a contract.

And frankly, she stands for the suppression of others as God made them, so that is one hell of an argument to pick.
She's a promoter of hard core Christian morals, not a free love advocate. She'd be opposed to a topless beach. She's opposed to other people being free to live as they are.
So ha ha on her. Ms. Holy Drawers is a big liar who can not keep her word in a simple business agreement.

[gmoney]

69. Very true...

I belong in Scandanavia or something...

[spoony]

70. I am awestruck this is considered news

to the extent that they'd air a live news conference. So absurd.

[OHDEM]

76. Nobody even watches the pagent but it gets news .....

coverage. Who cares about teenagers with big hair and fake boobs? Okay...some of you guys maybe, but not me.

[ErinBerin84]

77. I'm sure that

Donald will let her stay. I really don't care any way, but I can see the pageant people being pissed about her doing things that broke the contract. Donald however will just use it for more publicity and try to get her a reality show or something.