Andrew Sullivan: Who Monitored The Torture?

[deminks]

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/05/who-monitored-the-torture.html

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If your goal is finding out stuff you do not know, you ask questions. Leading questions, off-beat questions, irrelevant questions .. then very relevant ones. You have experts. You try all sorts of psychological strategies. You do what professional interrogators have always done, what the Brits did in Camp 020 in World War II, what Americans always did with captured spies.

But if you think you already know something - such as, oh, I don't know, say that al Qaeda was working with Saddam to detonate WMDs in America - you have to force the captive to say exactly that. How do you force them? You torture them. And if you are convinced you know exactly what the victim is refusing to say and believe this information is vital and timely, you keep a very close eye on it all. In fact, you will want constant reports and updates and cables on the situation:

CIA interrogators provided top agency officials in Langley with daily "torture" updates of Abu Zubaydah, the alleged "high-level" terrorist detainee, who was held at a secret "black site" prison and waterboarded 83 times in August 2002, according to newly released court documents obtained by this reporter. The extensive back-and-forth between CIA field operatives and agency officials in Langley likely included updates provided to senior Bush administration officials.

And you might even want to watch a video or two before the CIA destroys the evidence. Did they? Who in the white House followed the torture of Zubaydah daily? And were they ever allowed to watch the waterboarding and beating?

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Questions I have been asking as well. Someone had a jones for torture, and someone wanted the detainees to say "Bagdad". It wasn't so much they wanted to take information out of the detainee, as they wanted to put information in. If they talked about Saddam, then Cheney had his link. Look up Cheney's team B. He's done it before.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5628784&mesg_id=5628784

[JDPriestly]

1. Andrew Sullivan's questions are insightful. This is a must read.

[EFerrari]

2. DU was talking about the monitoring in Dec 2007

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2491057

[Demoiselle]

3. And weren't the Red Chinese torture methods that we copied for this...

...used precisely for that purpose...to get captured US servicemen to say exactly what they wanted them to say?
It's the very opposite of real intelligence work.
Good for Andrew Sullivan.