Microsoft confirms Windows 7 coming this year (CNN)

[eppur_se_muova]

updated 11:44 a.m. EDT, Tue May 12, 2009

By Ina Fried


(CNET) -- Microsoft confirmed on Monday that it is planning to release Windows 7 this year, in time for the holiday shopping season.

"We are tracking well to a Windows 7 holiday," Microsoft Senior Vice President Bill Veghte said in an interview.

Veghte made a similar statement in a speech Monday at Microsoft's TechEd event in Los Angeles, California. As recently as January, Veghte was saying publicly that such a release was not a sure thing.

At the event, Microsoft also announced it plans to wrap up work on an update to its server operating system -- Windows Server 2008 R2 -- at the same time it finishes Windows 7 on the desktop side.

Microsoft issued a release candidate for the server operating system last month, alongside the near-final version of Windows 7.
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I may make it to Windows 7 without EVER using Vista! :D Being unemployed for a year may almost be worth it to avoid upgrade hassles at the office.

:hug: my iMac. :hug: my PowerBook. :hug: my FREE Xubuntu CD.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Not until they go to ... SP 1 at least

I expect a late beta with this too

[Deja Q]

3. With microsoft, even the final products - sold off the shelf, shrinkwrapped - are still beta quality

[eppur_se_muova]

8. Hain't you heerd? "Perpetual beta" is the new paradigm.

Or so I've read. :eyes:

[Deja Q]

9. Trained to accept shite, poorly tested products. Trained to want the fastest hardware...

I'll stick with Apple. Others can make their claims and I can denounce 80% of those at this point.

[high density]

11. Have you even tried Windows 7?

I would say no, and instead you're just talking shit about something you know nothing about.

[Deja Q]

23. I downloaded an early beta. Looks like KDE on crack.

I liked the built-in wallpaper changer feature like how OS X has, and the betta splendons pic is cute.

How much proof do you want me to provide?

So take your presumed shit of a question and put it where I'm putting my expired technet subscription...

[high density]

44. By all means, judge the product on an early beta

Early betas are great things to base one's opinion on, especially when a release candidate is out.

[Stargazer09]

36. I love my Macs!

I have a Sony laptop to run my windows-only stuff, but it doesn't get used very often. ALL of my day-to-day stuff is done on a Mac.

When I use the PC, it's painful. I really hate Vista.

[high density]

4. late beta? The RC is already out.

It's great.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. We were told the same thing about that other egg, Vista

great, MY ASS

<--------- happy user of OS X and XP

[high density]

16. There's no telling about it, it's out there and you can try it. NM

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Sorry, after the vista experience MS lost me...

of course it this is another egg, they will also loose their main market, aka business.

[Deja Q]

25. Every new Windows release is reported by gullible media as being "the make or break" release.

Even Windows 2000 was "the make it or break it version that Microsoft is hinging on."

That cant got old too.

After Vista (and Expression Media suite), MS lost me too. A cursory download of Winshit 7 beta didn't restore my confidence either. The confidence game is over.

Microsoft did it to itself.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Well this may be the make or break release though

chiefly because they lost you and me, but also many bidnesses who have been looking at MAC, or more rarely Linux

Oh and in some cases, gov'ments have looked at Open Office.

Which is now a real threat... office don't run until OO is not compatible...

NEED to download the filters from cisco... never mind there was an agreement.

I LOVE my OS X toy... it simply RUNS...

[Deja Q]

39. If Adobe supported Linux with CS4, I'll admit I probably wouldn't have gone Mac...

Which was for the best; OS X is far more solid, polished, and even supports my 5 year old scanner Linux still can't support (Epson Perfection 4180). More companies are inclined to support the Mac anyway. That much just seems visibly obvious...

I've no complaints. Macs are extremely well designed; right down to their casings. Solid, require little power, Consumer Reports giving Apple very high marks... you do get what you pay for. (Even the 17" Macbook pro; has a 133DPI screen when the Acer PC toy's screen is, what was it, 120 DPI? The result is a crisper image. Their new battery technology for that model is impressive as well, even if some would gripe the battery cannot be removed. At a 1000+ recharge lifespan and intelligent recharging, the thing is going to LAST. People are so brainwashed by having to replace and replace and replace all the friggin' time... Apple has done far more than I had thought about catching up and passing the competition in the "green" area.)

But you're right. This time it might genuinely be make-or-break.

Let's hope for "break". My sympathy ran out on them some time ago.

[Deja Q]

2. Wow. First electronic dysfunction, and now premature release.

I too love my iMac and Macbook Pro... a company that hones the OS to the hardware and doesn't fill it with preservatives, MSG, high fructose corn syrup, and dog shit.

[Elwood P Dowd]

14. LOL! Windows is filled with preservatives, MSG, high fructose corn syrup, & dog shit.

That's a good one Deja Q.

[lapfog_1]

21. Oh, count on it, there are many other ingredients as well

chicken lips, cow brains (from downer cows), intestinal casings...

Mostly brain dead drivel from hordes of "pencils up, code" programmers.

[Elwood P Dowd]

26. Plus all those pestisides to kill bugs.

DDT, Malathion, etc..

[Fuzz]

5. Hmmm, wanna bet?

;)

[BelgianMadCow]

6. Yeah and I'm gonna pay for being able to make it XP-like

oh wait, my XP with OpenOffice works just fine.

I will pass on this chalice and wish them a Vista.

[CatholicEdHead]

46. Actually, that is one of their selling poitns for selling Windows 7

is the XP Emulator via Virtual PC to run XP Pro in the Business/Enterprise/Ultimate versions of 7. Have an home edition? Out of luck unless you upgrade.

Of course you better grab an extra 1-2GB of RAM to run 7 and the Emulator at the same time.

[Sebastian Doyle]

7. Probably will hit the retail stores in November

Which means the final will be released to manufacturers - and inevitably leak to the internet - sometime between Labor Day and Halloween.

I can't remember any Windows final product that wasn't "available" at least two months before the retail drop.

[Deja Q]

10. Halloween is too right.

A real trick for their treat.

[eppur_se_muova]

12. Halloween ?? Marketing opportunity waiting to happen. ;^) nt

;)

[LostInAnomie]

15. I fucking knew it!!!

They would wait until after I HAD to buy a new computer.

[high density]

18. It's likely that sometime this summer they will start offering free Windows 7 upgrade coupons

Buy a Vista-powered PC now and get Windows 7 when it comes out. They did the same thing with the XP to Vista transition.

[lapfog_1]

22. Intel and M$ are in a death spiral

M$ produces more useless bloatware to soak up the cycles produced by more cores and faster processors from I$.

All in an effort to extract about $1000 a year or so from millions, if not billions of people.

[Deja Q]

27. Intel CPUs are damn good. I just don't need to be trained that I need the fastest CPU or most RAM,

just for the new OS to keep up with things.

Microsoft has business sense.

But do they know computers and how to make them run efficiently? Hell, no! Their M.O. is to add in new features (most of which are borrowed) and then shift as much responsibility onto everyone else.

That's one reason why you will never see a "Microsoft PC". They might actually have to be held accountable for something for once. And that scares them shitless, prune juice and all.

[high density]

45. I run Windows 7 on a laptop with a Core2Duo at 1.2ghz

Hardly the "fastest CPU" by any means, and it works fine. Even the lame integrated Intel X3100 graphics can draw Aero flawlessly.

But don't let the facts sway your anti-Microsoft bias.

[UP_4012]

17. Awesome!

I was expecting it in 2010! As far as I know, its just Vista with speed and older application compatibility improvements, along with a UI facelift, but looking forward anyway.

[Mudoria]

20. Looking forward to the release... stayed with XP over Vista

so 7 looks like a great option to upgrade.

[walldude]

24. This has been in free Beta testing for months... CNN is right on the ball as usual

Anyone who didn't see this coming doesn't learn from history. MS is famous for releasing crappy buggy unfixable operating systems every other upgrade. Win95? Crap. Win98? Worked. WinME? Crap. WinXP. Worked. WinVista Crap.

Never buy an odd numbered MS operating. It's like watching an odd numbered Star Trek movie. They all suck.

[Deja Q]

28. Every other release? More like "every release", it's "every other service pack" when something gets

done.

And even then.

[walldude]

30. Yeah I wouldn't install a Windows OS till SP2 but on the other hand you and

your precious Mac couldn't play a decent fucking game if you wanted to. I am a gamer and Mac is not built for gamers. Plus Mac users are so self righteous and so hostile I don't like to call myself one, even though I am typing this on a Mac laptop.

Mac is great for people who don't like to tinker. Mac is great for people who don't want to know what is going on inside their system. But Mac is not for people who like to crack their case and make upgrades. I am a tinkerer, I like to build my own systems and tweak them to see how much performance I get out of them. And if you use XP with SP2 or later you can build and tweak a system to kick ass over any Mac on the market.

I have nothing against Mac or PC they are two different animals for 2 different people.

I'll tell you what, the last conversation I had like this, the Mac user berated me because I said I build my own systems. His big point was I didn't build the motherboard by hand so I didn't really build the system. That is the attitude of a hard core Mac user. I'm wrong because I don't have a clean room and a million dollars worth of machinery to build my own MB's. :rofl:

What I say is the truth. You can deny it all you want but a PC can be made to run as well as a Mac if the person using it likes to invest the time. People without the time or inclination should use Mac. Unless you are a gamer. Then you need to avoid Mac like the plague.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. You sound like my BIL about linux

that said, you CAN tinker on that MAC too... but I am sure you knew that.

Or perhaps not.

Me, the vista experience has been so shocking that if I want a machine to work, I get OS X (or linux) if I want to tinker, get a windows box.

And as to games... not fast enough but I suspect the next time we buy a gaming rig it will be a MAC. Yep, they are moving in that direction. Again I am proof positive you knew that.

[Deja Q]

35. I tinkered with my Macbook Pro...

Replaced the hard drive.

Oh, I'm so cool because I just did what PC users do far more often. I had a really big orgasm by doing so too!!!!111!!112

Oh, I was a PC enthusiast for 20+ years. At this time, I want to use computers as tools; not for being than just an egowanking energy sucking machine. And that registry alone adds a level of instability I don't want. Not to mention reactivating after updating the BIOS - what a freakin' joke...

Oh, I play games on my Mac too. Chess and "The Sims 2". Big sodding deal. I prefer my design apps, which is why I moved away from the PC platform (PC='Pretty Crappy') in the first place.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. We have a vista for gaming, hubby's machine

no, he cannot do city of heroes on the x-box... sorry

But I use a macbook at home and a small netbook xp box on the road.

Only reason that one is not running Ubuntu is the little issue with one writing app that does not play well with WINE or cross over.

:-)

But the registry... oooh boy. don't get me started, I know

And vista is just a sucky OS... as in very sucky OS... I hoped the first SP would solve most of the issues, like it did with XP (which most people forget, original release was sucky and crashed the machine that to this day runs it... the ten year old compaq) But Vista is not even going to go for SP 2, hell seven sounds like SP 2 and they are gonna make me pay for it... bloody hell!

Me, OS X, thank you... it is stable

[Deja Q]

41. Hell, Vista SP1 doesn't fix the file transfer speed problem...

Or was it a streaming video problem in media player?

I don't remember... or care... vista is just shite and I regret ever defending it. Stable or not, using 1.8GB of RAM for itself is just wrong; especially on a 4GB or 8GB computer and despite the claim, 'unused ram is wasted ram', vista just lets it sit there unused. Therefore, it's a LIE, the claim 'unused ram is wasted ram'.

Vista is a waste.


And MS really should give it out for free to the suckers, I mean customers, who bought into it. I mean, if Win7 is "what Vista should have been", that's a virtual admission of foul play. Like how "XP is what we wanted 2000 to be". MS officials are on record saying that... next time, I'm keeping every magazine these suits say. It's fun having more proof when pointing out where they're wrong...

OS X rocks. It's as simple as that.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. Had to reformat drive, long story involving fry's

never ever take a puter there for fixing...

Anyhow, I have yet to load SP 1 on that piece of crap that will not even run Dreamweaver in a competent fashion... will not even load it... I have a copy that runs on my macbook, so why bother?

[Deja Q]

34. Games? That's the only argument? Bloody 'ell, get a sodding PS3 and not a PC requiring 1000 watts

;)

What's your take on 'climate change', again?

I also came from the arena of homebuilt PCs. I know how to optimize them; ever play with the registry and system services much?

I also know that an OS using 1.8GB of available RAM in a 8GB system (and not ignoring the remaining 6.2GB despite the OS being sold with the bullshit line "unused RAM is wasted RAM) is a wretched WASTE of material.

I stopped drinking the microsoft kool-aid.

What I say is the truth too.

Let's kiss and have some great make-up sex. :*

Have fun gaming. That's all Winbloat is good for, and a console box is just as good for that too. I have my tools for applications and the console box for games. Enjoy your electric bill too. Those are real fun to pay every month...

[walldude]

42. Yeah a 3 year old console is as good as my PC...

:eyes: So you couldn't defeat my argument about gaming so you made fun of it. Gimme a break. I don't need any Kool-Aid, I am not a fan of MS I am also not a fan of Apple. I think both companies are complete ripoffs. Microsoft with their crap OS and pay for upgrades and Apple for the horrible mess that is ITunes and their holier than thou service departments and stores.

Oh and you are calling me out on climate change because I use a PC for games??? :rofl: Whatever floats your boat. I'll stick with my original point. PC and Mac are two different animals for two different kinds of people.

Oh and there are a number of other things PC beats Mac in but none of them are legal so I don't talk about them ;)

Oh and one more thing, I have a XBox 360, a PS2 and a Wii. I told you I'm a hard core gamer. I still prefer the mouse/keyboard control of the PC not to mention the fact that my PC crushes any consoles in the speed/graphics dept.

[DCKit]

29. yawn. Microsoft, windows... what's this OP about?

Happily using Ubuntu Linux here. Still can't do everything I used to with XP, but my PC's up and running and haven't lost a hard drive full of information and personal data in months.

Never again. Got that Mr. Gates? N.E.V.E.R. Windoze sukz.

[TahitiNut]

33. Couldn't wait. Just got 64-bit HP machine w/Vista Ultimate ... 10-year-old Win98 machine failing.

I'm still posting using my old 450MHz Pentium-II Win98 machine as I transfer files to a USB disk drive. My new HP Pavilion Elite ATX was delivered last week. I've done the initial configuration and O/S updates and now must painfully transfer files. The new machine is 6GB of DDR2 with 640 GB RAID-0 and a 1GB NVIDIA GeForce graphics card.

I guess I'll have to upgrade to Win7 when the SP hits sometime about a year from now.

[CreekDog]

37. That's a threat, right?

:wtf:

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. Yeh shall buy the new shinny baubble citizen... on penalty of...

I don't know.

:-)