ron christie, frank gaffney, cliff may

[spanone]

who are three people who support torture and the bu$h* administration's use of it?

who are three neocons who appeared today on msnbc today?

[ellenfl]

1. i'm asking the same question. eom

[annabanana]

2. Gaffney:

Gaffney began his public service career in the 1970s, working as an aide in the office of Democratic Senator Henry M. Jackson, under Richard Perle. From August 1983 until November 1987, Gaffney held the position of Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Nuclear Forces and Arms Control Policy in the Reagan Administration, again serving under Perle.<1> In April 1987, Gaffney was nominated to the position of Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy; he served as the acting Assistant Secretary for seven months,<1> although his confirmation was ultimately blocked by the United States Senate.

In 1988 Gaffney established the Center for Security Policy (CSP), a self-described conservative national security and defense policy organization. The CSP is subsidized by donors supportive of conservative causes, including the Sarah Mellon Scaife Foundation, the Shelby Cullom Davis Foundation and the William H. Donner Foundation.<2>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gaffney

[emulatorloo]

Christie: former special assistant to Bush, deputy assistant to Dick Cheney

OOPS I put this in the wrong place'

[annabanana]

3. Clifford D. May:

Clifford D. May is the president of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies and the Chairman of the Policy Committee department within the Committee on the Present Danger. He works as a columnist and as a talk show host as well. He also used to be a reporter, a foreign correspondent, and a newspaper editor.<1>

May served as the Director of Communications for the Republican National Committee from 1997 to 2001.<1> In his position, he oversaw activities such as strategic planning, press, radio, television and online services, speechwriting, and advertising. He worked as the editor of Rising Tide, the official Republican Party magazine. He also used to be the Vice Chairman of the Republican Jewish Coalition.<3>

After leaving the RNC, he became a director in the Washington, D.C. office of BSMG Worldwide, a public affairs and public relations company.In 2006, he was appointed an adviser to the Iraq Study Group.<3[br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_May

[emulatorloo]

4. Better yet, why have the Republicans hitched their wagon to Defending Torture???

It really makes no sense to me.

Do they think this is a "winning issue" for them?

Why do they feel that Cheney must be protected and defended over the indefensible.

It seems crazy and irrational.

I wish someone could explain this.

[spanone]

8. it must all go back to the terror, terror, terror theme of the last eight years

otherwise, you're right, it makes ABSOLUTELY no sense

[annabanana]

10. Their only hope is to convince people that torture is "not that bad"

If they prevail my American Heart will stay broken and I will be a woman without a Country.

[emulatorloo]

13. That's what I don't get -- is is worth selling their souls for Dick Cheney?

If so, why?

[Jane Austin]

15. Because they are hoping another terrorist attack

will rescue their reputations.

[Creena]

5. Did you happen to catch May on The Ed Show?

It's torture when the Japanese did it, but not under the Bush administration.

Edit: I just noticed malaise mentioned it already. Whoops.

[spanone]

9. then he said, 'you can waterboard up to a point'...why would ANYONE defend dick cheney?

[Creena]

12. It seems they're grasping for straws now.

I'd love to hear the supposed cutting of point for waterboarding. Oi vey. :eyes:

[annabanana]

6. Ron Christie

Most recently, he was Executive Vice President and Director of Global Government Affairs at Ruder Finn and Of Counsel at the DC law firm of Patton Boggs, LLP. From 2002 to 2004, he was Acting Director of USA Freedom Corps and special assistant to President George W. Bush. He began service at the White House in 2001 as deputy assistant to Vice President Cheney for domestic policy, advising the Vice President on policy initiatives in health care, budget, tax and other policy areas."<3>
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ron_Christie

[spanone]

11. thanks, so he actually worked under cheney....i didn't know that

[annabanana]

7. To my thinking, Gaffney is the worst of the three..

Ground floor guy.

[alsame]

14. Gaffney and May are also PNAC signatories. n/t

[emulatorloo]

16. I just watched Christie on Hardball -- He is angry, grasping at straws. THEY ARE SCARED

This crowd is in deep trouble and they realize it.

[GoCubsGo]

21. You ain't kidding!

And, it's not just about the potential for them to wind up in jail. I was just listening to Gaffney. Jeebus!!! Talk about a bed-wetter! Everything he spewed was "I am afraid! I am afraid! Be afraid of this! Be afraid of that!" His Sealy Posturepedic has got to be saturated with his pee.

Ron Christie... Have I told you lately how much I despise that cross-eyed, little prick? Both he and Gaffney kept bringing up how the Busheviks "kept us safe since 9-11", all the while completely ignoring that elephant in the room that goes by the name of 9-11. Yeah, you fucks "kept us safe" except for that one day when you didn't keep us safe.

[emulatorloo]

22. Schuster kind of alluded to that - showing Cheney's quote saying "on 9/12 we knew nothing about

AlQaeda"

And then listing all the things they should have known before 9/11, including the "Bin Laden determined to attack" PDB.

Christie just pulled a "Oh you are quoting Cheney out of context."

No, Ron, not really.

Then he fell back on blaming Clinton.

[blaze]

17. When did the EIT meme start?

My blood just boils every time I hear one of these guys say, "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques."

[spanone]

18. they are pushing the spin that waterboarding is not torture....good luck on that one

[blaze]

23. Oh I get that for sure

Just wondering if we can't pin the "sound bite" to anyone.

[SoCalDem]

19. Shame on the lackey media for always "inviting" the most annoying republicans on earth

I'm gonna need a new mute button :)

[muntrv]

20. 3 people who should prove that waterboarding works by doing it to them.