OMFG - Cliff May just said Japanese waterboarding was

[malaise]

torture but Bushco waterboarding was not torture.

"Me thinks' Cliff MAY regret saying that water-boarding is torture.

These fuckers are scared shitless.

Go Ed Shultz - you've nailed that bastard.

[spanone]

1. did you hear that shit? you can waterboard 'up to a point'

he's one sick fuck

[malaise]

4. They are feeling the noose

around their necks. The fuggers are scared shitless. Where is Feith these days - he's MIA.

I'm taking bets that Cheney will drop dead before he goes down.

[spanone]

6. why on god's green earth would a guy like cliff may go on teevee and say such stupid shit?

what does may have to gain? i'd think there is much to lose when you condone criminal activity

[Canuckistanian]

13. Ah, so waterboarding is "nuanced"

I think I need a user's manual on all these aspects.

[Justitia]

2. So why aren't police depts all over the USA waterboarding suspects?

I mean if it's not torture and is so helpful w/info & stuff?

[BeFree]

7. Good point

Be nice if police chiefs from around the nation could be asked why they don't waterboard their captives.

[Winterblues]

18. There were but they were tried for water boarding prisoners and put in jail

In 1983 a sheriff in Texas and two deputies were tried and convicted of water boarding prisoners and the deputies each got four years and the sheriff got ten year in the State Penitentiary. It was a crime then and it is a crime now. I know of no legislative body that decriminalized water boarding..

[tridim]

3. Their argument has hit a brick wall

Yet they're all still pushing it full throttle.

It's going to get them in real trouble eventually.

[Mojambo]

5. It's all in how you slant it (the eyes, that is...) n/t

[tekisui]

8. The non-stop defense of water-boarding leads to the question.....

What about sodomy, rape, beatings and murder? Will everyone of the assholes defend every one of the tactics or STFU and prosecute.

[malaise]

14. They will soon have to answer about the rape

and sodomy of those young boys in Iraqi prisons. We shall soon have an answer.

[billyoc]

9. Oh, yeah, THAT dude. Didn't he call the Secretary of State a "vaginal-american"?

I believe he did:

http://mediamatters.org/research/200710160010

That guy's a RIOT!!

:rofl:

[spanone]

10. dick cheney could set a child on fire in a mall and cliff may would rationalize it.

[tj2001]

11. Maybe he should volunteer for some comparison shopping

and tell us which one he really prefers.

[ejpoeta]

12. i want all these jerks to have to go through waterboarding. and not anything where they

can say they want to stop either. i want them to feel like a person being tortured feels. they think it's just fine.... then it should be just fine for them. i am tired of these jerks who are balatantly supporting the torture of american troops. because every time they say this crap, then they are saying it's ok to do it to our guys.

[gratuitous]

15. Republicans: Masters of Doublethink

Holding two contradictory thoughts in one's brain and convinced that both of them are true, depending on which one is being articulated at any given moment. And all this time, the Republicans have been the ones to claim that some things are always wrong or evil no matter what the situation, and that they're the ones best situated to tell the rest of us what's what. Now they've gone all squishy on . . . torture???

[LSK]

16. Schultz missed something, the Geneva conventions IS THE US LAW

The constitution states all treaties signed become the law of the land.

The guy was trying to say we are not beholden to international laws but per the Constitution he is wrong.

[mdmc]

17. who is cliff may?

:toast: