Liz Cheney Claims Victory In Obama Detainee Photo Reversal

[babylonsister]

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/torture/liz-cheney-claims-victory-in-obama-detainee-photo-reversal/

Liz Cheney Claims Victory In Obama Detainee Photo Reversal


On Tuesday, Liz Cheney was widely quoted bashing Obama for being prepared to release the detainee photos, a move she said would be anti-troops. “When did it become so fashionable for us to side, really, with the terrorists?” Cheney asked.

Yesterday, of course, Obama reversed his decision, citing national security. Now check out this nugget in today’s Washington Post piece on Dick Cheney’s ongoing torture tour:

“This isn’t about partisan politics, it’s about what’s right for the country,” said Liz Cheney, the former vice president’s daughter and a former State Department official. “Every American, whether you’re a Republican, Democrat or independent, would agree that before critical decisions are made about national security of the nation, we ought to have a full and fair debate.”

Cheney’s daughter was among those who pointed to yesterday’s White House reversal on the detainee photos as evidence that a vocal, public debate over the new administration’s policies can make a difference.

So Liz Cheney is claiming victory, and clearly, this will only embolden the Cheneys to keep up the assaults.

By saying that he has now concluded that releasing the photos would endanger the troops, Obama is reinforcing the idea that he was originally prepared to do something that would endanger the troops, and only reversed himself after conservatives called him out on it. Whatever the merits of Obama’s decision, its political impact is that it lets the Cheneys continue to frame the ongoing debate, and to continue casting a full torture accounting as a threat to our national security.

[leftofthedial]

1. That's because she and Dick won.

[Octafish]

10. She knows her Dick and the inside story.

What's a few pictures to a guy who's helped kill a million innocent people?

[NJmaverick]

2. The Cheney's have even less morals than the terrorists

I really didn't think that was possible, nor did I think an entire family could be that evil.

[Hepburn]

3. Hint....

...what does it take for some to realize that withholding the photos is NOT good?

Look who supports this action by Obama? Do you want to stand with them?

[villager]

4. a list of Obama's newfound fans, in light of this action (or non-action)

is all too revealing, I'm afraid...

[Hepburn]

9. My exact thoughts....

...do I have to even THINK about asking myself if I want to be on the same side of any issue as such putrid shit like McConnell, Graham, Cheney, etc?

One is known by the company he/she keeps ~~ no thanks being in that group now supporting Obama's conduct in try to get the photos withheld. They have -0- interest in the troops...this is all about protecting their collective, sick Pubbie asses.

JMHO

[babylonsister]

13. Depends on where your perspective is coming from.

And why do you care what 'they' say? This doesn't at all mean anyone is standing with 'them'.

This isn't over by a long shot.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

17. Cenk said it best yesterday

"I know there are some people who, when Obama does something, they will find any way to defend it... There is no secret genius behind this. It was assinine..."

[babylonsister]

18. Since I don't have a family member in the military,

I guess I don't have a leg to stand on. But many family members of the military are applauding the prez for not releasing the photos. I think their opinion is pretty important, too.



http://www.militaryfamiliesunited.org/?q=media/military...

Military Families Applaud Decision To Stop Detainee Photos
Wed, 05/13/2009 - 14:54


Washington, DC – May 13, 2009 –Military Families United, the nation’s premier military family advocacy organization, released the following statement concerning the news that President Obama ordered government lawyers to object to the planned release of hundreds of photographs showing alleged abuse of prisoners in detention facilities in Afghanistan and Iraq.

“America’s military families applaud the President’s decision to fight the release of the photographs depicting the alleged abuse of prisoners in detention facilities in Afghanistan and Iraq. The President today chose to put the safety of our troops before the demands of an activist agenda. These photographs serve no purpose other than to emboldened the enemy with propaganda to use in their recruitment of future Jihadists, hinder our mission in Iraq and Afghanistan and risk the lives our troops.

America is safer today because these photos are not public. And America is safer today because the President chose to stand up to the strong-arming tactics and legal maneuvering of the ACLU. Our troops will be able to continue cultivating relationships with the Iraqi people and building lasting bonds with the citizens of Afghanistan without those heinous images creating an environment of distrust and anger. America’s military families thank President Obama for standing up for the interest and safety of our troops.”

About Military Families United

Military Families United serves as the nation's premier military family advocacy organization, representing Gold and Blue Star families throughout the country and their loved ones who wear, or have worn, our nation's uniform. Military Families United was founded in the summer of 2008 as a not-for-profit, non-partisan 501c4 policy advocacy organization committed to supporting America's troops and their families. We fight to ensure that the sacrifices of these families are not in vain by giving them a voice in Washington, D.C and state governments throughout the country. Military Families United engages Members of Congress, the Administration, and the general public in efforts to communicate the truth about our brave men and women in uniform and their mission to protect our freedom that cost many of them their lives.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

19. Torture photos have already been released

I am sure the generals got to Obama and pleaded their case because these are the same generals who were in the chain of command under Bush. Protecting their self interest is much more important than culpability. Obama made a horrible decision on this and it has every appearance of him submitting to Liz and Dick Cheney. They are the ones dictating this policy, not Obama. These photos are going to be released anyway, legally they don't have a leg to stand on so not only does it look like Obama is letting Cheney dictate policy, they are going to probably lose this battle legally and it will be worse when that happens. This is yet more evidence that Obama does indeed not want to "look backwards" has he has put it. But like the Cenk quote, there are liberals that will defend Obama's decisions no matter what they are. I always thought being a Democrat and a liberal was based on principal not personality.

[Mari333]

23. I am the mother of 2 soldiers and I say Release the Photos

military families united? sounds like a gung ho group

try this one

http://www.mfso.org/

military families speak OUT against the wars

[Hepburn]

20. My perspective is that hiding evidence of wrong doing...

...is more wrongful than the original acts which are concealed.

[ixion]

5. Another GOP victory handed to them by a dem

:wtf:

We need accountability and rule of law, not appeasement.

And for the record, Liz, don't generalize and say we can all agree that we need to have a debate when certain folks commit war crimes for fun and profit, and call that national security.

I'm sick to death of this WoT BS. :grr:

[SoCalDem]

7. Perhaps when he returns from Egypt, he will re-change his mind

:)

All the Cheneys are evil, through and through..

[liberalmuse]

6. Now I know what a shit taco tastes like. n/t

[bdamomma]

8. well that's great Liz Cheney agrees with Pres. Obama

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[mmonk]

11. Darkness just won a round Liz but we will continue to fight scum of

the earth like you.

[Bluenorthwest]

12. Liz is claiming victory because she and her daddy won

The President folded. The rule of law is now cancelled. Let's hear more from the torture cover up administration about how religious they are, and how their Goddy God does not mind torture, but is wildly angry about gay folks wanting rights. Some kind of faith that is. Wrong is right, love is bad, truth is danger, lies are security. Amazing.

[Bluerthanblue]

14. Wow- the responses in this thread sure do show how easily 'we' are duped-

"Liz" claims victory- and the media prints it, and good little 'DU bies' that we are we just hand it over?

I don't believe "Liz" had squat to do with Obama's decision to release the photos. I think that decision came only as a result of what he and Gen. Gates and the other military heads discussed.

If WE are stupid enough to accept "Liz"'s spin on this, we deserve whatever we get.


:shrug:

[Sal Minella]

22. Remember the old joke about the flea floating down the river on his back,

who called out "Raise the drawbridge, I've got a hard-on."

Liz VASTLY overestimates the influence of whining ghouls sliming forth from the toppled regime.

[Mari333]

24. i never thought I would see the day when DUers would agree with the Cheneys

will wonders never cease.

[Bluerthanblue]

25. if the cheney's were swimming down in the lake

with my kids and me, and a thunderstorm came up, we'd all race for the shore and get the hell out of the water.

Just because we'd be standing on the same ground doesn't mean we shared much of anything else. Especially moral issues.

:shrug:

YOU are letting "Liz" define you- in otherwords, you are allowing her to frame your stand by her measure. Do you have to stand completely opposed to everything she says out of fear you might be seen as in league with her???

Geez... I'd hate to live like that.

[rusty fender]

15. Is this the "change" we voted for?

I guess it depends on what the meaning of "change" is.

[KharmaTrain]

16. Another Premature Mission Accomplished...

The cheneys and their plants may have won the battle, but this isn't the end of the "war". Eventually those pictures will come out...and even if they didn't, there are other time bombs that are ready to explode. Yesterday, Phillip Zelikow found his memo and the question about what was on it and why it was squashed is just as compelling and troubling for cheney as any new torture picture are.

This torture "debate" is far from over or won. Investigations are starting to ramp up and the public support for some kind of hearings grow. The more people learn, the worse it will get for the cheney cabal.

It's sooooo typical GOOP...delcare "victory" and expect the corporate media to agree.

[opihimoimoi]

21. Claiming victory??...WTF? of what? Cheney's are nuts, desperate too

[malaise]

26. Hope she says the same when her evil father is in the dock

Fuck Liz Cheney.