speaking of the cia..george h.w. bush was the director of the CIA ... 1976-1977...

[spanone]

he then became vice-president, then president.

41st President of the United States
In office
January 20, 1989 – January 20, 1993
Vice President Dan Quayle
Preceded by Ronald Reagan
Succeeded by Bill Clinton


43rd Vice President of the
United States
In office
January 20, 1981 – January 20, 1989
President Ronald Reagan
Preceded by Walter Mondale
Succeeded by Dan Quayle


11th Director of Central Intelligence
In office
January 30, 1976 – January 20, 1977
President Gerald Ford
Preceded by William E. Colby
Succeeded by Adm. Stansfield Turner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_hw_bush

[mitchum]

1. Everyone should be troubled by the strange and curious rise of Poppy

There are many unexplained "opportunities" in the man's career

[elleng]

2. 'strange and curious' NOT;

part of a well-laid plan.

[goclark]

3. Octofish, where are you? Where was GHWB that day in Dallas?

Poppy is the ring leader and always has been.

[Octafish]

6. Future DCI, VP, and POTUS GHW Bush told FBI he was in Dallas on November 22, 1963

Thanks for remembering, goclark!

Poppy Bush brought up JFK Assassination and ''Conspiracy Theorists'' at Ford Funeral

Russ Baker's new book, "Family of Secrets" picks it up and moves the story way forward.

[goclark]

17. Octafish,Glad to see you bring the information to us ~

Ole GW is mighty quiet these days, that must mean he is busy planning evil.

I'll never feel comfortable with the way he invited B Clinton to his summer home. I bet he had the place wired.

I just don't trust that man and I believe he is working with Cheney too.

GW is pulling the strings and this is one puzzle that America needs to solve.

[Sebastian Doyle]

4. Poppy Bush has been part of the CIA since the day he graduated from Yale

And it was Grandpa Prescott and his fellow Nazi funding, Depression causing, Wall Street Criminals who started the CIA, and it's their interests AND ONLY THEIR GODDAMNED INTERESTS that are served by the CIA to this day.

[Baby Snooks]

19. Bush and Dulles...

Who do you think Eisenhower was warning us about when he warned us about the "military-industrial complex?"

It was far more of a threat than Eisenhower realized. It has become a shadow government. Run by the CIA.

[Sebastian Doyle]

20. Yep. It was Prescott Bush who put the Eisenhower/Nixon ticket together

Nixon was a protege of the Bush Crime Family since 1946. Ike was a "golfing buddy" of Grandpa Bush. I don't know how much Eisenhower knew about their agenda when he got elected, but it obviously was too much for him, and he resisted their agenda. Which is why he wouldn't endorse his own VP in 1960, and why he warned the American people in his last official speech. Ike knew these bastards personally, and he knew what they were capable of.

[jobycom]

5. You know how you can tell the CIA had nothing to do with Kennedy's murder?

He's dead, isn't he?

I think it's a rule of thumb that anyone named head of the CIA has nothing to do with actually running the CIA. Bush Daddy was a perennial loser in Texas who kept getting promoted upwards because that was the easiest way to get rid of him. He sucked as president, he sucked at everything else he did, but he had just enough clout because of old Prescott to be a pain to people in power, and it was easier to promote him to meaningless positions than to fire him. Seriously, as president he was a complete failure because he couldn't get anybody to follow him, he couldn't strategize beyond the next bomb drop, and even when he accidentally won, he didn't know what to do next. He's a classic case of a man clever enough to survive but not smart enough to excel.

That's the Republican Way--if it succeeds, slander it. If it fails, promote it.

[EFerrari]

9. They had help from the mob and from the anti-Castro Cuban terrorists.

Their part was likely handling Oswald and they managed to screw that up.

Obama's administration is lousy with covert types. The new guy in Afghanistan was working the in the group that Sy Hersh called the assassination wing, remember? He's also known to have hidden prisoners and abused those in his custody. Gates has been in CIA since the 60s. And Blair was mixed up with them in East Timor.

You can't go forward when you're dragging your ugly past with you at every step.

[jobycom]

10. No matter who is hired

someone will be sure they were part of the Kennedy assassination and several other insider jobs. The right has its theories about birth certificates and Belgian armies and stop signs, the left has its theories about Poppy Bush and assassinations and such. Neither cares about evidence much. The actual conspiracies out there are easily gotten away with because there are so many fantasies about JFK and birth certificates from Kenya that the average person just lumps all conspiracies together.

[EFerrari]

11. That was the conclusion of the House Select Committee on Assassinations --

likely "rogue" CIA, mob, ant-Castro Cubans. (How sad is it that we even needed one. :( )

But, it is hard for most people to wrap their heads around what the CIA has done, is doing and will keep doing as long as they have the impunity.

[jobycom]

12. Actually, the HSCA concluded Oswald shot Kennedy

and that the CIA, Castro, et al were NOT involved. They concluded that Oswald fired three shots, that the second shot hit Kennedy and Connally, and the third shot killed Kennedy.

They also concluded based on a Dictabelt recording made available to them that a fourth shot was fired, and based only on that recording, concluded that there was therefore a conspiracy of at least two, though none of the usual suspects could have been involved. Since then, the sound recording has been reevaluted a dozen ways to Sunday, and it's been shown that the HSCA conclusions were bogus. The tape was at the wrong time, the wrong place, and even if it were where they said it was, the sound patterns didn't match gunshots.

Considering that the majority of Americans think there was a conspiracy, and the majority think that the CIA was involved, I'd say people have no trouble "wrapping their heads around" the idea of the CIA as assassins. What they can't wrap their heads around--whether it be evolution, global warming, or the JFK assassination, is scientific evidence that destroys theories they hold dear.

[EFerrari]

13. I don't think that is right, jobycom. Forgive me if it's too late to fish

but this is from their wiki entry which isn't very precise:

The Committee investigated until 1978, and in 1979 issued its final report, concluding that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald, probably as a result of a conspiracy. The members of this probable conspiracy were not identified. However, the committee noted that it believed that the conspiracy did not include the governments of the Soviet Union or Cuba, nor the FBI, the CIA, or the Secret Service. It also stated it did not believe the conspiracy was organized by any organized crime group, nor any anti-Castro group, but that it could not rule out individual members of either of those groups acting together.

I don't know anything about the Dictabelt except that I'm very happy I never had to use one. lol

[jobycom]

14. It's all right.

Here's a link to the wiki on the Dictabelt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictabelt_evidence_relating_to_the_assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

Here's a link on the summary page of the full HSCA report (You can read the whole report if you want, just follow the links):
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/report/html/HSCA_Report_0005a.htm
It's a PDF, so I can't cut from it.

[EFerrari]

15. Thanks. I need to go back and look at this and at the Church Committee's

findings because I don't remember the difference any more.

[Octafish]

7. Unelected POTUS and former Warren Commission FBI stooge Ford appointed Poppy DCI to cover-up...

...the Family Jewels, among other things, f'r instance...

Frank Church and the Abyss of Warrantless Wiretapping

Know your BFEE: The Secret Government

Know your BFEE: Reinhard Gehlen

Know your BFEE: Poppy’s CIA Made Saddam Into the Butcher of Baghdad

Know your BFEE: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ford Covered Up CIA Murder of American Scientist

Know your BFEE: Spawn of Wall Street and the Third Reich

A very grotesque subject that I wish was more pleasant. Knowing there are others who give a damn makes their burden much ligher.

[Recursion]

8. And director of the RNC during Watergate

Don't forget that little bit.

[LSK]

16. are you trying to say Leon Panetta will run in 2016???

:D

[spanone]

18. bwahahaha..that's it....