How much has Nancy Pelosi been damaged by these attacks?

[kentuck]

Can she still be an effective speaker? Or should she consider stepping down?

What would happen if she were to step down? Would that be the end of the torture investigation or would it add fuel to continuing the investigation? Or will it be forgotten in a few days?

The truth of the matter is that Pelosi brought much of this upon herself. Because she was compromised by this information, she was unable to investigate the Bush Administration and she surprised many liberals when she decided to "take impeachment off the table". Now she is paying the price for her lack of judgement.

If she were to step down, would that be a victory for Dick Cheney and the Republicans? If she stays in her position, will it not be more difficult to discuss the "torture" matter any further? What is your opinion?

[Mz Pip]

1. Think of who

the past few Republican Speakers were - like Tom (INDICTED) DeLay.

Nancy is a saint compared to him.

I don't think she should step down. I just wish she would turn this around on the Repugs.

[opihimoimoi]

2. They are Framing her...she is a TARGET of the BULLY GOP

She will survive and beat them

[kentuck]

3. Don't you think this has effectively killed the torture investigation?

No one, in either Party, will want to talk about it any more, because of Nancy Pelosi?

[lapfog_1]

5. What makes you think this is about Nancy Pelosi?

Think for a minute. If Nancy had never attended even the SINGLE briefing by the Bush CIA, do you think that we would be discussing treason and war crimes now? That Cheney would be perp walked into a federal court house or to the Hague?

Or is it possible we would simply be talking about some OTHER democrat now?

This isn't about Pelosi, it's about misdirection.

[kentuck]

7. True but...

it has been an effective misdirection. Do you think Nancy would want to continue talking about this or would she prefer to let it drop? Which would you prefer she do? I think she wants the issue to die and it will.

[lapfog_1]

13. She is making the same mistake that Dems in Washington

have made for decades now... they think that the obvious bullshit stories will die off because "no reasonable person" would believe them...

Unfortunately, they are always wrong. The tactic should be to forcefully confront the bullshit (repudiate it, with facts and witnesses) and then call the asshole repukes on their "distraction agenda". Grind it home in interview after interview. Flip it on the repukes until the story is "WHY did republicans try to distract the public from the real issue, the war crimes committed, the motive behind the war crimes, and why aren't we prosecuting these war criminals?"

We can't work with the republican minority, so therefore we must make the republican minority so small as to be inconsequential. A 66+ seat majority in the Senate, a 100+ seat majority in the house, and no chance that another criminal treasonous bastard repuke will ever be President again.

The repukes will be the Washington Generals to our Harlem Globetrotters. Present, but totally ineffective and a source of humor for the fans.

[kentuck]

14. I would agree but..

I don't think the Democrats, especially Pelosi, has the backbone to do it. I would be very surprised.

[MadMaddie]

12. No! I actually think the Repugs have made a strategical error

Remember Nancy has the power to allow Senate investigations, she wasn't going to do it before. Now that the CIA is trying to label her as a lier they also have screwed themselves.

The Repugs have (through their idiocy) have allowed the proverbial can of worms to be openend. Cheney has had a big hand in that also....

No it's all fair game now and I suspect that Nancy is angry now....angry enough to actually let the law work like it's supposed to. :popcorn:

[lunatica]

15. I agree. They ill thought out strategy will backfire on them

They're still functioning as if it was 2003 and haven't realized that they blew their wad so badly that they've become a joke. Nancy will survive this and I think she'll come away with a very tough and hard lesson about her assumptions that the Right are 'colleagues on the other side of the aisle' are really more like cut throats doing anything to save their own asses.

But by attacking her this way they've as much as admitted it was torture after all. Why would they attack her if they thought she supported 'enhanced interrogations' along with them?

[opihimoimoi]

17. She gonna call their bluff and demand a TRUTH COMMISSION

which will exonerate her and place blame where it belongs...to the GOP Machine ....

The Bully GOP gonna be SORRYEEE

[kentuck]

18. I hope you are right, opihimoimoi...

But I am very skeptical about it happening.

[opihimoimoi]

21. The GOP are SELFCENTERED ASSHOLES...they care NOT for "COUNTRY FIRST"

They are of the BULLY GROUP...those that are very Selfish and Domineering

They always want THEIR WAY....even if it means the People will suffer....they have no EMPATHY

Classic sign of a BULLY

[snowdays]

4. and the WH will let her twist in the wind...........

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush /

May 15, 2009
Gibbs dodges Pelosi question

The White House wants nothing to do with this Nancy Pelosi fight with the CIA.

Not long after CIA Director Leon Panetta put out a statement sticking by his agency, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs dodged a question about whether Pelosi was right in questioning the CIA.

"I think you've heard the president say this a number of times: the best thing we can do is to look forward," Gibbs said. "I appreciate the invitation to get involved in here, but I'm not gonna RSVP,"

[snowdays]

6. and the WH will let her twist in the wind...........

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush /

May 15, 2009
Gibbs dodges Pelosi question

The White House wants nothing to do with this Nancy Pelosi fight with the CIA.

Not long after CIA Director Leon Panetta put out a statement sticking by his agency, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs dodged a question about whether Pelosi was right in questioning the CIA.

"I think you've heard the president say this a number of times: the best thing we can do is to look forward," Gibbs said. "I appreciate the invitation to get involved in here, but I'm not gonna RSVP,"

[mazzarro]

8. Conditionally Will Support Her Stepping Down

I agree with you that she brought this unto herself with her equivocations and attempts to curry favor from the rethugs. I also think that she seriously damaged by this futile battle with the CIA even if the CIA is in th wrong because not a whole lot of people will summon the courage to stand with her in this. I will, however, support her stepping down if only she will be replaced by a tough leader like Henry Waxman not by Steny Hoyer - who is another compromiser in he mold of Pelosi.

[emulatorloo]

9. Most Americans have no clue who Nancy Pelosi is. As to the rest of you post

all she has to do is keep pushing for an investigation.

She needs to call the Republican's bluff.

Bob Graham backs up her account, so I do not believe she is as compromised as you think.

[kentuck]

10. So do you think she will continue to push for an investigation??

I think she will be quiet as a mouse.

[emulatorloo]

22. She has been calling for some kind of investigation all along. She needs to sharpen her message.

At least that is my understanding.

[Crabby Appleton]

11. She wasn't an effective speaker to start with,

worse now.

[JitterbugPerfume]

16. when she took impeachment off the table

she exposed her weak spot, and eventually they pounced on it just like the jackals they are. She tried to go along to get along and it just does not work with those people.

I believe she is a good person with good intentions , and that she is right about the torture briefing.

We need a bulldog (maybe Waxman?) as speaker.

[hayu_lol]

19. The sooner we dump Pelosi, Hoyer, and Reid...

and replace them with individuals who can control our 'weak sister' dinos in both the House and the Senate, the sooner we can start to block the ever-present foolishness of the out-of-control-repugnants.

Nancy killed herself when she dramatically took Impeachment off the table. She had a reason for doing so...and her husband is a war profiteer which doesn't help.

Pelosi, Hoyer, and Reid are absolutely spineless and useless.

[emilyg]

20. +1