The Abortion Prevention Act of 2009

[WeDidIt]

Barack Obama's commencement speech today got me thinking. This is just a rought idea at this point...

Whereas, The United States of America wishes to reduce the number of aborted pregnancies, and
Whereas, The costs of carrying a pregnancy to term are many many times greater than the cost to obtain an abortion, and
Whereas, The United States would never want the monetary cost of carrying a pregnancy to term to factor into the decision to obtain an abortion,
Be it enacted by the Congress of the United States of America that one hundred percent of medical care costs during a pergnancy and for one year after birth for both the mother and the child(ren) shall be born as an expenditure of the current Medicare and Medicaid systems.

This puts single payer forefront in both the abortion and the healtchare debates and no rightwingnut would even consider voting against an Abortion Prevention Act.

Thoughts?

[Mythsaje]

1. Tricky...

I like tricky.

[WeDidIt]

3. Just taking a lesson from how the rightwingers work

Calling it a "Death Tax" insured the kids of their rich buddies would never have to gibve up part of their inheritance and could laze away their lives beside the pool.

So calling a single payer healthcare plan for pregnant women and their children an "Abortion PRevention Act" is just turnabout being fair play.

:evilgrin:

[Warpy]

7. It would certainly reduce the dismal statistics this country enjoys

in infant and maternal mortality. Fewer women would be neglected to death.

However, it wouldn't reduce the number of abortions unless it covered the period until the age of 2, when toddler can be toilet trained.

Other countries do give mothers a stipend until the kid turns two.

Other countries are civilized.

[anonymous171]

2. I love it. nt

[patrice]

4. Needs Free Day-Care at minimum and Free Education, including post-secondary, too. nt

[WeDidIt]

5. Sure, bundle all of this into an omnibus Abortion Prevention Act.

:D

[patrice]

6. Women who can take care of themselves and their children will choose not to have abortions. nt

[REP]

11. Wrong.

If I were to find myself pregnant, I'd abort as possible. Has nothing to do with money or relationship status - I simply do not want to be a mother. I'm not the only woman like this. Stop projecting your prejudice of 'woman = mother' onto others. It may be true for you, but it is not a universal truth.

[lolly]

18. Not sure abortion is even the main point here

The idea is to introduce some form of single payer health care for at least some of the population--and give it a name that will force anti-choice people--the majority of whom, I'm pretty sure, are adamantly against government health care---to admit that they don't give a fig about pregnant women or babies and their health and safety.

I guess indirectly it could boost real pro-choice efforts, if people sitting on the fence were suddenly forced to see that the anti-choice faction is all about hating sinful women and not about saving babies.

[WeDidIt]

20. Bingo! n/t

[patrice]

22. Encore!

:applause:

[patrice]

21. Please point out where I said 100%. "Women" implies some just as much as it implies all. It is your

desire to read it the way that you do that makes it 100% of Women.

P.S. Wrong.

P.P.S. Pot kettle on projecting anything.

[uppityperson]

25. Women who can take care of themselves and their children will still choose to have abortions.

I read it as all women also. Perhaps inserting "some" would have been wise if that is what you meant.

[uppityperson]

23. Not necessarily, but day care and education help would very much help also

There are many many many reasons women get abortions, with economics being only one. However, having decent affordable daycare available, and education, would help some.

[struggle4progress]

19. !

[Mythsaje]

8. I like this idea

It needs more recs

[WeDidIt]

15. Looks like not too many people agree with you

:shrug:

Oh well. Must not have been a very good idea.

[malletgirl02]

9. Good Idea

It is very Machiavellian in a good way.

[REP]

10. Won't end abortion, of course

It will do nothing to stop pregnancies that to too dangerous to carry to term; it won't make women who are too fragile to continue a pregnancy suddenly healthy enough, and it it won't make a woman who doesn't want to give birth suddenly want to if someone else picks up the tab. I see what you're getting at, but it won't end abortion. Throw in free contraception adn surgical sterilization to all who want it, and then you may be talking about something,

[WeDidIt]

14. The idea is to REDUCE abortions

Nothing will ever end abortions.

[dorkulon]

12. If the fundies actually cared about preventing abortions, wouldn't they be pro-contraception?

Yes, they would. This is about orgasm prevention.

[armyowalgreens]

13. I like the idea. Money should not be a factor in abortions.

[Aloha Spirit]

16. Option Two: The free market should decide. Anything else would be harmful to small business.

Frpm the GOP grab bag of stock issue responses.

[randr]

17. No one supports abortion

Some people support a woman's right to control her own body and destiny.
Some people will not give women that right.
All people need to discuss and decide how best to make the world a better place to bring children.
Bob had it right from the beginning:
You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins
from: Masters of War
The people to blame for unborn deaths are the war mongers.
In all likelihood a child was bombed to death while I typed this reply.

[uppityperson]

24. I don't see "the monetary cost of carrying a pregnancy to term to factor into the decision to obtain

"the monetary cost of carrying a pregnancy to term to factor into the decision to obtain an abortion," as much of a factor. Economically, it is NOT just carrying a pregnancy to term, but all the economics after that.

However, I would like to see 100% medical costs prenatal, for 5 yrs post natal (for mom and child) and 100% free daycare provided also.

[WeDidIt]

27. That really doesn't matter too much

The idea is to open the door for single payer insurance for pregnancies and newborns.

:evilgrin:

[Toucano]

26. I think that is a nice idea, but economics will still be a factor in some people's decision.

It isn't merely the cost of the pregnancy and delivery, obviously, that some have to take into consideration.

[dflprincess]

28. Something should be added specifically guaranteeing paid maternal leave

(your list only mentions medical expenses for a year) 12 months should be enough - that will still keep us from being as liberal as Sweden.

And let's add something about the child receiving Medicaid until age 18.