The argument for torture is simple: "Evil is good when it benefits me."

[ThomWV]

That is the Right's argument in a nutshell. In saying torture was necessary to protect America all that is being said is evil is good when it benefits me. Let the religious types deal with that synopsis.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

1. Yes.

[jgraz]

2. Congratulations. You just stated the entire platform of the GOP in seven words.

[Kitty Herder]

5. Yep.

It makes me wonder why they manage to win any elections at all.

[jgraz]

6. Why do they win elections? Because a large part of this country agrees with them.

[ixion]

3. that's what evil is all about

it's about what's good for the person inflicting the evil.

[armyowalgreens]

8. Well that's not necessarily true.

True acts of evil can be acts of absolute destruction where no one benefits.

[ixion]

9. every action has a same and opposite reaction

there is always someone who benefits.

[Cirque du So-What]

4. Some of these troglodytes don't care if torture works or not

I've heard some actually admit to it. They say it's being done to our troops - and would be done regardless of whether we did it or not - so allow me the vicarious thrill of knowing the infidels are being made to suffer. When I point out that more subtle interrogation techniques are far more effective, they remain unswayed. I reduced one of them to a quivering blob who was beside himself with rage when I told him that he didn't give a fuck about national security, or else he'd want the most effective techniques used. I invited him to try inflicting some pain on me if he didn't mind some back in return, but he declined.

[armyowalgreens]

7. When done in the name of god, nothing is evil.

Don't you know that?:eyes: :eyes: