While the posts tearing down Pelosi and Obama continue, so does the Yoo debate.

[geckosfeet]

The latest poor information on John Yoo

I have been fairly disgusted by some of the posts that I have read regarding Pelosi and Obama, and I won't do them the courtesy of cross linking.

Pelosi - Not that I think Pelosi is doing a great or even good job, she has been merely acceptable. But she needs to come clean and set the record straight so she can pursue the torture criminals with a clean slate. Being called a hypocrite is not s very big sin in politics, and one has to wonder at the thought process of people calling for her to resign because of it.

Obama - (please) As far as Obama not living up to their expectations, well, call me gullible, but I still marvel when I hear him speak. And I still wake up every morning thankful that the rubbish that previously occupied the white has vacated the premises. However the previous occupants left a huge mess behind. One that I don't think Obama or anyone can clean up in four or even eight years.

What truly sickens me, is that a news organization would hire John Yoo, one of the architects of the Bush torture program, while Pelosi is railroaded into resigning the speakership.
The latest poor information on John Yoo

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. Do you really think Pelosi will be forced to resign? nt

[blogslut]

2. It's amazing, isn't it?

What's even more amazing is the fact that Yoo's father-in-law was banished from the American press for telling the truth about the war in Iraq.

[Vinca]

3. Who hired Yoo?

[geckosfeet]

7. See story in link.

[Vinca]

8. The link isn't working for me - that's why I asked.

[geckosfeet]

10. A Philadelphia newspaper called the Inquirer.

1. The substance: Yoo worked as a key lawyer in the Justice Department during George W. Bush's first term who not only sought to nullify the Geneva Convention for terrorism detainees but signed off on waterboarding and other forms of torture, and also argued for quasi-dictatorial powers for the president in an undeclared war on terror, which could include suspending the right of free press for a newspaper like the Inquirer. Nonetheless, the Inquirer last year handed Yoo, now a law professor, the keys to a sought-after piece of journalistic real estate as a monthly columnist on the op-ed page.

[Vinca]

12. I hope he gets to write his column from prison.

[ForrestGump]

9. No, yoo hired who.

And What is on second.

[Mister Ed]

11. I thought Hires wooed Yoo. n/t

[AndyA]

4. Pelosi could have handled things differently.

She could have set the tone by putting impeachment on the table as the main course, but she didn't. And now everyone wonders if it was taken off the table because she was complicit in it. I don't believe that she was, but she needs to come clean NOW about it. (All of it.)

As for Obama, I guess people could still be in the infatuation stage with him as long as they aren't gay, don't expect him to honor his campaign promises, and think continuing Bush-era policies is good for the country. Personally, I think he's going to lose a lot of support if he doesn't get his shit together quickly.

He's going to be the Torture President II if he keeps heading down the path he's on.

[babylonsister]

5. She 'came clean' last week and has been roundly criticized

for what she said. Granted, it wasn't pretty, but those were her recollections, backed up by Bob Graham, who proved the CIA was stretching the truth.

We are allowing the rethugs to frame this. And Pelosi sure isn't getting a whole lot of support.

[geckosfeet]

6. No - it wasn't pretty. And if that's it, then it needs to play 24-7 because that's what

the thugs are going to do. I am not advocating a shouting match. But surely her aides can put together a measured, competent and consistent response contradicting the thug accusations. That would go a long way towards destroying what little credibility the thugs have left.

[KharmaTrain]

13. Divide & Conquer...

It was the game the GOOP played to grab power in the 80's and 90's. They were able to cast doubts within the Democratic ranks that became the big story while allowing the rushpublicans to escape their own criminality. In Iran-Contra it became the "Democrats" abuse of investigative power (oh that poor Ollie North) and then what we did or didn't know about Gary Hart's sex life. So is this trick new? Hardly.

GOOP operatives don't live in a vacuum. They see the Pelosi hate from those on this side and see it as fertile ground. And we saw how effective it can be as we're still messing around with this issue and the corporate media still obsesses what a member of the minority (with no power) knew about war crimes rather than looking at the criminals who designed and ordered it. Instead, they still cozy up to those criminals...still fearful that cheney will lock them all away or pull out the compromising photos.

Yoo's day is coming, and he knows it. Any commission or war crimes investigation will have him in the crosshairs and he's gotta make the most of building his case before the walls close in on him. While some see him as defiant, I see him as a weak link...he compromised any standards to serve his masters and if he finds his ass on the line he'll turn on them. If faced with going to trial or turning, I've got my money on him ratting out the whole cabal.

[D-Lee]

14. The anti-Pelosi drumbeat is just another Repug anti-Dem line, with sexism added

Pelosi has been entirely consistent in her comments.

It is the attacks calling her a liar that are based on suppositions, depending on facts which are nowhere close to resolved.

And, pretty amazing that the Repugs are calling on her to quit or be subject to criminal charges for "lying," when they have been Liars-in-Chief as to the reasons for their wars. Consistency? Not so much.