****OFFICIAL MARCH THREAD #2************

[ncrainbowgrrl]

1st thread here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=56314&mesg_id=56314

[ncrainbowgrrl]

1. Medea Benjamin up now!

[ThatsMyBarack]

2. PULL OUT NOW!

:applause:

[Wiley50]

My Ex Used To Say The Same Thing. About The Same Tone Of Voice Too n/t

[GenDem]

3. "Pull out, Now"

[ncrainbowgrrl]

4. Andrew Murray from Great Britain up now

[ncrainbowgrrl]

5. "you can impeach your president!"

[cyberpj]

6. Saying Brits know we don't support Bush. Encouraging Impeachment. nt

[LeftishBrit]

29. We do know it!

Blair loves Bush, but most Brits and Americans don't.

[cyberpj]

105. Thank God for that. Gives hope that other countries know we're being led by a dictator. nt

[shireen]

7. the anti-Americans are the politicians [supporting the war]

what a great line!

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

10. Truer words, truer words... n/t

[JohnnyLib2]

8. Big cheer for "you can impeach...."

Dare I say it was "hugh?"

[hlthe2b]

9. Anyone know when Jane Fonda comes up?

I'd like to hear her (among others), but my little doggie girl knows there's fresh snow falling out there (Denver), so I will be drug from my CSPAN perch soon! LOL

[johnnie]

11. Is that Sean Penn in the back?

[shireen]

15. and Jane Fonda standing next to him nt

[johnnie]

18. Ok, I see Fonda

And Sarandon on the other side.

[LSK]

17. Probably, Danny Glover, Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins are there

[shireen]

12. is that Sean Penn standing behind Ann WRight?

Wright is great!

[cyberpj]

13. I see Sean Penn in the background. Didn't know he'd be there. nt

[BuyingThyme]

14. This is what an American hero looks like.

(Ann Wright.)

[tyedyeto]

16. Right now it's a rally, not a march

When will they take to the streets? Anyone know?

[cyberpj]

19. Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Sean Penn and Jane Fonda are now speaking. nt

[GenDem]

20. Up, right now!!!

[LSK]

21. Fonda gets a good response

[cyberpj]

28. "Silence is no longer and option" - She was quiet so as not to draw negative attn before.

She has brought her grandchildren to witness.

[shireen]

22. word of the day ....

IMPEACH!!!

[lyonn]

107. You got that Right IMPEACHMENT not off table and Jane

made this old lady proud.

She made a mistake years ago, got caught up in the moment I suspect, and she has been trashed ever since. After all that bush has done and said to and about his own country, Jane's errors are nothing, might throw in Clinton's errors in this forgiveness thing.

No, impeachment is not off the table.

[JohnnyLib2]

23. Drudge has put up a protest story

Including a picture of protest signs.

[EstimatedProphet]

24. Are people booing Jane Fonda?

[cyberpj]

25. Nope. That would be truly pathetic. nt

[JohnnyLib2]

27. I'm afraid there are some boos.

It seems to me anyone can acknowledge the woman's pure guts.

[EstimatedProphet]

36. I thought I heard some. Shame.

[johnnie]

26. I didn't hear it

It sounded like she got a pretty good round of applause.

[bdamomma]

98. I did not hear no boos for her

let that woman speak!!

[EstimatedProphet]

123. She should, but I thought I heard some

I think it would be a shame, frankly.

[LSK]

30. no, she is getting a good response, we do not believe the lies about her

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

31. Jane Fonda "Silence is no longer an option"..

She's doing a fantastic job. Jane, :yourock:

[JohnnyLib2]

34. Amen. Such a potent reminder of lessons not learned.

I've had the same thoughts about my kids and grandkids, how sad that the same mistakes have been made and the same fight to correct the country's course is necessary.

[KelleyKramer]

32. Have they shown any wide shots of the crowd??

Just put it on and was wondering what kind of turn-out there was ??

[eleny]

45. Tim Robbins now speaking - just said....

He doesn't know what the papers will show tomorrow. But there are people as far as the eyes can see.

[cyberpj]

33. Now Sarandon up. Talking about the soldiers' plight. nt

[GenDem]

37. Wow, so many staggering statistics!

Thank you, Susan Sarandon, for telling it!

[JohnnyLib2]

38. Powerful. Right on target.

Send her to testify!

[cyberpj]

39. Vet benefits cut each year -- here are some facts:

1 in 3 homeless are military vets
1 in 4 have ptsd w/2-3 month wait for any help
over 53,000 are wounded
1 doc for every 500 patients
male vets have twice unemployment rate
32% are Natl Guards serving at war
95% are having problems getting pay
many are sent back w/depression and mental disorders
over 200 have committed suicide
72% divorce rate for returning
65 billion dollars in benefits over next 5 years w/be required

Nothing about this mentioned in SOTU or by candidates.

The war is being fought here in the hearts and minds of those returning!!!

[LSK]

35. Sarandon speaking about how the Veterans are getting screwed

[LSK]

40. Robbins: "Karl Rove has been Subpoenaed"

[halobeam]

41. KARL ROVE GOT HIS SUBPOENA

[JohnnyLib2]

Wonderful moment.

history books.

[halobeam]

85. Oh yeah and Robbins did great.

[cyberpj]

42. Tim Robbins is up - wants impeachment ON THE TABLE. Cheers! nt

[shireen]

46. soldier being deployed after TWO weeks training, instead of 12???!!!

:wtf:

[cyberpj]

48. I'd say it's unbelievable - but sadly, it is believable. nt

[proud patriot]

66. OMG that pisses me off

:grr:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

43. Tim Robbins...I don't know what you read in the papers tomorrow, but there are people here as far as

the eye can see!!!!

[seabeyond]

52. robbins putting htis out just challenged and called media to be honest

in their description of this rally. good for him.

[bdamomma]

103. it was just reported on C Span Several Thousand.

and it will be repeated later in the afternoon.

[Bluerthanblue]

44. CARL ROVE has been subpoenaed!!

[dogday]

50. But he had nothing to do with the leak

right????? :sarcasm:

[rodeodance]

54. but it is questionalbe whether or not he will will be called to testify

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

47. A soldier is being sent to Iraq with 2 weeks training. Is Impeachment still off the table??? eom

Tim Robbins just said that.

[rodeodance]

49. Jane Fonda did good, yet I imagine it is what the RW will focus on this

week.

[halobeam]

51. Crowd shouting "IMPEACH BUSH!"

[3121guitarist]

53. who sponsored this march?

Hope it wasn't answer, I hate them.

[spooky3]

56. United for Peace and Justice

is involved (heard it on NPR yesterday).

[LSK]

57. United for Peace, ANSWER was not invited

They did it right this time.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

63. Yes, they did. ANSWER had every fringe group spouting their own causes which totally diluted the

purpose of the rally.
I mentioned in another thread that I believe ANSWER is an Agent Provocateur.

[seabeyond]

77. yes. that one a while back ensured all these people now speaking, could NOT

be at the answer rally back when. pissed me off a tad as so many du'ers faulted those that didnt particpate in that rally

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

100. you may want to take that hate somewhere else. n/t

MKJ

[cyberpj]

55. Tim Robbins bringing attn to Blackwater, mercenaries and war profiteers.

And bush talking to God.

[cyberpj]

Let's not forget THOU SHALT NOT KILL (referring to Bush and God) nt

[BuyingThyme]

60. He's doing particularly well.

:applause:

[Alamom]

64. I thouught his speech was incredible. n/t

[GenDem]

58. "Thou shalt not kill" -- POWERFUL

[cyberpj]

59. Now starts the March. nt

[cyberpj]

62. Sean,Tim,Susan,Jane and Jesse Jackson w/lead the march. nt

[mzmolly]

61. Tim Robbins lost credibility with me when he worked against Gore.

I find it difficult to take his "concern" over Bush's policies very seriously now - sorry. Flame on.

[LSK]

67. people make mistakes and work to make it right

[mzmolly]

75. True, but I can't help but think about the "Gore = Bush on foreign policy"

mantra.

That said, Hilary speaking is also questionable IMHO.

[LSK]

87. Everything Bush campaigned in 2000 was a lie

He was against "Nation Building" at the time.

[mzmolly]

92. Indeed, and some of us knew that.

I for at time after he was (s)elected thought "perhaps he won't be thaaat bad?" Man was I wrong.

[shireen]

70. well, 2000 was a different time ...

Nader was in the race. Even Thom Hartmann voted for him.
But Gore in 2007 is not the same man we saw in 2000.

[mzmolly]

80. Gore in 07 is the same man, it just took some people 7 years to realize that.

;)

[shireen]

116. actually, it was probably those damn campaign handlers

that caused some of the problems. I've learned much more about Gore recently than I did in 2000.

If he runs again, he needs to dump the campaign handlers; he and Tipper are wonderful just the way they are, and campaign handlers should stay out of their way.

[MH1]

83. Gore didn't change. People just woke up to who he was.

Okay, to be fair, he may have amped up his rhetoric. But I don't believe he as changed significantly.

You may not have "seen" the same person in 2000, but there could be many reasons for that.

[seabeyond]

81. i could understand, but i clearly saw the error. a lot of people did that in 2000

i agree with the poster that says 2000 was a different time. i can forgive... not that i see a place for forgive or think it necessary...

[mzmolly]

86. I can forgive to, but his "is impeachment still off the table" rant ruffled my feathers a bit.

;) I also don't know if he's ever admitted his error, so perhaps I should withhold judgment?

[glitch]

117. I think he did admit his error, and even apologized a couple of years ago.

I'll try and find a link. I know I did forgive him, and I wouldn't have without an apology.

[helderheid]

65. I want AERIAL SHOTS!

[Alamom]

68. me too....I want to see all of those beautiful people. n/t

[halobeam]

74. I want aerial shots too!!

[CrazyOrangeCat]

69. Amen.

Splashed all over the media.

Ain't holdin' my breath . . .

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

71. They had some last year, so hopefully they will do it again today! Bless all of those

that were able to be there today!

[tyedyeto]

Do you know the march route? n/t

[LSK]

72. Rapper Bedouin not over the 2000 theft of the Presidency

[helderheid]

73. Neither am I!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

76. Beduoin bringing up 2000 stolen election and how people didn't fight against it. eom

[Wiley50]

78. I'd Bet If Someone At A Mike Told Everyone To Take Back The People's House, They Would

and there would be plenty of them to do it too.

[helderheid]

82. MOSH!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XHH2ew6tVzA

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

79. I am so kicking myself right now that I'm not there...

Love the sign they just showed "Just Poop"!!!!

I wonder if the "Billionaires for Bush" are there today. They cracked me up in September 2005...

[Bobbie Jo]

84. Absolutely Beautiful!

:kick:

[EstimatedProphet]

88. That's a big crowd! Must be over 500 people!

:)

[rodeodance]

89. see this thread also.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=56545&mesg_id=56545

[seabeyond]

94. ya BUT i gotta say. op says cnn said. we dont know. all signs point

cnn has said it is going to be muc larger than a couple dozen. i do like to be fair

[partylessinOhio]

90. Very few crowd shots online:

[rodeodance]

91. another thread her also:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=54735&mesg_id=54735

[shireen]

93. any websites streaming the march?

I think they're going to switch to Hillary soon. Is there another source of video for the march?

[rodeodance]

95. soem slides here:

http://news.yahoo.com/;_ylt=AnpaM.ziEU.VyQFhzzzyiReMwfIE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2NWJlcmlsBHNlYwN0bg--

Tens of thousands in D.C. protest war
AP - 34 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Protesters energized by fresh congressional skepticism about the Iraq war demanded a withdrawal of U.S. troops in a demonstration Saturday that drew tens of thousands and brought Jane Fonda back to the streets.

* Slideshow: Anti-War Protests
* Full Coverage: Iraq

[partylessinOhio]

96. Sean Penn and Jane Fonda:

[lyonn]

97. Why the hell is C-span going to switch to Hillary in Iowa?

Why isn't she in D.C. doing the right thing?

Edit: Protesting

[Bobbie Jo]

99. Ok...where's the freeper protest?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Protesting the protest, that is.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

101. OMG, estimates of "several thousand" from C-Span..

Drink the Kool-Aid much..

[helderheid]

102. Only slightly more honest than CNN's "dozens"

:wtf:

[madame defarge]

104. Best protest sign...

Rapture is not an exit strategy

[bdamomma]

110. That is pretty good, now for the spin from our fair media

:puke: :puke:
to how many numbers of people that were there, I am waiting for a report a truthful one from the DU'ERs who are there. God Bless Them!!!!!:patriot: :patriot:

[glitch]

118. Oh that is just perfect! Thanks for posting, I missed it. nt

[ralps]

106. LOL C_Span says estimates of several thousand!

:rofl: :rofl: :woohoo: :applause: Many more than several thousand I would guess!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

108. And they just stopped coverage to turn it over to a Hillary rally in Iowa........

[LSK]

CSPAN to re-air the rally later this afternoon

[rodeodance]

109. CSM: US senators feel weight of Iraq vote

USA > Domestic Politics

from the January 26, 2007 edition
(Photograph)
DEMOCRATS: (left to right) Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware; Sen. Barabara Boxer of California; Sen. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin; and Sen. Jim Webb of Virginia.
(from left to right) REUTERS; AP; AP; REUTERS

US senators feel weight of Iraq vote
The Democratic-controlled Congress must decide if resolutions opposing Bush's war strategy will be stern ... or bipartisan.

By Gail Russell Chaddock | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON - Back in 1971, Vietnam veteran John Kerry gave a face to the antiwar movement with a single question in televised testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee: "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

This week, Senator Kerry reprised the argument before the same panel: "How many of you here at this table believe what's happening is a mistake today?" he asked, as the Foreign Relations Committee took the first congressional step opposing the strategy in Iraq since lawmakers authorized the use of force in 2002.
In the Monitor
Friday, 01/26/07
............
In the end, 12 senators – all the Democrats on the panel plus one Republican, Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska – backed a non-binding resolution opposing President Bush's "new way forward" in Iraq. The vote came 16 hours after Mr. Bush appealed to lawmakers, in his State of the Union address, to give his plan to add 21,500 US troops to the forces fighting in Iraq "a chance to work."

As the resolution moves to the full Senate next week, it's clear that deep disagreements exist within each party over how best to express doubts about the Iraq war. The result is a vivid – and very public – grappling over the terms of their disagreement.

At issue is whether the new Democrat-controlled Congress should aim for the strongest resolution opposing the troop buildup, or the one most likely to draw the largest bipartisan vote.
....

...........
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0126/p01s02-uspo.html

[madame defarge]

111. LIVE WEBCAM from 3rd & Constitution

http://www.trafficland.com/findacamera/findacamera.php?city=WAS&maptype=flat&map=100#

What a beautiful crowd!!!

[Joanne98]

112. YES!

[BuyingThyme]

114. Wow! Great link.

[bdamomma]

119. yea, great webcam but this is how they keep track of us???

[rumpel]

120. Great link, thanks

C-Span's "several thousand my $%#....

[rodeodance]

113. ......House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is the main political target.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0126/p01s01-ussc.html?s=itm

From the January 26, 2007 edition

Antiwar protesters target Congress
Organizers expect more than 300,000 people to converge in Washington this weekend seeking more than resolutions.
By Brad Knickerbocker | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

......House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is the main political target. War protesters want something tougher than nonbinding resolutions opposing the "surge" in additional US forces. Some want hearings on the controversial basis for the war itself, perhaps leading to the impeachment of President Bush.

It's not just the nation's capital, where busloads of people from at least 30 states are headed to make their voices heard.

Around the country, lawmakers' district offices are feeling the heat as well through Quakers' peaceful "vigils" and the occasional act of civil disobedience. In one recent case, the Episcopal bishop of northern California was arrested for blocking the door of the federal office building in San Francisco. And marches and rallies are planned in other cities, including Orlando, Fla., Seattle, San Diego, and Newark, N.J.

Major organizations are working to ensure that events do not include fringe groups and speakers, such as anarchists or socialists. Until recently, "people on the far left got control of the agenda and it became marginalized, even though the sentiment in the country increasingly became antiwar," says one organizer, who wished to remain anonymous. These days, such events feature labor union members, environmentalists, and especially active duty military people, says this source.

[Alamom]

115. Has anyone heard an unbiased estimate of how many are there?

[rumpel]

121. from that webcam link

a referral to

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/27/AR2007012700629.html?nav=rss_email/components

tens of thousands

[Crabby Appleton]

122. WaPo has "Tens of Thousands"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/27/AR2007012700629.html

Tens of thousands of demonstrators from across the country converged on the Mall in Washington today to urge the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq as President Bush is proposing to send more troops in an effort to stabilize the country.

The event, organized by the group United for Peace and Justice, appeared to draw fewer than the 100,000 people that authorities had said might come. It began with a rally at 11 a.m. and was followed by a march around the Capitol.

...

[LeftishBrit]

124. Great - I hope the politicians LISTEN!!!