Yesterday Elizabeth Edwards was on the View -- and it was her son's 9th birthday

[karynnj]

This is the first op, I have posted on the Edwards' mess. As a mother, I am stunned by this - especially as she knows she may miss many birthdays in his life. She has more control over her schedule than most of us have and given the horrendous year that whole family has had, I am genuinely shocked that she did this.

"She didn't mention her own children - Cate, Emma Claire and Jack. (Today, by the way, is Jack Edwards's birthday. He is 9.)"
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2009/05/_elizabeth_edwards_appearance.html?hpid=sec-politics

I was stunned enough to verify that The View appearance was on May 19th and apparently from NYC. (http://www.theview.tv/recap/tuesday-may-19-2009) and at least it does appear (from at least one internet site) that this is Jack's birthday.

It seems extremely sad, that after the trauma of the last several years - from the cancer as much as their lives being turned upside down, that this little boy either spent his birthday in a NYC hotel or without his mom in NC.

Updated with the entire May 19th schedule:
May 19, 2009: ABC-TV The View
MSNBC Countdown with Keith Olberman
NPR “The Takeaway” interview
Fox Radio Network “Alan Colmes Show” interview
WNYC-AM/FM (NPR) “Leonard Lopate Show” interview

http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/elizabethedwards/tour/

[Faygo Kid]

1. Point well taken. They need to go away and live their lives.

Elizabeth is obviously pissed and obsessed. They are both tiresome at this point. I wish them all the best, but just go away.

[A HERETIC I AM]

2. Absolutely. Because taping an 8 minute segment takes 12 hours.

Everyone knows this.

How do you know the kid wasn't in the Green Room?

[Dorian Gray]

24. Exactly

Spending your birthday in NYC (if he was there with his mother) could be a lot of fun!

We don't know.

[karynnj]

27. As I said, he was either in NYC, not at home with friends, or in NC without his mom

Do you think that EE has taken the kids on this entire tour - putting them in the middle of the publicity in each place. Not to mention, unless they are still home schooled - even though there was no campaign this school year, he is in school.

[Lorien]

110. To be fair, it does take an hour or two

anyone who has done television knows that hair, makeup and audio wiring take at least an hour for most programs.

[ShortnFiery]

3. Sadly, it can be summed up with one word:

Narcissism

[2Nurselady]

19. I Disagree

I agree with what Elizabeth Edwards is doing. What is wrong with a person, woman or man, writing a book and then promoting that book? Answer: Nothing. Because she is female and a mother, she should not write a book and promote that book? That is absurd. Elizabeth Edwards is finding her own healing. Bless her for that. She has the right. She has been through so much. Read her book and you can see what her life has been like. And, she's a good person in spite of the loss of her father, the loss of her son, her terminal cancer diagnosis and chemo treatments, and her husband's very public affair.

What do you say, for the sake of equality, about a man who stays away from his family for weeks to months promoting himself, running for elected office, doing the talk show circuit, appearing in debates, cheating on his wife and family, possibly impregnating a woman other than his own wife, and then getting on the air to promote himself some more and make excuses for his behavior such as his wife's cancer was "in remission" when he repeatedly had sex with another woman? And, what do you say about the fact that this man's children saw pictures of their father and the other woman with the alleged "love child" on the cover of magazines, newspapers, and tabloids?

[Adelante]

66. Oh, please, she was a full partner in his staying away from his family

He is responsible for his personal betrayal of his wife, but they both ran for the presidency. And they both covered up his extramarital affair when it mattered. I'd love to see an interview where Elizabeth Edwards talks about how they both deceived the American voting public and betrayed the Democratic Party. That's the one I'm waiting for.

[Morning Dew]

77. On Larry King she said that he told her it was a one off.

Just going from memory here - He told her right after he announced his Presidential bid and that it was a one time deal. They decided that if the other woman hadn't busted him by then, she probably wouldn't so they continued with the campaign. She didn't know it was an ongoing affair until much later and after his campaign had ended.

Anyone remember it differenty? I imagine there's a transcript out there.

[Adelante]

83. The affair was out in the open by October 2007, even if unadmitted

And Rielle Hunter was living in Chapel Hill soon after. I can accept Elizabeth may have believed him in December 2006 that it was a one-time affair, I know what she says. But I find it hard to believe the campaign was covering this scandal up between October 2007 and the end of January 2008 and she knew nothing about it. But even if it were a one night stand, I don't see it changes the scandal hanging over that campaign with its inherent danger to the election, and once her cancer was diagnosed as recurring, she had the perfect out. She just didn't take it. I don't care about their marital problems except as they relate to the politics.

[mmonk]

4. Do you know what his day consisted of or if they were planning

an event on a particular day?

[cali]

5. in all fairness, who says she wasn't home in time to greet her

son upon his return from school? The View is taped from 11 to 12. She could have hopped right on a plane to NC and been home either in time to greet him as came home from school, or shortly thereafter. For all we know, they had a birthday dinner together as a family.

Seems like kind of mean spirited carping to me.

[karynnj]

32. Good point - except here is the entire schedule

May 19, 2009: ABC-TV The View
MSNBC Countdown with Keith Olberman
NPR “The Takeaway” interview
Fox Radio Network “Alan Colmes Show” interview
WNYC-AM/FM (NPR) “Leonard Lopate Show” interview

http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/elizabethedwards/tour/

[cali]

34. OK, but still, so what? I can remember birthdays where my parents

weren't there, so we just celebrated my birthday on another agreed upon day. it's really petty to attack her over this.

[elleng]

6. Do we know where Jack was?

We shouldn't assume too much, imo.

[ShortnFiery]

16. Yeah, maybe that other stellar mom, Sarah Palin, was babysitting for her?

:crazy:

[cali]

21. what a petty nasty little comment.

ugh. reminds me of your Hillary comment last year that had you slinking off in shame.

[ShortnFiery]

40. Yes, it was on the edge. However, in fairness, I wish EE would just kindly go away.

She's making herself look bad. Perhaps it's in whispers but I'm not the only person to THINK that a woman with not all that much time on this earth should be trying to do something more than re-establishing the Edward's legacy.

She's making rich people look bad by her obsession with the media. :shrug:

[cali]

42. I agree that it would be better if she cut the publicity

stuff, but that doesn't make her akin to Palin.

[ShortnFiery]

44. Yes, and you are right Cali, I was Nasty to compare her to Sarah Palin - she is not a bad person

just painfully living out her DRAMA on national TV. I'm truly sorry for EE is a good mom, just on the wrong path. :(

[cali]

48. thanks. people driven by pain- and heaven knows she has enough of it

often make bad choices. One doesn't have to support those choices but one can understand where that person is coming from. I can't imagine going through what she's going through.

[earth mom]

76. If your name was being dragged through the mud you would defend it too.

Elizabeth has every right to take the opportunity to tell her side of the story and set the record straight.

I swear this shit here on DU is getting really OLD.

Is this freeperville or what? :eyes:

[MicaelS]

85. The attempts by some here to nominate EE for sainthood

Are what's old. She LIED to the American people during THEIR run for the nomination. She was complicit in the LIES. I'm sorry she has cancer, she lost her son and was deceived by her husband, but she was an enabler to his LIES to all of us. Both of them could have cost the Democratic Party the White House.

[earth mom]

101. News flash for ya-NO politician is a saint-NOT even Obama. However, EE is NOT a politician.

So if Elizabeth Edwards wants to defend herself-she has every right to-especially when she is smeared by democrats like you who say they hold the party to such high esteem yet at the same time smear dems like Elizabeth.

Talk about being a hypocrite. :eyes:

[2Nurselady]

23. And...Where was that "stellar dad?" Should she have worn a Burkha?

What about it? What about the "stellar dad" in the situation? Or, does it all come down to the woman? Is it her breasts and vagina that require her not to do something she would like to do - such as writing a book and promoting that book? Maybe it would have been more palatable for some if she had been wearing a burkha.

[karynnj]

28. No one is defending the despicable dad

[Maru Kitteh]

80. You miss the point. She is being singled out for the "bad parent" label because she has a vagina

and it's her kids birthday.

She's a MOM - so she's not supposed to be out promoting her work, engaging in vocational activities. She's supposed to be at home playing Betty Fucking Crocker like a good and proper vagina-having person.

Who gets all judgmental and starts an OP when a man doesn't drop everything and play host to his child's party. Nobody.

[elleng]

29. Cute

NOT.

[cali]

31. it's hateful

crap directed at a woman who is dying of cancer and whatever her mistakes may be, comparing her to Palin in a roundabout manner, is just loathsome.

[ShortnFiery]

43. Oh stop with the hyperbole which you seemingly live for. Yes, it's tragic and I don't dislike her

but she's making herself look bad by this continuing obsession.

Would you rather I be hypocritical? We both know that I didn't care much for EE since she said to the media that "she didn't think the country was ready to elect a black man."

She too, has been quite outspoken.

I apologize for the Sarah Palin comment that was clearly over the line.

However, EE has NOT been considerate of others in her remarks.

How do you think the parent of "the other woman" think of EE?

I would venture they would not be thrilled with her "media makeover" any more than myself?

[cali]

45. sorry, threre's no hyperbole involved in noting that your comment was hateful

[ShortnFiery]

47. OK, but I regret it ... as I sometimes do my outspoken nature ... so let's not stir up anymore dust?

:-) :hi:

[cali]

51. no problem, it's forgotten. n/t

[Pool Hall Ace]

67. EE said that the country was not ready to elect a black man?

She really said that?

I am sorry about what she is going through, but if she really said that, my opinion of her just plummeted. :(

[Cha]

94. I missed that too. Oh,

wow..was that a misfire.

[jbnow]

107. Many people thought that. When Hillary said "He can't win"

to Richardson that was probably about race. Not their own prejudice but the belief that "America isn't ready". A lot of Democrats said that during the primaries, a lot of people here. Elizabeth being from the south probably had ore reason to admit it.

Turns out they were wrong. Obama could win and he won.
(If you can call it winning. What a crummy time to win that "prize". Still I think he is glad to be there at a time we need so much)

[depakid]

72. "...she's making herself look bad by this continuing obsession."

continuing public obsession.

It strikes some as attention seeking- and in the present context, it's not something that most people can relate to seeking attention for.

[countingbluecars]

7. Gee, how many mothers

go to work on their child's birthday?

[ShortnFiery]

12. Yeah, but if I was battling inoperable cancer and had the millions EE did,

I sure as shit wouldn't be wasting those *precious remaining moments* settling the score with the press and the so called "evil other woman."

Sorry, but her behaviors are nothing less than abhorrent.

Hell, put me in her place and I'd kick that cheating JE out of the new mansion, hire a crack divorce lawyer, and spend the little time I had left nurturing the two youngest children, TO INCLUDE, their financially sound future.

But no, EE must DEMAND center stage for No 1.

It's just *wrong* on so many levels.

Perfect Politician's Wife on Tour.

That Cross must get mighty heavy? :(

Tragic.

[countingbluecars]

20. It's up to her how she

spends the remaining days of her life. Who the hell are you or anyone else to decide what is right for her or her children? If going on tour makes her feel vital and alive, good for her. I'm sure she can do a few interviews and nurture her children. In case you haven't noticed, women, even sick ones, are strong and capable.

[ShortnFiery]

50. She's all over my TV screen. She's demanding her 15 minutes of fame, to include trashing

another, less celebrity woman. Her situation is tragic, but she's not PURE in this real life "soap opera."

[countingbluecars]

56. Her life, her choice. n/t

[marshall]

63. And yet she says she wants it to all "go away"

It won't do that until you stop talking about it.

[saracat]

98. Wow. The "other non celeb women" deserves it.

Manipulative goldiggers shouldn't be treated with any respect. That little piece of vermin had some choice things to say about EE when she was shagging her hubby. No doubt some think she is entitled to speak but not EE.I really respect Elizabeth and always will.

[2Nurselady]

55. Thank you!

Well said, countingbluecars

[countingbluecars]

60. Welcome to DU

2Nurselady!

[jbnow]

108. You'd kick him out? That's fine but I'd be slow to judge

in any marriage and especially her situation. You might want him out but you have those two little kids and likely a shortened life span. You'd want all the continuity you could for those kids. Their trauma of divorce and then her death would be unbearable to think of for them.
Seems for their sake you'd want to try to rebuild the friendship at least so that the kids have him to turn to when she is gone without them feeling they are betraying her by loving him.

So you can blithely say kick him out...but I can't. The situation would give me pause.

That doesn't affect the whole presidential run thing but I think we'd best stay out of her personal decisions. This book was planned before his affair...but of course it had to then be in the book if she was going to write it. Why should his affair silence her voice? I'm sure the book has so much more than his damn cheating...just it was what many interviewers asked about.

[karynnj]

38. That is completely different

They are still there before and after work. In addition, as I said, she has control over her schedule.

[ShortnFiery]

53. "she has control over her schedule"

Because she's filthy rich along with hubby, and are free to TRASH the other woman who is NOT so "filthy rich."

[Maru Kitteh]

81. Gee. That sounds just like seething jealousy.

That dipwad space-cadet JE knocked up is no victim here. She's getting less hell than she deserves. Under NC family law, EE could sue her ever-loving ass off. If she didn't want to face these kinds of consequences she shouldn't have kept her legs shut. Same goes for John and his zipper.

[SoCalDem]

52. Wealthy women have the luxury of being able to alter their schedules

Surely they could have postponed the press-gasms if she had told them why..

Book tours always have an odor of hyperbolic desperation to them.. It must be awful for everyone involved..

I hope her "tour" ends soon, and she can spend time with her kids while she feels well enough.. The bad times "at the end" are no substitute for the good times wasted on outsiders..

[Missy Vixen]

73. You know what?

SoCalDem, I've enjoyed your comments over the years, but this is just beyond unbelievable.

>Book tours always have an odor of hyperbolic desperation to them.. It must be awful for everyone involved..<

Oh, really? So, the book someone else worked on for oh, say at least a year, should languish and die because you think it's too "desperate" to actually encourage people to buy one's work. If there was so much "hyperbolic desperation" involved, why does the publishing industry continue to ask authors to tour supporting their books? Tours drive sales. Tours also get people talking about the book(s) involved. I'm glad Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert invite authors on their programs; I've bought some of the books featured because the comments were intriguing.

I'm an author. I know many other authors. Typically, the only people asked to go on a tour these days are multiple New York Times bestsellers; the arrangements are made even before the book hits the shelves.

It is difficult (some would say agonizing!) to write a book. The publishing industry will eat anyone without serious drive and determination alive. It's unfortunate that some here are so desperate to smear Elizabeth Edwards that they will paint all authors with the same broad brush.

[SoCalDem]

100. Not "smearing" anyone.. just an observation about how the poor authors are schlepped on EVERY

show, basically having to say the same stuff over and over, and how the "window" seems so small..a do-or-die proposition.. I guess the book-buying public must be a fickle bunch..

It's the same thing when a movie opens..after a few appearances, the people involved seem so eager to have it all end, so they can go back to their lives..

I feel sorry for Mrs. Edwards, and I hope she hangs in there for a very long time, but that said, I also hope she spends time with her kids now..while she still feels relatively well.. I heard her recently say that her young daughter asked for a trip with her, and she was reluctant because of her health..To a child, a turn-down like that, coupled with a subsequent book-tour , could be misinterpreted..

Ultimately, the choices are all hers..

to stay or not to stay with John..

to write a book or not to ( people return advances all the time, and especially when it's a health issue, I'm sure publishers would understand)

to spend all her time with her kids, or not to

I watch the shows with authors too, but usually after I've seen them once, I tune them out, since they say the same thing over and over, and by the 3rd or 4th time, they probably wish they were anywhere else..

I know it must take almost superhuman powers to actually write a book that someone wants to publish, and I congratulate anyone able to do it, but we also have to admit that the "celeb"/"tell-all" book has gone a bit overboard these days.. I guess there is a market for that sort of thing, but there sure seems to be a lot more of them now ..

I guess I'm just uncomfortable with the "spill-your-guts" stuff, beause the other living people who are involved get dragged into it...some through no fault of their own .

The jury's out of the kids, because the older daughter is the only one who is dealing with all this on an adult level, but "very-public" parents have been the bane of many a child, as they mature.

[lostnfound]

8. There's flights..maybe he was in school..maybe they celebrated yesterday..

you can't judge based on the timing of the show. For all we know he might have been backstage during taping.. More likely they celebrated on the weekend and he is in school anyway. Some kids are booked so heavy they go from school to soccer game etc. and may not even have a lot of time to spare on their actual birthday.

[JBear]

9. It seems to me...

that everyone needs to step back and quit worrying about why people make the decisions they do. It doesn't matter what someone does, there will always be a critic. Personal decisions are just that - Personal! I hear this all the time from my family and friends when someone does something that they don't fully understand.

Just let it be...

:bounce:

[ShortnFiery]

14. Hey, she writes a book and begs TV interviews, she deserves the negative scrutiny.

Go take care of your youngest children. Be with them every moment to help say "good-bye."

Send Pictures but STOP the CIRCUS. :crazy:

:shrug:

[connecticut yankee]

10. At this point

I'm sick of hearing about the Edwards. I was an early supporter of his, and believed in him. I was totally sickened by the revelation about his mistress.

I loved Elizabeth, and was moved by her courage and dedication.

I just read that Rielle Hunter is suing John for one-fourth of his "estate" for the baby.

This is turning into the plot of a very bad movie.

I wish these people would just go away.

[jbnow]

109. I wish she would wait to sue...he should be giving her money but

suing does more to hurt Elizabeth, getting it back in the spotlight.
"She wants "one-fourth of his "estate" for the baby?" You mean she wants the baby in his will? I don't know the state law...but can someone demand that. People of sound mind can leave to whoever they want although a spouse has rights? Kids don't. Or if she means she wants money now...again not knowing state law but child support isn't generally a % of one's estate.
Strange.

[Tanuki]

11. Just because the segment "aired" that day doesn't mean it was taped that day.

The View often pre-tapes segments.

[bigscott]

13. when I was 9

I would have LOVED to go into the City with my mom for the day. Take in a show, ballgame, nice restaurant. who is to say he was not having a ball with his mom?

[karynnj]

61. Between 5 tv appearances??

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

18. It was live.

[Adelante]

15. What she does in her family life, meh

What she did in her public life when collaborating with her husband to scam the American voter and gamble with the Democratic win in 2008 is what I care about.

[peace13]

49. I agree. She put the country in peril when she tried to lie his *ss into the WH.

Think what a mess we would have been in. Congress up his behind with investigations about the lies and the use of his campaign funds on his mistress. At any rate they totally threw the election between Hill and Obama. Who knows how it would have worked out. Maybe Hill would have won. Maybe she would have lost bigger and we could have been spared the theatrics at the end of the primary season that cost us valuable time and money fighting Grandpa. The Edwards do owe the American people an explanation but it's not about where his dirty little penis has been!

[Stuckinthebush]

17. Come on now...

this is silly.

[Captain Hilts]

22. Boy, is this lame. nt

[cali]

26. horribly lame.

this is an attack with no justification. it's just nasty.

[Captain Hilts]

33. I'm just not going to judge how someone else spends one day vis a vis their kids. nt

[peace frog]

41. You guys stop making sense!

You're spoiling all the fun of slamming a woman battling cancer who is publically promoting her new book and whose husband was a philandering cad. :eyes:

[abluelady]

25. I'm A Mother, Too

And I saw Elizabeth Edwards yesterday on the View. She was asked this same question--not particularly about the kid's birthday, but being away from them. I listened to her answer and wished I was the type of woman she is.

She explained that she could live one year or ten years--let's face it--that could be all of us. She then went on and talked about the legacy she wants to leave her children. How many of us will have left a legacy when we're dead. I am sure her children will be very proud of the mom she was. Being a mom is wonderful, but I would like to be able to give more to the world that has given me so much and I would like my children to do the same. Teaching our children by example seems to me the best thing we could all do.

[2Nurselady]

30. Well Said, abluelady

Nicely said.

[ShortnFiery]

54. Yes, it's wonderful when "the privileged" get to write their own legacies before they ...

leave us. Sorry, but I can't even come close to ADORING "The Edwards' Dynasty" that EE is presently trying to sell. :thumbsdown:

[Maru Kitteh]

82. There you go with the money thing again. Jealousy is an ugly emotion.

[LaurenG]

35. Do you have way too much time on your hands?

I try really hard not to go nuts but lately I'm having a hard time with ALL the judgmental harping going on.

Elizabeth Edwards life is not for us to judge, how she spends her time is her business.


How many Gladys Kravitz's do we need around here? :(

[shimmergal]

99. Thanks, LaurenG!

Don't judge or tell EE what she shouldn't do, unless you've walked a mile in her shoes.

The truth is, no one knows how they'd react to multiple hits like she's taken, until they happen to YOU. And I wouldn't wish that on anybody here.

All those posts from women about how THEY'D leave the SOB can best be read as coded messages to the poster's spouse: "Don't you dare do that to me!" Good enough. But Elizabeth has the right to live her own life; she doesn't need our advice on how to do it.

[Triana]

36. I think you're assuming too much and criticizing her unnecessarily

You know zero facts about where her son is and it's really not significant except to her and her son. Furthermore, after what she's been through, (I think) she is fully justified in both writing a book and promoting it without people criticizing her every move and applying negative motives to them - motives that may NOT be hers -- and then criticizing her for them. She's been through enough. Why abuse her further like this? What's in it for you?

[karynnj]

46. There is, of course, nothing in it for me

and it was simply an opinion. I am not alone in finding this tour sad. I said absolutely nothing about motives - so I have no idea where you are coming from. I also didn't say it was wrong to write or promote a book.

Not to mention - you have questioned motives and ridiculed public people as well - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2467107#2468433

If you can denigrate Pelosi, certainly others can question Edwards.

[deaniac21]

37. I think Jack was spending his birthday with the Breck girl.

[cali]

39. I think your nasty comment sucks

and as most people here know, I'm not JE fan. But those of you taking out your dislike of him on a small child, disgust me.

[Fleshdancer]

57. I don't know what to say to this

Seriously? :wtf:

[madmom]

58. WOW, we sure are quick to condemn people with out all the facts aren't we. This is

such a petty thing. We do things like this with our kids. We agree to have the celebration like on a week end when all the family and friends can be there. How dumb! Keep looking though, I'm sure you'll find something else to rag on her about.

[Name removed]

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[laureloak]

62. Who are you to judge what EE does?

Really, are you perfect? Do you have a window into the Edwards' private lives? How do you know what arrangements she made with her family? That may very well have been Jack's best birthday ever for all you know.

[Adelante]

64. Well, I'm going to stick up for karynnj

As I posted above, I don't share her opinion on this child birthday matter, to which she has taken a personal offense. BUT those who are attacking her, please remember she is not a DUer who lays out emotional opinion often, if ever, but takes a very rational stance on a wide variety of political issues, argues her points very constructively and can back everything she says up with respectable sources. She contributes a good deal to the overall tenor of political discussion on DU. Like I said, I don't agree on this one thing, but really, folks, it's not murder.

[karynnj]

91. Thank you

I likely should not have posted this - it was my immediate personal response. I realize though that I do not know these kids. It just seemed to me that this has to have been a very traumatic year for them - as well as their parents. I think that everything that has happened to Elizabeth would be very hard for anyone to bear - Elizabeth is human like anyone else is - and I really don't get why she is doing what she is doing.

[woo me with science]

65. Oh, for pete's sake.

I'm no EE defender, given her decision to let her husband carry on this charade with voters, but this post is just stupid.

You don't know how they celebrated his birthday. Often families schedule birthday celebrations for convenience and so others can attend....Often birthday celebrations don't even take place on the birthday itself.

How dare you judge her mothering based on YOUR assumptions about what this TV appearance means? Sheesh.

[ecstatic]

68. She was almost incoherent too

I could barely understand what she was saying. The ladies ripped into her before she even came on stage.

[cornermouse]

69. I guess you didn't mean this after all...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=257x12305

karynnj
Fri Mar-20-09 09:11 PM
Original message
Kerry spoke to Elizabeth Edwards by phone before his talk in NC

Edited on Fri Mar-20-09 09:18 PM by karynnj
(If this is not an appropriate post or it annoys anyone - PM me and I'll ask the mods to delete. The subject line is the entire Edwards related content, but I thought people here would want to know that at least one of her past colleagues still is in touch - as she likely needs the support and it is nice to know that she is not being ignored.)
http://www.newsobserver.com/264/story/1451038.html

Who gave your carte blanche to oversee how Elizabeth conducts her life?

[karynnj]

105. I see no contradiction - look at the date -

March 20th - before the last several weeks of EE and her sad publicity tour. I posted that then for exactly thr reasons given.

You might want to look at your own posts on people where over time your opinions changed due to things they did -- even things that were reasnable - such as endorsing the candidate of their choice.

[Mass]

70. I am not sure it is a big deal. Nothing different from the last 6 years in any case.

I did not and will not watch it or any other appearances of her because the little bit I have read in the media makes me want to puke. But, otherwise, it's their life. They can choose to live it the way they want, and they choose to live it this way since the beginning.

[dysfunctional press]

71. why would a birthday trip to new york and staying in a hotel be a bad thing for a 9-year old?

seems to me that it might be a pretty memorable and fun birthday...:shrug:

certainly A LOT better than being in north carolina.

[Missy Vixen]

74. Well, she's obviously an unfit mother, isn't she?

What's actually sad are those who have so little to do with their time or their lives that they would actually look up Elizabeth Edwards' schedule to bitch about it.

Perhaps the Edwardses choose to celebrate birthdays on the weekends. Perhaps Jack was with his mother yesterday. We have no idea. In the meantime, nobody's forcing you to watch any of the media coverage, or continue discussing it, are they?

[earth mom]

75. This OP is nothing more than a bullshit hit piece.

I'm really getting sick of this crap that everything that either John or Elizabeth Edwards do is enough to get the pack of rabid wild dogs upon them.

:puke:

Is this freeperville or what?! :wtf:

[Mass]

78. delete\nt

[LaydeeBug]

79. Maybe he was with his FATHER? nt

[book_worm]

84. before jumping conclusions--maybe Jack was with her in NY? and they had plans afterward

"The View" interview doesn't take that long.

[Morning Dew]

86. Your thread turned into a buch of attacks on another DUer... EE is a member of DU.

from the DU rules:

3. Civility: Treat other members with respect. Do not post personal attacks against other members of this discussion forum.

Here's a thread where she posted, so I can only assume she's still a member. Her profile is turned off, though.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2635416


edited for bad capitalization.

[Adelante]

96. Nope

She is a public figure. That rule does not apply to public figures whether they have signed up here or not.

[RB TexLa]

106. She left DU after a conservative talk show host was diagnosed with cancer

and there were some comments in very poor taste regarding the talk show host.

At least that is what I have seen posted before.

[J-Lo Biafra]

87. Dude, I want my 44 seconds back.

[rainbow4321]

88. For all you know the kid was in school all day

He is school age, after all. I've got two kids (who are now grown) and not once did they take the day off for us to celebrate all day. I can't imagine that I am alone in that choice, either.
At that age, we had a sleepover party on the weekend for their little friends and then had a family dinner night out on their actual birthday.
This sounds more like someone from her husband's camp stirring up shit.

[undeterred]

89. There are so many more important things to be outraged about.

[Oilwellian]

90. You really need to turn off your TV

Go outside, get some fresh air. It'll clear your head.

[Name removed]

92. Deleted message

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[TBF]

93. Wow, judge much? I'm sure you're perfect. n/t

[northernlights]

95. my mother never missed any of my birthdays

She made me vanilla cake, which I hated, because "chocolate might make me break out." (Never mind that my father brought home chocolate candy every night to bribe us with)

She made me ham, which she *knew* was my favorite. It was not. Never was. Never will be.

I don't remember a lot of my childhood. My eldest sister told me once she still remembered as a toddler being picked up by her hair and bounced off of walls. I think I've blanked a lot out, in defense.

But, my mother was home to piss on *every single effing* birthday, so I guess the physical and mental abuse is all ok. Although personally, I really wish she'd been out promoting a book. She might then have been a happier, less frustrated and less abusive bitch. And if not, at least she would have been abusing somebody other than me.

My father, on the other hand, phone me once, only time in my entire 55 years, on my birthday. He said, "Happy birthday, Pam."

Unfortunately, my name isn't Pam.

[Stevenmarc]

97. Jack before his 17'th birthday

Mom remember when a TV show was more important than my 9th birthday, well you see there's this sweet little Porsche.

[ColbertWatcher]

102. Um ...

When did she go for the interview? When he was in school? Or, did she take him out of school to tag along with her on her contractually obligated promotional tour for her book?

BTW, you'd be surprised how efficient these promotional tours can be especially in New York City.

They hire a driver and most of the places are pretty close to each other.

One other thing: is the kid still in school at this time of the year? Do they plan any kind of end-of-the-year events at his school? Would he be attending those in addition to his family's birthday party?

[liskddksil]

103. Elizabeth is fighting to make sure we have meaningful (public option) health reform

Maybe if all of you who are making baseless attacks on her, would do the same we would have some progress.

[nini]

104. .

never mind.. not worth the time and effort

[Lorien]

111. I haven't seen any of her appearances (I know that there have been many)

Are they just to promote a book, single payer healthcare, restore John Edwards image? What is the primary focus of her tour?