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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:49 PM
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What ever happened to the proposal by Spain to go after
members of the prior administration? Dropped like a stone or still active?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:51 PM
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1. Why don't we send Cheney there and see what happens?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:52 PM
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2. Still active (nt)
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:54 PM
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3. Spain Is Moving to Rein In Its Crusading Judges (May 20, 2009)
Congress Aims to Limit Human-Rights Inquiries, Such as the One Probing Torture Allegations at Guantanamo Bay

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"Spain is moving to rein in its investigative judges from trying alleged crimes against humanity from around the world, a role that has led to high-profile cases against the governments of the U.S., China, Israel and others.

Under pressure from irate foreign governments, Spain's Congress on Tuesday passed a resolution to limit the jurisdiction of the crusading judges to cases in which there is a clear Spanish connection -- and no home-country investigation already under way.

The six investigating judges of Spain's National Court, employing the so-called principle of universal jurisdiction, are now handling 13 cases involving events that took place in other countries, from Rwanda to Iraq.

One judge, Baltasar Garzón, is investigating allegations of U.S torture at Guantanamo Bay. Another is probing allegations that Israel committed war crimes in Gaza. A third has summoned Chinese government ministers to testify about the crackdown on protests in Tibet.

Under the resolution, cases taken up by the judges would have to involve a Spanish citizen or the accused would have to be on Spanish soil. The Spanish government now will introduce legislation, which the major parties in Congress have agreed to back. It wasn't clear whether the changes would apply to existing cases or only to future ones.

The move to limit the judges alarmed human-rights campaigners. "There will be more impunity," Hugo Relva, legal adviser for Amnesty International, said before Tuesday's vote."

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:09 PM
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5. We need to send letters to support those seeking to prosecute. I'm going to your link,
but want to get that thought out now.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 06:31 AM
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9. k&r'd
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:54 PM
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4. one link for you from today
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:20 PM
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6. Just read the link, the comments were interesting too. No matter
how this ends up, exposure of the misdeeds of those involved will be even more public. Think anyone in DC now will do anything? One can hope. Personally, after all we have gone through with the crooks and liars of the **** administration, I think we are due for world wide embarrassment.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:23 PM
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7. Perhaps Obama can appoint Cheney Ambassador to Spain
and send him over there and see what happens
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:26 PM
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8. I know you are joking but if that did happen Darth Cheney would have diplomatic immunity
and they could not prosecute him. So it's a bad idea.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 06:37 AM
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10. what amuses me about the support for Spanish investigations of
bushco, is that the people mast fulsome with their praise of Spain for this, would have a screaming fit if the U.S. did the same re another country. Now don't get me wrong, I rather support the Judge Garzon on this, but face it, kids, Spain is no better than the U.S. when it comes to investigating their own hideous Franco era record of torture and mass murder. They never investigtated or prosecuted.

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